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Équipe: 2020-21 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 31 mars 2021
Publié: 31 mars 2021
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SJS
  1. Henrique, Adam
  2. Lundeström, Isac
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
what would it cost the ducks?
(top 5 protected)
ANA
    way too long term but just showing
    2.
    SJS
    1. Hjalmarsson, Niklas
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
    ARI
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (SJS)
    Détails additionnels:
    plausible - whats the cost?
    3.
    SJS
    1. Noel, Serron
    2. Strålman, Anton
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
    Détails additionnels:
    idk is he a necessary dump?
    i dislike noel so im not valuing him much here
    FLA
    1. Simek, Radim
    Détails additionnels:
    is there even a need to move him?
    4.
    SJS
    1. Rask, Victor
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
    Détails additionnels:
    is rask even a necessary "dump"?
    5.
    SJS
    1. Bellows, Kieffer
    2. Ladd, Andrew
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYI)
    4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
    5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (COL)
    NYI
      to long term for the sharks and too costly for the isles to pay for ridding
      6.
      SJS
      1. Komarov, Leo
      Détails additionnels:
      2022 2nd round pick (COL)
      NYI
        some what plausible
        7.
        SJS
        1. Bozak, Tyler
        2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (STL)
        STL
        1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
        Détails additionnels:
        plausible target
        8.
        9.
        SJS
        1. Eriksson, Loui
        2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
        3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
        4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
        VAN
          plausible
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          TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
          3181 500 000 $108 290 508 $0 $657 500 $-26 790 508 $
          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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          7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
          AG, AD
          M-NTC
          UFA - 5
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
          C
          M-NTC
          UFA - 7
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 4
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 3
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
          C
          M-NTC
          UFA - 2
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          735 000 $735 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 1
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          700 000 $700 000 $
          AD
          UFA - 1
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 1
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
          AG, AD
          RFA - 2
          Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
          1 456 250 $1 456 250 $
          AG, C
          M-NTC
          UFA - 4
          Logo de Panthers de la Floride
          894 167 $894 167 $
          AD
          UFA - 3
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          700 000 $700 000 $
          AG, C
          UFA - 1
          Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
          925 000 $925 000 $
          C, AG
          RFA - 1
          Logo de Islanders de New York
          3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
          AD, AG, C
          M-NTC
          UFA - 2
          Logo de Islanders de New York
          5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
          AG
          M-NTC
          UFA - 3
          Logo de Wild du Minnesota
          2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
          C
          UFA - 2
          Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
          5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
          AD, C, AG
          NTC
          UFA - 4
          Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
          833 333 $833 333 $
          AG
          RFA - 1
          Logo de Islanders de New York
          894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
          AG, AD
          UFA - 1
          Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
          6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
          AG, AD
          M-NTC
          UFA - 2
          Logo de Blues de St-Louis
          5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
          C, AD
          M-NTC
          UFA - 1
          Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
          759 258 $759 258 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 1
          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
          DG/DD
          NMC
          UFA - 6
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
          DD
          NMC
          UFA - 7
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
          G
          M-NTC
          UFA - 4
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          5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
          DD
          M-NTC
          UFA - 5
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          2 166 667 $2 166 667 $
          G
          M-NTC
          UFA - 1
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
          DG
          UFA - 2
          Logo de Panthers de la Floride
          5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
          DD
          M-NTC
          UFA - 2
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          796 667 $796 667 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
          DG/DD
          UFA - 2
          Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
          5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
          DG/DD
          NMC
          UFA - 1
          Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          700 000 $700 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 1
          Équipe de réserve
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
          G
          UFA - 2
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          780 000 $780 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
          AG
          UFA - 1
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
          DG
          UFA - 1
          Logo de Sharks de San Jose
          700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
          C
          UFA - 1

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          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 2
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          All the suggested trades are just thrown together - don't take too seriously but focus on whos the contracts and if I missed any/ any teams that need help lemme know. Wanna see the Sharks options for growing their asset pool for taking cap dumps.
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          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 2
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          no real reason to move stralman
          his contract is up right when barkov's is, so no issues there
          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 3
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          Rask is not bad enough to pay to dump. 2M retained for the final year, and you can probably move him for a late pick, if you need. Worst case scenario, buy him out for very little. If someone was willing to take on the full 4M for the last season, I'd probably give up a 5th, maybe a 4th, but any more than that and I wouldn't consider it.
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          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 5
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          It’s gonna be 3-way retention, doubt SJ is going to pick up any players, just their cap.
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          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 5
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          Bozak and Hjalmarsson are pending UFA's, no way are you getting a 2nd to take them for 20 games lol
          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 5
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          A) Henriques contract isn’t that bad. He had a bad start but is now heating up ( 5 points in 5 games I think but I could be wrong )

          B) Lundestrom is one of our best prospects / rookies right now

          C) Ducks are in no position to trade ANY first round picks right now

          D) Ducks aren’t trading with a division rival like San Jose
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          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 5
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          Arizona will likely just let Hjalmarsson expire, same with Anaheim and Henrique who has been good. I'd say the most realistic is the Komarov deal
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          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 7
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          Can the Sharks afford?
          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 12
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          Modifié 31 mars 2021 à 18 h 18
          Quoting: NHLfan10506
          Can the Sharks afford?


          6mil in usable cap space for dumps - Pierre Lebrun

          Quoting: SevenLeg
          Arizona will likely just let Hjalmarsson expire, same with Anaheim and Henrique who has been good. I'd say the most realistic is the Komarov deal

          Quoting: HadesOfSoCal
          A) Henriques contract isn’t that bad. He had a bad start but is now heating up ( 5 points in 5 games I think but I could be wrong )

          B) Lundestrom is one of our best prospects / rookies right now

          C) Ducks are in no position to trade ANY first round picks right now

          D) Ducks aren’t trading with a division rival like San Jose


          Quoting: Claesson4Norris
          Bozak and Hjalmarsson are pending UFA's, no way are you getting a 2nd to take them for 20 games lol


          Quoting: Klara
          It’s gonna be 3-way retention, doubt SJ is going to pick up any players, just their cap.


          Quoting: Caerii
          Rask is not bad enough to pay to dump. 2M retained for the final year, and you can probably move him for a late pick, if you need. Worst case scenario, buy him out for very little. If someone was willing to take on the full 4M for the last season, I'd probably give up a 5th, maybe a 4th, but any more than that and I wouldn't consider it.


          Quoting: VijayPatel11
          no real reason to move stralman
          his contract is up right when barkov's is, so no issues there

          Quoting: OldNYIfan
          Anaheim has no reason to move Henrique's contract even if this year is a harbinger of worse to come -- we have the cap space and the cash to simply eat it. We might take "only" a prospect for him, but we wouldn't go to the extreme of paying a prime prospect like Lundestrom or a first or a second in order to move him.


          I just went threw all teams and picked contracts that seemed "reasonable" to move for the other team.

          Ducks have no need to move him but the term is long so the sharks wouldnt have interest anyways as I implied and his waive early makes it a undesirable contract so I just included him - but yee the cost if needed to be moved likely wouldnt be worth it (and hes playing well again which i didnt care to check as yall pointed out).

          Both bozak and hj moves are just based on team needing space. as i included in the deals and my comments the sharks are sending assets back there (4th) so its obvious its not a second to dump them as theyd need something back - but i get what youre saying tho the trades are just base's theres obvious needs to be fixed for the teams if these moves happened.

          wild dont really need to move rask but felt like including him

          and thought so, about FLA

          Komerov is plausible but I wonder what dougs full plan is. as klara said - I could see that 3way is the most likely case but we do have 6m so its better to see what all the contracts are rather than try and figure out 3 ways as those are always complicated, and hard to predict.
          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 12
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          I think Hammer has positive value.... retain him 50% and he's a viable buy as a DFD on many teams. He's having a down year more than being a bad player.

          Would expect Loui to cost around what Marc Staal did. A 2nd and 3rd at most.

          Komarov and Johnson are the most likely players listed here to be moved
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          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 16
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          Quoting: Wqrrior
          I think Hammer has positive value.... retain him 50% and he's a viable buy as a DFD on many teams. He's having a down year more than being a bad player.

          Would expect Loui to cost around what Marc Staal did. A 2nd and 3rd at most.

          Komarov and Johnson are the most likely players listed here to be moved


          TJ definitely should be on the Sharks radar. If they can pull a first and a prospect its worth it. I think the Sharks shoulda done it back in the offseason.
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          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 18
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          Anaheim has no reason to move Henrique's contract even if this year is a harbinger of worse to come -- we have the cap space and the cash to simply eat it. We might take "only" a prospect for him, but we wouldn't go to the extreme of paying a prime prospect like Lundestrom or a first or a second in order to move him.
          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 20
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          Quoting: HadesOfSoCal
          A) Henriques contract isn’t that bad. He had a bad start but is now heating up ( 5 points in 5 games I think but I could be wrong )

          B) Lundestrom is one of our best prospects / rookies right now

          C) Ducks are in no position to trade ANY first round picks right now

          D) Ducks aren’t trading with a division rival like San Jose


          You hit all four points.
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          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 42
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          Hjalmarsson, Rask and Bozak are all overpaid but none of them are cap dumps to me
          31 mars 2021 à 18 h 58
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          I think the days of trading 1st round picks or high end prospects to get rid of players contracts are over. Teams are better off being worse for the remainder of that bad players contract than losing a potential star player.

          Virtually every time a team did it in the past, it bit in the arse later on. I think GMs have finally learned from it.
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          31 mars 2021 à 19 h 23
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          The cost to dump a player is over inflated, a 1st 2nd and 3rd to dump 1 year of Eriksson? 2 years of Ladd for a prospect a 1st and 2 2nds? Thats not plausible. Bozak and Komarov both go for seconds which is way more plausible but not on the same page value-wise as the Eriksson or Ladd trades. Gms have no reason to do those trades
          31 mars 2021 à 19 h 48
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          I think the Henrique one and the Stralman ones are a bit overvalued for what it would take and a couple of the UFA ones wouldnt make sense for the other teams, i think the big ones like ladd and eriksson are pretty close though
          31 mars 2021 à 20 h 13
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          Henrique half retained has some pretty good positive value fwiw
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          31 mars 2021 à 21 h 52
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          I think Wild consider your offer. Wild don't necessarily need to move Rasks contract but wild are also getting Gambrell who is a young right shot center so maybe if Wild scouts see some value in him then I could see this happening.
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