Blackwood

Talbot's too high imo, Fleury too low. I would not have Ullmark in the top10 but he's been fine. Some are interchangeables but agreed with most selections.

You can argue all day about where each of these guys should be in relation to each other, and that's without even beginning to factor in the value of the economic difference between the guys on minimum contracts (Petersen, Lankinen, Driedger) and the heavy hitters (Vasilevskiy, Fleury, Hellebuyck). Suffice it to say that this is surely 10 of the best starting goalies this year, and I at least have no one to add.

Note that three of them still don't have new contracts for next year.

Vasilevsky and Grubauer are heads and shoulders above everybody else and it isn’t even close.
Save % 1 & 2, GAA 2 & 1, Wins 1 & 1, shut outs 3 & 1, I would be shocked if they weren’t 1 2 in Vezina. For my money, Fleury 3, Dreidger probably 4. Talbot in the top 10 is a mistake imo as Kakkonen is a better goalie.

Campbell #1

Ranking using Goals saved above expected (GSAx), minimum 15GP:
1. Vasilevskiy (+18)
2. Fleury (+12)
3. Hellebuyck (+12)
4. Petersen (+11)
5. Demko (+10)
6. Grubauer (+6)
7. Shesterkin (+5)
8. Talbot (+5)
9. Kuemper (+3)
10. Smith (+3)

Worst 10, where #1 is the worst:
1. Carter Hart (-26)
2. Murray (-19)
3. Greiss (-19)
4. Rinne (-13)
5. Korpisalo (-12)
6. Andersen (-11)
7. Elliott (-11)
8. Markstrom (-10)
9. Dubnyk (-8)
10. Bobrovsky (-8)


GSAx accounts for the team in front of the goalie too, which is why Grubauer is 6th best and Andersen is 6th worse.

I agree the Vasy is running away with it. Grubauer has a strong team in front of him which boosts his stats compared to Talbot and Petersen. Grubauer has been excellent tho

not enough games. If he continues his place of play for the rest of the season I could see him being at 5.

This is what kills me, what team plays in front of Vasilevsky? Grubauer has a better gaa, more shut outs and higher quality save %. Let’s not discount Grubauer and give Vasilevsky credit when they both play in front of imo the 2 best teams in the league. But yeah that’s my take.

I looked at those stats to partly make my decision. I also used some also stats such as quality starts, really bad starts, and simply seeing them play sometimes.

That's a fair take, I used GSAA partly, and Vasy was significantly higher than Grubauer, but Grubeaur was second. Vasy has not had a bad start this year while Grubauer has had 3. You could definitely make a case for Grubauer at 3 or even 2.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/leagues/NHL_2021_goalies.html