SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Mittelstadt

Créé par: dgfresh78
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 31 mars 2021
Publié: 31 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
BUF
  1. Riikola, Juuso
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
3rd becomes a 2nd if Pittsburgh reaches the ECF
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de WSH
Logo de ANA
2022
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
2023
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $77 305 967 $0 $850 000 $4 194 033 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 940 000 $2 940 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
874 125 $874 125 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
725 000 $725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ (125 000 $$125K125 000 $$125K)
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
792 500 $792 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
725 000 $725 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD, C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
792 500 $792 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
UFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
31 mars 2021 à 10 h 25
#1
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 7,514
Mentions "j'aime": 5,735
This trade makes absolutely zero sense for the sabres
Tarlam01, exo2769, kclar and 1 other person a aimé ceci.
31 mars 2021 à 10 h 38
#2
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2021
Messages: 139
Mentions "j'aime": 26
like the trade but i don't think pitt neeeds him. They lack physicality so a 3C who is more physical would be better for them imo
31 mars 2021 à 10 h 47
#3
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 3,892
Mentions "j'aime": 2,794
Quoting: wojme
This trade makes absolutely zero sense for the sabres


Because he’s such a an integral part of the sabres org???
31 mars 2021 à 10 h 53
#4
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2018
Messages: 2,277
Mentions "j'aime": 507
Quoting: mistergm87
like the trade but i don't think pitt neeeds him. They lack physicality so a 3C who is more physical would be better for them imo


Yeah I’m not gonna stand for them detailing this entire season and getting back to cup form to get physical. Everyone keeps screaming for Sam Bennett but that ain’t it.
31 mars 2021 à 11 h 11
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 7,514
Mentions "j'aime": 5,735
Quoting: jnowariak
Because he’s such a an integral part of the sabres org???


Giving up a young piece for a depth rental dman screams terrible management.
kclar a aimé ceci.
31 mars 2021 à 11 h 25
#6
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 2,145
Mentions "j'aime": 367
Quoting: dgfresh78
Yeah I’m not gonna stand for them detailing this entire season and getting back to cup form to get physical. Everyone keeps screaming for Sam Bennett but that ain’t it.


Sam Bennett is more "it" than Middlestadt and like it or not this team is going to add size and toughness...I can guarantee that.
31 mars 2021 à 11 h 33
#7
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2017
Messages: 5,418
Mentions "j'aime": 1,440
Quoting: wojme
Giving up a young piece for a depth rental dman screams terrible management.


Riikola isn’t a rental.
31 mars 2021 à 11 h 36
#8
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 7,514
Mentions "j'aime": 5,735
Quoting: Pensfan89
Riikola isn’t a rental.


He pretty much is with only 1 year left on his contract. Zero sense for the sabres, ZERO
31 mars 2021 à 11 h 42
#9
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 4,292
Mentions "j'aime": 2,340
Quoting: ChampEddy
Sam Bennett is more "it" than Middlestadt and like it or not this team is going to add size and toughness...I can guarantee that.


Casey is better than Sam Bennett.
31 mars 2021 à 11 h 44
#10
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2018
Messages: 4,928
Mentions "j'aime": 2,670
Sabres decline. He looked like a good top 9 player even in Buffalo's current dire situation.
31 mars 2021 à 11 h 48
#11
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2017
Messages: 5,418
Mentions "j'aime": 1,440
Quoting: wojme
He pretty much is with only 1 year left on his contract. Zero sense for the sabres, ZERO


I mean that’s not what a rental is lol. You get a year and a half with him. Play him. If he plays well then trade him or sign him longer term.
31 mars 2021 à 11 h 48
#12
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 3,489
Mentions "j'aime": 1,491
Quoting: Sabres923
Casey is better than Sam Bennett.


Lmao no shot. Bennett is better and actually has had consistent success
31 mars 2021 à 11 h 53
#13
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 7,514
Mentions "j'aime": 5,735
Quoting: Pensfan89
I mean that’s not what a rental is lol. You get a year and a half with him. Play him. If he plays well then trade him or sign him longer term.


A year and 15 games (after tdl) of a depth dman is useless for a young player that is playing better each year is not worth the same. I don't know what you're trying to argue here.
31 mars 2021 à 11 h 58
#14
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 4,292
Mentions "j'aime": 2,340
Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
Lmao no shot. Bennett is better and actually has had consistent success

Bennet 34 games played 4-3-7 points 0.20 PPG.

Mittlestadt, 19 Games played 1-4-5 points. 0.26 PPG.
Casey’s analytics are better both offensively and defensively. Bennett is awful.
31 mars 2021 à 11 h 59
#15
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2018
Messages: 2,277
Mentions "j'aime": 507
Quoting: ChampEddy
Sam Bennett is more "it" than Middlestadt and like it or not this team is going to add size and toughness...I can guarantee that.


Then go get someone like Virtanen who has potential to score and still play the physical game. He seems perfect because you can put him in a 3rd line role and run him up with Sid whenever things get heated.
31 mars 2021 à 12 h 0
#16
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 3,489
Mentions "j'aime": 1,491
Quoting: Sabres923
Bennet 34 games played 4-3-7 points 0.20 PPG.

Mittlestadt, 19 Games played 1-4-5 points. 0.26 PPG.
Casey’s analytics are better both offensively and defensively. Bennett is awful.


Now look at what they have done in their careers. Like I said. Bennett is better and has actually had consistent seasons. Mittlestadt has not done 1 thing
31 mars 2021 à 12 h 4
#17
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2017
Messages: 5,418
Mentions "j'aime": 1,440
Quoting: wojme
A year and 15 games (after tdl) of a depth dman is useless for a young player that is playing better each year is not worth the same. I don't know what you're trying to argue here.

Playing better each year? Riiiiighhhht lol. He is at best a 3rd liner.
31 mars 2021 à 12 h 5
#18
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 7,514
Mentions "j'aime": 5,735
Quoting: Pensfan89
Playing better each year? Riiiiighhhht lol. He is at best a 3rd liner.


Which is better than a depth dman with 1 year left!
31 mars 2021 à 12 h 29
#19
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2020
Messages: 2,072
Mentions "j'aime": 1,984
Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
Now look at what they have done in their careers. Like I said. Bennett is better and has actually had consistent seasons. Mittlestadt has not done 1 thing


Tbh, both are pretty equal in value right now. Bennett has had a 9 game playoff stretch where he was a really good player, but then reverted to really underwhelming. Mitts has also been underwhelming. Both are depth forwards. Mitts is younger, so possibly keeps developing, where Bennett is what he is, which right now might slightly be better then Mitts.
31 mars 2021 à 12 h 35
#20
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 3,489
Mentions "j'aime": 1,491
Quoting: Lsendel3
Tbh, both are pretty equal in value right now. Bennett has had a 9 game playoff stretch where he was a really good player, but then reverted to really underwhelming. Mitts has also been underwhelming. Both are depth forwards. Mitts is younger, so possibly keeps developing, where Bennett is what he is, which right now might slightly be better then Mitts.


Bennett is 24 and has 4 seasons of 10+ goals. 1 30+ point season. 3 20+ point seasons. Mittelstadt has 1 season of 20+ points. Thats it.
31 mars 2021 à 12 h 39
#21
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2020
Messages: 2,072
Mentions "j'aime": 1,984
Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
Bennett is 24 and has 4 seasons of 10+ goals. 1 30+ point season. 3 20+ point seasons. Mittelstadt has 1 season of 20+ points. Thats it.


He’s also only played one season of as many games as Bennett. Extrapolating last season gets him to that 10+ goals and 20+ point seasons that I guess are the benchmark here. Still plenty of time. Weren’t you also the guy who said Ullmark was junk and Buffalo would be lucky to have Murray?
31 mars 2021 à 12 h 43
#22
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 3,489
Mentions "j'aime": 1,491
Quoting: Lsendel3
He’s also only played one season of as many games as Bennett. Extrapolating last season gets him to that 10+ goals and 20+ point seasons that I guess are the benchmark here. Still plenty of time. Weren’t you also the guy who said Ullmark was junk and Buffalo would be lucky to have Murray?


Never said that. I did say I would rather have Murray over Ullmark because Ullmark is already in his late 20s, and the most games hes played in a season is 37. Again, he hasn't shown any years of consistent success. And by that I dont mean playing less than a full season for multiple years. I mean playing a chunk of the season for a few years
31 mars 2021 à 12 h 49
#23
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2020
Messages: 2,072
Mentions "j'aime": 1,984
Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
Never said that. I did say I would rather have Murray over Ullmark because Ullmark is already in his late 20s, and the most games hes played in a season is 37. Again, he hasn't shown any years of consistent success. And by that I dont mean playing less than a full season for multiple years. I mean playing a chunk of the season for a few years


Murray is now going on his 3rd bad year in 4 years. Still feel that way, or is it possible that he was gifted being on a great team, and had some good stretches but isn’t really a starter caliber either (outside of 16/17 when he looked great). Even in 18/19 he was more a product of being on a great team. Put him on the equivalent of the Sabres in Ott, and you can see which one is better.
31 mars 2021 à 12 h 51
#24
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 3,489
Mentions "j'aime": 1,491
Quoting: Lsendel3
Murray is now going on his 3rd bad year in 4 years. Still feel that way, or is it possible that he was gifted being on a great team, and had some good stretches but isn’t really a starter caliber either (outside of 16/17 when he looked great). Even in 18/19 he was more a product of being on a great team. Put him on the equivalent of the Sabres in Ott, and you can see which one is better.


And how exactly does those players relate to Bennett and Mittelstadt?
31 mars 2021 à 12 h 59
#25
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2020
Messages: 2,072
Mentions "j'aime": 1,984
Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
And how exactly does those players relate to Bennett and Mittelstadt?


It relates because past performance doesn’t always correlate to future success and should only be one set of data used when determining a players worth. One of your claims was that Bennett has had 3 seasons of 20+ points. Mitts hasn’t even played 3 seasons worth of hockey yet at the NHL level. And comparing them if you extrapolate nothing but point totals over a full 82 game season they are very close, why I said they probably have similar value vs you saying Bennett is clearly better.
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage