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Créé par: yycofred

Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary

Date de création initiale: 9 avr. 2021

Publié: 9 avr. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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it seems like the busiest flames fans on this site can only say "flames decline" "no" "not close" with zero substance, if you cant substantiate a disagreement then just dont..

compare it to the pacioretty deal. calgary wants to stay competitive, they need a roster player, they want to get better they need a future piece and the would likely want a draft pick. flames probably have to add a touch in a few deals

people who are still valuing gaudreau as a 99 point trade piece are out of their minds, it wont happen. not only because his production has decline but his playoff performance, his age, his contract etc etc.

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DeBrusk, Jake
Hall, Curtis [Droits de RFA]
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Trocheck, Vincent
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Guhle, Kaiden
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Brink, Bobby [Liste de réserve]
Gostisbehere, Shayne
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Killorn, Alex
Raddysh, Taylor
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Nylander, William

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Tuch, Alex

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Björkqvist, Kasper
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Rachats de contrats

Troy Brouwer: 1 500 000 $
Michael Stone: 1 166 667 $

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
37	81 500 000 $	112 164 864 $	0 $	2 290 000 $	-30 664 864 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Tkachuk, Matthew 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AD UFA - 2	Monahan, Sean 6 375 000 $6 375 000 $ C, AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Lindholm, Elias 4 850 000 $4 850 000 $ C, AD UFA - 4
Gaudreau, Johnny 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Backlund, Mikael 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C NTC UFA - 4	Ryan, Derek 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1
Lucic, Milan 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 3		Leivo, Josh 875 000 $875 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Bennett, Sam 2 550 000 $2 550 000 $ C UFA - 1		Dubé, Dillon 778 333 $778 333 $ (32 500 $$32K) AG, AD, C RFA - 1
Mangiapane, Andrew 2 425 000 $2 425 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Trocheck, Vincent 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2	Ritchie, Brett 700 000 $700 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Nordström, Joakim 700 000 $700 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Danault, Phillip 3 083 333 $3 083 333 $ C UFA - 1	Tippett, Owen 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG UFA - 2
DeBrusk, Jake 3 675 000 $3 675 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Afanasyev, Egor 803 333 $803 333 $ C, AG RFA - 4	Kunin, Luke 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ AD, C RFA - 2
Denisenko, Grigori 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD RFA - 3		Raddysh, Taylor 833 333 $833 333 $ AD RFA - 1
Killorn, Alex 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3		Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 4
Björkqvist, Kasper 792 500 $792 500 $ (132 500 $$132K) AG RFA - 1		Tuch, Alex 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 6
		Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Giordano, Mark 3 375 000 $3 375 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersson, Rasmus 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DD UFA - 6	Markström, Jacob 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G NMC UFA - 6
Hanifin, Noah 1 237 500 $1 237 500 $ DG UFA - 4	Tanev, Christopher 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 4	Rittich, David 1 375 000 $1 375 000 $ G UFA - 1
Välimäki, Juuso 894 166 $894 166 $ (425 000 $$425K) DG RFA - 1	Stone, Michael 700 000 $700 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Nesterov, Nikita 700 000 $700 000 $ DG UFA - 1
Guhle, Kaiden 925 000 $925 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 5
Gostisbehere, Shayne 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3

Équipe de réserve
Kylington, Oliver 787 500 $787 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG/DD UFA - 1
Robinson, Buddy 700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD UFA - 1
Petrovic, Alex 700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DD UFA - 1
Domingue, Louis 700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) G UFA - 1
Rinaldo, Zac 700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG UFA - 1
Simon, Dominik 700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, AG UFA - 1

9 avr. 2021 à 13 h 58

PhatRas

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I won't pretend to know enough about most of the prospects up there but I think the Pacioretty deal is a close comparison, Flames should get a bit more but it's a good baseline, these deals are with competitive teams and the seconds are basically thirds, a lot could bump to a first in my mind.

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9 avr. 2021 à 13 h 59

PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

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Nylander is likely worth more than Gaudreau right now. He's younger and has been better the past 2 years. Plus he's locked up longer for cheaper. Makes no sense

9 avr. 2021 à 14 h 0

yycofred

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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Nylander is likely worth more than Gaudreau right now. He's younger and has been better the past 2 years. Plus he's locked up longer for cheaper. Makes no sense

bottom of the list kind of trade, in no way would i want nylander, just going through teams and putting names out there. probably option 10 of 10 out of these in my mind.

9 avr. 2021 à 14 h 3

PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

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Quoting: yycofred

bottom of the list kind of trade, in no way would i want nylander, just going through teams and putting names out there. probably option 10 of 10 out of these in my mind.

9 avr. 2021 à 14 h 4

Subbanator7667

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Quoting: PhatRas

Have to remember that Tatar was a cap dump in Vegas eyes, not a 60 point winger like he turned out to be and Patchs had a deal in place with Vegas before the trade so they got more value

mk458 a aimé ceci.

9 avr. 2021 à 14 h 9

spockrock

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Wouldn’t trade Trocheck 1–1 for Gaudrau, much less add...

canes2020 a aimé ceci.

9 avr. 2021 à 14 h 10

yycofred

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Have to remember that Tatar was a cap dump in Vegas eyes, not a 60 point winger like he turned out to be and Patchs had a deal in place with Vegas before the trade so they got more value

fair enough, tatar did have nearly 40 points the year before he was moved so maybe not a true cap dump but a good point to keep in mind for sure.

9 avr. 2021 à 14 h 15

yycofred

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Quoting: spockrock

Wouldn’t trade Trocheck 1–1 for Gaudrau, much less add...

thats pretty high praise for a good 2c with potentially better options coming up in the system and needing to pay him in two years. gaudreau would make more sense for the canes to re sign in two years than trocheck.

9 avr. 2021 à 14 h 33

Twins1568

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Florida, Nashville and Pitts are the deal I like the most, but I prefer Calgary keep Gaudreau and bring an elite centerman

9 avr. 2021 à 14 h 45

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Montreal has no interest in Gaudreau. Bergevin is trying to build a playoff team and Gaudreau is known to disappear when that time comes. I'd say they have no interest in him whatsoever.

9 avr. 2021 à 15 h 47

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Quoting: yycofred

One player plays a more important position, plays in all situations, doesn’t get **** on by his coach and makes $2M less...the other well, is Johnny Gaudreau.

I’ll keep my ppg 2C thanks very much.

9 avr. 2021 à 17 h 1

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PhatRas

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Have to remember that Tatar was a cap dump in Vegas eyes, not a 60 point winger like he turned out to be and Patchs had a deal in place with Vegas before the trade so they got more value

That's a good point, I didn't realize how much time Tatar had left on his deal at the time of the move!

9 avr. 2021 à 17 h 4

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Quoting: yycofred

no it wouldnt. Necas is a much better winger in this league than a center. I would easily take Tro over Gaudrea any day. Not only are centers worth more but RBA would play a future center for 2 seasons to get them ready to play in the league. A tried and true center is huge here.

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