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Ver 6 Trading Hughes

Créé par: CptMuffin
Date de création initiale: avr 9, 2021
Publié: 9 avr à 14 h 23
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
I do not think trading Quinn Hughes is a good idea, but I can't help but think it could be the best way to a cup.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Podkolzin, Vasily3925 000 $
Utunen, Toni3750 000 $
Keppen, Ethan3800 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Pettersson, Elias38 500 000 $
Lind, Kole2900 000 $
Kielly, Jake2750 000 $
Hawryluk, Jayce1800 000 $
Gaudette, Adam21 100 000 $
Brisebois, Guillaume2750 000 $
Eliot, Mitch2850 000 $
Bailey, Justin1750 000 $
Michaelis, Marc2750 000 $
Jasek, Lukas2850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Lowry, Adam34 000 000 $
Hamilton, Dougie47 000 000 $
Montour, Brandon23 500 000 $
Graovac, Tyler1750 000 $
Boyd, Travis1750 000 $
Edler, Alexander12 500 000 $
Chatfield, Jalen2750 000 $
Rafferty, Brogan2750 000 $
Transactions
VAN
  1. Dobson, Noah
  2. 2022 1e round pick (NYI)
  3. 2022 2e round pick (COL)
NYI
  1. Hughes, Quinn [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2021 3e round pick (VAN)
VAN
    DET
    1. Holtby, Braden
    2. 2022 2e round pick (COL)
    VAN
      Calgary is just standing in for Seattle
      CGY
      1. Myers, Tyler
      2. 2022 1e round pick (NYI)
      Détails additionnels:
      Giving the first round pick to get Seattle to draft Myers in the expansion draft
      VAN
      1. 2021 3e round pick (DET)
      DET
      1. Juolevi, Olli [Droits de RFA]
      VAN
      1. Toews, Devon
      Détails additionnels:
      Colorado is losing a good defenceman one way or another this offseason. I think a 2nd round pick is more than anyone else gives them for one.
      COL
      1. 2021 2e round pick (VAN)
      Rachats de contrats
      • Jake Virtanen: 50 000 $
      Frais appliqués
      • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
      Enfoui
      • Antoine Roussel: 1 875 000 $ (3 000 000 $)
      • Loui Eriksson: 4 875 000 $ (6 000 000 $)
      ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
      2021
      VAN
      DET
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      2022
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      2023
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      VAN
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2381 500 000 $80 157 713 $0 $1 620 000 $1 342 287 $

      Formation

      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      VAN
      Miller, J.T.
      5 250 000 $
      AG, C
      UFA - 2
      VAN
      Pettersson, Elias
      8 500 000 $
      C
      RFA
      VAN
      Boeser, Brock
      5 875 000 $
      AD
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Höglander, Nils
      891 667 $
      AG, AD
      RFA - 2
      VAN
      Horvat, Bo
      5 500 000 $
      C
      UFA - 2
      VAN
      Podkolzin, Vasily
      925 000 $
      AD
      RFA
      VAN
      Pearson, Tanner
      3 250 000 $
      AG
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      Lowry, Adam
      4 000 000 $
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 5
      VAN
      Gaudette, Adam
      1 100 000 $
      C
      RFA
      VAN
      Motte, Tyler
      1 225 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Boyd, Travis
      750 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA
      VAN
      Hawryluk, Jayce
      800 000 $
      AD, AG
      RFA
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      VAN
      Schmidt, Nate
      5 950 000 $
      DG/DD
      NTC
      UFA - 4
      Hamilton, Dougie
      7 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA
      VAN
      Demko, Thatcher
      5 000 000 $
      G
      UFA - 5
      COL
      Toews, Devon
      4 100 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 3
      Montour, Brandon
      3 500 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA
      VAN
      DiPietro, Michael
      811 667 $
      G
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Edler, Alexander
      2 500 000 $
      DG
      UFA
      NYI
      Dobson, Noah
      894 167 $
      DD
      RFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      VAN
      MacEwen, Zack
      825 000 $
      C, AD
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Ferland, Micheal
      3 500 000 $
      AG, AD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      VAN
      Rathbone, Jack
      925 000 $
      DG
      RFA - 1
      VAN
      Beagle, Jay
      3 000 000 $
      C
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      VAN
      Graovac, Tyler
      750 000 $
      C
      UFA

      Unités spéciales

      Avantage numérique 1
      Boeser, B.
      Horvat, B.
      Miller, J.
      Hamilton, D.
      Pettersson, E.
      Avantage numérique 2
      Gaudette, A.
      Lowry, A.
      Höglander, N.
      Schmidt, N.
      Toews, D.
      Infériorité numérique 1
      Lowry, A.
      Motte, T.
      Edler, A.
      Montour, B.
      Infériorité numérique 2
      Boyd, T.
      Pearson, T.
      Schmidt, N.
      Hamilton, D.

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      9 avr à 14 h 26
      #1
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      Sakic says absolutely not
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      9 avr à 14 h 26
      #2
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      Easy no for the Islanders, drop all the draft picks and its closer
      9 avr à 14 h 26
      #3
      Chris
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      Isles decline. They can’t afford Hughes. Can you take Andrew Ladd and Thomas Hickey? And take Komorav for fun?
      9 avr à 14 h 27
      #4
      Boi
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      First off you gotta trade Quinn to NJ
      Secondly toews has been a top 10 dman this season as well as they traded 2 2nds to acquire him so that wouldn’t go through avs prolly pay Seattle to take graces
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      9 avr à 14 h 27
      #5
      Boi
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      Quoting: KrisBeKreame
      Easy no for the Islanders, drop all the draft picks and its closer

      Lol Quinn is having an awful season defensively but his value is still words higher than dobson
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      9 avr à 14 h 33
      #6
      JRob for Calder
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      Easy no from Avs.
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      9 avr à 14 h 34
      #7
      Démarrer sujet
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      Quoting: moli92
      Sakic says absolutely not


      Normally yeah. But his team is losing a defenceman to Seattle no matter what and every team will know this. Try to leverage that and pay more than what others would. I doubt anyone is giving up 2 seconds for him this summer. Or Sakic will be paying some kind of premium to get Seattle to take someone else.
      9 avr à 14 h 36
      #8
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      Quoting: Bigboi69
      First off you gotta trade Quinn to NJ
      Secondly toews has been a top 10 dman this season as well as they traded 2 2nds to acquire him so that wouldn’t go through avs prolly pay Seattle to take graces


      I looked at New Jersey first, wasn't easy finding a trade there.
      9 avr à 14 h 37
      #9
      Boi
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      Quoting: CptMuffin
      I looked at New Jersey first, wasn't easy finding a trade there.


      They have multiple picks and top prospects, could do something like NYIs 1st this year, a 2nd and mukmadulin
      9 avr à 14 h 44
      #10
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      Quoting: Bigboi69
      They have multiple picks and top prospects, could do something like NYIs 1st this year, a 2nd and mukmadulin


      I've never heard of Mukmadulin before a quick little research trip, but looks like he could be an option down the road. Just not an NHL ready option.
      9 avr à 14 h 51
      #11
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      Quoting: CptMuffin
      Normally yeah. But his team is losing a defenceman to Seattle no matter what and every team will know this. Try to leverage that and pay more than what others would. I doubt anyone is giving up 2 seconds for him this summer. Or Sakic will be paying some kind of premium to get Seattle to take someone else.


      So you think COL will sell Toews for pennies on the dollar and then also lose another player to Seattle? Thats the worst possible outcome for the Avs. Not to mention Toews wouldnt even be the one going, it would be Graves if anything. EJ can either waive his NMC or be bought out cause Sakic will make sure Makar, Girard, and Toews are all staying long term. SEA can take one of Graves/Donskoi/Compher/Francouz and move on
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      9 avr à 14 h 53
      #12
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      Quoting: CptMuffin
      Normally yeah. But his team is losing a defenceman to Seattle no matter what and every team will know this. Try to leverage that and pay more than what others would. I doubt anyone is giving up 2 seconds for him this summer. Or Sakic will be paying some kind of premium to get Seattle to take someone else.


      If you set your sights on Graves for a 2nd then maybe. The Avs will bend over whichever way Seattle wants them to in order to keep Toews though (not exaggerating here).
      9 avr à 14 h 56
      #13
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      Woof. This is bad
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      9 avr à 15 h 19
      #14
      Démarrer sujet
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      Quoting: moli92
      So you think COL will sell Toews for pennies on the dollar and then also lose another player to Seattle? Thats the worst possible outcome for the Avs. Not to mention Toews wouldnt even be the one going, it would be Graves if anything. EJ can either waive his NMC or be bought out cause Sakic will make sure Makar, Girard, and Toews are all staying long term. SEA can take one of Graves/Donskoi/Compher/Francouz and move on


      Fair enough, switch that up to Graves for a third.
      9 avr à 15 h 19
      #15
      Démarrer sujet
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      Quoting: Trotz2020
      Woof. This is bad


      Thats uh, helpful. Care to elaborate?
      9 avr à 15 h 23
      #16
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      Quoting: CptMuffin
      Fair enough, switch that up to Graves for a third.


      Nope. If they move Graves then they lose someone else in the expansion draft. Pay fair value or find a d man somewhere else
      9 avr à 15 h 29
      #17
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      Quoting: moli92
      Nope. If they move Graves then they lose someone else in the expansion draft. Pay fair value or find a d man somewhere else


      See, I think a third is more than fair value. They stole Schmidt for a third last summer and Schmidt is a better defenseman.
      9 avr à 15 h 56
      #18
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      Quoting: CptMuffin
      See, I think a third is more than fair value. They stole Schmidt for a third last summer and Schmidt is a better defenseman.


      Schmidt is also paid nearly 6M and VGK needed to clear cap (which was very hard to do last offseason), now teams are more prepared for the flat cap and with the expansion draft many teams will have more cap space available this summer
      9 avr à 16 h 22
      #19
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      You realize that you could just keep Hughes and not sign Hamilton right?

      But I doubt Seattle is taking Myers off your plate though I suppose they may.
      9 avr à 16 h 42
      #20
      Démarrer sujet
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      Quoting: BCAPP
      You realize that you could just keep Hughes and not sign Hamilton right?

      But I doubt Seattle is taking Myers off your plate though I suppose they may.


      yeah you could do that, or you could use the assets you get from trading him to plug holes and then use the space to sign Hamilton.

      And yeah Seattle might not take Myers if we give them a first rounder to take him for the expansion draft. But you gotta shoot your shot. Maybe they do?
      9 avr à 16 h 45
      #21
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      Quoting: CptMuffin
      Fair enough, switch that up to Graves for a third.


      Bro you are out there. Just for the sake of argument the Avs were going to expose Toews won’t happen but let’s just say, you think Vancouver is the highest offer for top pairing dman making less than $5M for the next 3 years with a 2nd rd pick? That’s funny I bet there is no less than 10 team that offer a 1st +. But that’s not going to happen because Toews is going to get protected because EJ NMC isn’t a factor. Now you think Graves will net you a 3rd lol. COL will just let Graves get picked and be done with it. If VAN wants Graves then they have to make it worth it to COL to lose Graves AND another player.
       
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