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On HNIC they said CBJ believes they can get a first for foligno

Créé par: Bdawwwgy1
Équipe: 2020-21 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 10 avr. 2021
Publié: 11 avr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
People can say "no way they get a first"... but maybe they think they can get a first because negotiations have gone heavily their way?
Transactions
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CBJ
  1. Bonino, Nick (500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
MIN
  1. Foligno, Nick
Détails additionnels:
They pegged minny as being the most interested
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CBJ
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
FLA
  1. Bonino, Nick (1 800 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (CBJ)
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CBJ
MIN
    Should a team give up a 1st for Foligno? No.


    If a team would give up a first would minny probably make the most sense? Yes
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    11 avr. 2021 à 0 h 17
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    Why would Minny make the most sense? They're full of big bodies.
    11 avr. 2021 à 0 h 18
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    Why would Minny make the most sense? They're full of big bodies.


    Have a stacked prospect pool, 2 firsts, his brother plays there so they could likely extend him, probably needs a more leadership type of player.
    11 avr. 2021 à 0 h 21
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    Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
    Have a stacked prospect pool, 2 firsts, his brother plays there so they could likely extend him, probably needs a more leadership type of player.


    They should be looking to push for Eichel in the offseason, not trade for another grinder. Kaprizov is a superstar in the making but needs some help. They've never had a true 1C since their existence. I don't see it, but obviously there's gotta be something to it if it was mentioned on HNIC.
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    11 avr. 2021 à 0 h 26
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    Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
    Have a stacked prospect pool, 2 firsts, his brother plays there so they could likely extend him, probably needs a more leadership type of player.


    All of those things just say they have assets, not that they should use them. And the idea that they’d extend Nick Foligno is frankly absurd. It’s more connecting dots that have nothing connecting them.

    I will say Marek understands the bank accounts but not long term investment strategies when talking TDL.
    11 avr. 2021 à 0 h 28
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    They should be looking to push for Eichel in the offseason, not trade for another grinder. Kaprizov is a superstar in the making but needs some help. They've never had a true 1C since their existence. I don't see it, but obviously there's gotta be something to it if it was mentioned on HNIC.


    Minnesota can’t field a competitive team with Eichel under the cap. And as for the HNIC but, that was taken directly from Marek spit balling during 31 thoughts.
    11 avr. 2021 à 0 h 40
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    Quoting: jnowariak
    Minnesota can’t field a competitive team with Eichel under the cap. And as for the HNIC but, that was taken directly from Marek spit balling during 31 thoughts.


    They certainly can. Can you think of a time MIN had two elite offensive talents that use speed and skill on the rush? Gaborik is the only one coming to mind for me. Fiala Boldy and two 1sts should be pretty close.
    11 avr. 2021 à 0 h 47
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    They certainly can. Can you think of a time MIN had two elite offensive talents that use speed and skill on the rush? Gaborik is the only one coming to mind for me. Fiala Boldy and two 1sts should be pretty close.


    Let’s put it this way. Eichel and Kaprizov eat 20 mil. Zuccarello/Parise/Suter eat 20 mil, Brodin/Spurgeon/Ek/Talbot eat another 20. That means we need to fill 2 top 6 wings and a top 4 D along with signing 9 other players on the remaining 20 mil. And that assumes you trade Dumba. That’s Canucks level mismanagement.
    11 avr. 2021 à 0 h 49
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    Quoting: jnowariak
    Let’s put it this way. Eichel and Kaprizov eat 20 mil. Zuccarello/Parise/Suter eat 20 mil, Brodin/Spurgeon/Ek/Talbot eat another 20. That means we need to fill 2 top 6 wings and a top 4 D along with signing 9 other players on the remaining 20 mil. And that assumes you trade Dumba. That’s Canucks level mismanagement.


    I'd be shocked if Kaprizov gets $10M. Panarin got $6Mx2 in CHI. First year RFAs don't have many options for negotiations.
    11 avr. 2021 à 0 h 58
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    Yikes, good for CBJ if they get a first from some team though.
    11 avr. 2021 à 1 h 3
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    Modifié 11 avr. 2021 à 1 h 9
    Quoting: NickC1988
    I'd be shocked if Kaprizov gets $10M. Panarin got $6Mx2 in CHI. First year RFAs don't have many options for negotiations.


    I agree, wings in general dont make as much as centers. Now there are exceptions to this like Marner and Rantanen got a lot of money as both had 80-90+ point seasons. Both deserved it. Panarin had 77 points and took a 2 year bridge at 6mill

    Now depending on the direction Minissota decides I either see a Matthew Tkachuck bridge deal (7millx3) or they go more money and term (9.5x8 so Kucherov money). I have a feeling hes gonna get a bridge deal as he can always make more after depending on how well he does.

    god though I wish Dubas was drafting back than and not Hunter, Kaprisov literally is the definition of a Dubas type of player and would just be a joy for us lul. Minny got themselves a steal
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    11 avr. 2021 à 1 h 39
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    They didn't say this. They said Columbus believe this.

    wild would be interested, but if they can get that first, he's not coming here. Don't Guerin paying that for somebody he can sign this summer

    — Michael Russo (@RussoHockey) April 11, 2021
    11 avr. 2021 à 1 h 41
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    Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
    Have a stacked prospect pool, 2 firsts, his brother plays there so they could likely extend him, probably needs a more leadership type of player.


    They have Marcus foligno, nick bonino, , jared spurgeon, ian Cole, etc..

    wild would be interested, but if they can get that first, he's not coming here. Don't Guerin paying that for somebody he can sign this summer

    — Michael Russo (@RussoHockey) April 11, 2021
    11 avr. 2021 à 1 h 58
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    I don't think Foligno gets an outright 1st. I could see a conditional 1st depending on how far the team that gets him goes in the Playoffs.

    Depending on which teams he has on his NTC list (and if he'll waive), MN might be bidding against themselves.
     
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