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Leafs Goaltending Options

Créé par: jmac490
Date de création initiale: mar 29, 2021
Publié: 29 mar à 13 h 54
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
The main reason to make a goalie trade is to stabilize the roster moving forward.

Reimer: I think a tandem of Reimer/Campbell would be one of the most positive G cores in the league and I feel like the Leafs play better when they are getting positive reinforcement from their Goalies

Lankinen: Could be a cheap interesting option moving forward as Lankinen has been playing exceptionally for the Hawks and could be the Hawks, "Binnington" for the season. He could flip next year, but for 800K he may be worth the risk

Hart: I really like Hart and he needs his MoJo back. This would be a reclamation project of sorts and the Leafs are a perfect team for projects like these. Simmonds and Galch are two prime examples of reclamation projects that are helping the Leafs succeed this season
Transactions
TOR
  1. Reimer, James
CAR
    Ship Freddie to a 3rd party

    Receive a pick for Freddie that could be flipped for Reimer.
    Potentially a 2nd Rd pick
    TOR
    1. Lankinen, Kevin
    CHI
      Freddie + Higher Pick.
      Maybe a 2nd
      or a Prospect + Pick + Freddie combo
      SDA + 3rd?
      TOR
      1. Hart, Carter
      2. Cates, Noah [Liste de réserve]
      Détails additionnels:
      Cates is a personal favourite and doesn't need to be added. Would be nice to get a lesser W prospect if Amirov is moved
      PHI
        Freddie
        1st
        Amirov
        Rachats de contrats
        • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
        Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
        • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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        2022
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        TOR
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        TOR
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        2023
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        TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
        2181 500 000 $81 688 074 $0 $400 000 $-188 074 $
        Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
        TOR
        Hyman, Zach
        2 250 000 $
        AG, AD
        NTC
        UFA - 1
        TOR
        Matthews, Auston
        11 640 250 $
        C
        UFA - 4
        TOR
        Marner, Mitchell
        10 903 000 $
        AD
        UFA - 5
        TOR
        Mikheyev, Ilya
        1 645 000 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 2
        TOR
        Tavares, John
        11 000 000 $
        C
        NMC
        UFA - 5
        TOR
        Nylander, William
        6 962 366 $
        AD, AG
        UFA - 4
        TOR
        Engvall, Pierre
        1 250 000 $
        AG, C
        RFA - 2
        TOR
        Kerfoot, Alexander
        3 500 000 $
        C, AG
        UFA - 3
        TOR
        Simmonds, Wayne
        1 500 000 $
        AD, AG
        NTC
        UFA - 1
        TOR
        Thornton, Joe
        700 000 $
        C, AG
        NMC
        UFA - 1
        TOR
        Spezza, Jason
        700 000 $
        C, AD
        UFA - 1
        TOR
        Sabourin, Scott
        700 000 $
        AD
        UFA - 1
        Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
        TOR
        Muzzin, Jake
        5 625 000 $
        DG
        NMC
        UFA - 4
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        Brodie, TJ
        5 000 000 $
        DD
        NMC
        UFA - 4
        TOR
        Campbell, Jack
        1 650 000 $
        G
        UFA - 2
        TOR
        Rielly, Morgan
        5 000 000 $
        DG
        NTC
        UFA - 2
        TOR
        Holl, Justin
        2 000 000 $
        DD
        NTC
        UFA - 3
        TOR
        Hutchinson, Michael
        725 000 $
        G
        UFA - 2
        TOR
        Dermott, Travis
        874 125 $
        DG/DD
        RFA - 1
        TOR
        Bogosian, Zach
        1 000 000 $
        DD
        NTC
        UFA - 1
        TOR
        Liljegren, Timothy
        863 333 $
        DD
        RFA - 2
        Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
        TOR
        Andersen, Frederik
        5 000 000 $
        G
        NTC
        UFA - 1
        CAR
        Reimer, James
        3 400 000 $
        G
        UFA - 1
        CHI
        Lankinen, Kevin
        800 000 $
        G
        UFA - 2
        PHI
        Hart, Carter
        730 833 $
        G
        RFA - 1
        Équipe de réserve
        TOR
        Galchenyuk, Alex
        1 050 000 $ (0 $)
        AG, C, AD
        UFA - 1
        TOR
        Barabanov, Alexander
        925 000 $ (0 $)
        AD, AG
        UFA - 1
        TOR
        Vehvilainen, Veini
        925 000 $ (0 $)
        G
        UFA - 1
        TOR
        Robertson, Nicholas
        821 667 $ (0 $)
        AG
        RFA - 4
        TOR
        Hollowell, Mac
        799 766 $ (0 $)
        DD
        RFA - 2

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        29 mar à 13 h 56
        #1
        Leafs Sufferer
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        You're about to get blasted by sensitive Flyers fans any second now.
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        29 mar à 13 h 57
        #2
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        Hart and Lankinen aren't going anywhere
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        29 mar à 13 h 58
        #3
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        That doesn’t really make any sense for the Hawks and frankly I don’t think the value is there.
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        29 mar à 13 h 59
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        Flyers counter with Nolan for Matthews
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        29 mar à 13 h 59
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        Why would we trade our younger, better, less expensive goalie of the future to you for Anderson and a 2nd? You guys can have Subban for Freddy and a 2nd.
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        29 mar à 14 h 00
        #6
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        Why would Lankinen be ‘cheap’?
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        29 mar à 14 h 04
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        Brian Elliott and Nolan Patrick for Mitch Marner
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        29 mar à 14 h 04
        #8
        exo2769
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        Lankinen is 2nd in the entire NHL in GSAA only behind Vasilevskiy. He's also under contract next year for $800k so it's not like he's even a pending UFA.

        https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?stdoi=g
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        29 mar à 14 h 05
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        Quoting: Ritzy
        You're about to get blasted by sensitive Flyers fans any second now.


        It's not being sensitive...pretty sure you wouldn't trade a franchise goalie for scraps either.
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        29 mar à 14 h 05
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        Quoting: Caniac555
        Why would Lankinen be ‘cheap’?


        The OP says he could be a cheap option, then immediately compares him to binnington. Perhaps he means cheap in money? Another interesting and cheap goalie from the hawks is Subban!
        29 mar à 14 h 12
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        Quoting: Caniac555
        Why would Lankinen be ‘cheap’?


        Quoting: Stan_Bowman
        The OP says he could be a cheap option, then immediately compares him to binnington. Perhaps he means cheap in money? Another interesting and cheap goalie from the hawks is Subban!


        Definitely meant cheap as a cap hit.
        Binnington to me, was good for the cup run then proceeded to tank and lose his confidence this season.
        You could say that Freddie is worth a 2nd. Then it would be 2x 2nd for Lankinen, who's a relatively unproven guy.
        Probably wouldn't do a deal for Subban, since he's been moved around a ton for scraps. Maybe if we wanted Hutch back in the AHL, we could do like a 4th/5th but at that point it isn't really worth to the Hawks
        29 mar à 14 h 16
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        Quoting: DirtyDangles
        Brian Elliott and Nolan Patrick for Mitch Marner


        Quoting: DirtyDangles
        It's not being sensitive...pretty sure you wouldn't trade a franchise goalie for scraps either.


        Maybe I'd do Elliott and Patrick for Matthews. Not a big fan of Matthews and having an extra capable puck stopper is always nice.

        Wouldn't call Freddie (~2nd pick value), a 1st (could be 2022 if you wanted a stronger draft year), and Amirov (A-/B+ wing prospect that could replace Voracek in a few years), "scraps".

        Like I understand Hart can be a very capable goalie. But he's struggling, and the system around him seems to be failing as well. Could be nice for him to get a change of scenery
        29 mar à 14 h 17
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        Quoting: AnalyticalGM
        Hart and Lankinen aren't going anywhere


        Gonna have to agree with that. Typical fan mentality. These are the goalies I want and I don’t care if they’re for sake.

        Ullmark and one of the goalies from Arizona, bernier and maybe khudobin would be better targets.
        29 mar à 14 h 19
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        Quoting: jmac490
        Maybe I'd do Elliott and Patrick for Matthews. Not a big fan of Matthews and having an extra capable puck stopper is always nice.

        Wouldn't call Freddie (~2nd pick value), a 1st (could be 2022 if you wanted a stronger draft year), and Amirov (A-/B+ wing prospect that could replace Voracek in a few years), "scraps".

        Like I understand Hart can be a very capable goalie. But he's struggling, and the system around him seems to be failing as well. Could be nice for him to get a change of scenery


        Hart is still a franchise goalie. Not many goalies play in the NHL at his age. Just because the team is playing like absolute trash in front of him does not mean we are going to just sell him off.

        Andersen is a UFA, no use for the Flyers. Amirov is a prospect and nothing more right now. And that 1st is likely to be a later round 1st so the value isn't high.
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        29 mar à 14 h 22
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        Quoting: jmac490
        Definitely meant cheap as a cap hit.
        Binnington to me, was good for the cup run then proceeded to tank and lose his confidence this season.
        You could say that Freddie is worth a 2nd. Then it would be 2x 2nd for Lankinen, who's a relatively unproven guy.
        Probably wouldn't do a deal for Subban, since he's been moved around a ton for scraps. Maybe if we wanted Hutch back in the AHL, we could do like a 4th/5th but at that point it isn't really worth to the Hawks


        I would trade Subban for a 4th... as for your talk about binnington and lank, it's conjecture at best. Freddy isn't worth a 2nd because of his play this season, his contract status, and the fact that no contender will pay a 2nd for him at the deadline. Lank has proven himself a starter im my book, and until his play says otherwise he's the guy in Chicago.
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        29 mar à 14 h 25
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        Quoting: Jamiepo
        Gonna have to agree with that. Typical fan mentality. These are the goalies I want and I don’t care if they’re for sake.

        Ullmark and one of the goalies from Arizona, bernier and maybe khudobin would be better targets.


        Ullmark is injured, as are Raannta and Kuemper, I like Bernier. I would get Bernier. And I'm not sure about Dobby
        29 mar à 14 h 27
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        Quoting: Stan_Bowman
        I would trade Subban for a 4th... as for your talk about binnington and lank, it's conjecture at best. Freddy isn't worth a 2nd because of his play this season, his contract status, and the fact that no contender will pay a 2nd for him at the deadline. Lank has proven himself a starter im my book, and until his play says otherwise he's the guy in Chicago.


        That's fair.
        Just for arguments sake, if we are purely looking at this season alone, what would you say the cost of Khudobin would be? Or Bernier? Or Reimer?
        29 mar à 14 h 27
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        Until we know the full extent of Freddies injury I just dont think were gonna see a goalie trade and if there was one its probs gonna be for 1 of the Carolina goalies as they did say they would move one for a RD.

        So unless Freddie goes on LTIR and is expected to be injured till the playoffs I just dont see a big goaltending move happening.

        At best we could hear Toronto traded a 6th round pick or something and bring in Forsberg from Ottawa but thats only if Hutchinson continues to struggle, heck the guy we got from Columbus (despite having the one bad game) could get a look
        29 mar à 14 h 32
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        Quoting: jmac490
        That's fair.
        Just for arguments sake, if we are purely looking at this season alone, what would you say the cost of Khudobin would be? Or Bernier? Or Reimer?


        I have been conditioned to expect lesser returns for goalies, if Lehner at half x half retained got a prospect, 2nd, roster player goalie back then I would guess that's the upper limit of value for those guys.
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        29 mar à 14 h 48
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        Quoting: aadoyle
        Until we know the full extent of Freddies injury I just dont think were gonna see a goalie trade and if there was one its probs gonna be for 1 of the Carolina goalies as they did say they would move one for a RD.

        So unless Freddie goes on LTIR and is expected to be injured till the playoffs I just dont see a big goaltending move happening.

        At best we could hear Toronto traded a 6th round pick or something and bring in Forsberg from Ottawa but thats only if Hutchinson continues to struggle, heck the guy we got from Columbus (despite having the one bad game) could get a look


        Unfortunately we really don't have a RHD to move to Carolina for on of their G. Unless they wanted Dermott for Reimer? That way we could play Sandin (or god forbid Marincin), after Sandin's injury is healed up
        29 mar à 14 h 48
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        Quoting: jmac490
        Ullmark is injured, as are Raannta and Kuemper, I like Bernier. I would get Bernier. And I'm not sure about Dobby


        Did he get hurt last game? He was back in net for the Boston game. Raanta I didn’t realize was hurt again. Unless they fall further they won’t be moving a goalie.

        In any case leafs will go with Andersen if he will be back this season. If his season is over they may move him or throw him on ltir. Deadline cap implications will dictate.
        29 mar à 14 h 49
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        Quoting: Stan_Bowman
        I have been conditioned to expect lesser returns for goalies, if Lehner at half x half retained got a prospect, 2nd, roster player goalie back then I would guess that's the upper limit of value for those guys.


        If Bernier at 25% gets a 2nd + Prospect + Roster Goalie I would be shocked. Good on Stevie Y though if he could pull that off
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        29 mar à 14 h 49
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        Quoting: Jamiepo
        Did he get hurt last game? He was back in net for the Boston game. Raanta I didn’t realize was hurt again. Unless they fall further they won’t be moving a goalie.

        In any case leafs will go with Andersen if he will be back this season. If his season is over they may move him or throw him on ltir. Deadline cap implications will dictate.


        I thought he was out. Last I checked (couple days ago) all 3 of the goalies were injured. Could be wrong with Ullmark though.
        29 mar à 14 h 53
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        Quoting: jmac490
        If Bernier at 25% gets a 2nd + Prospect + Roster Goalie I would be shocked. Good on Stevie Y though if he could pull that off


        I agree they won't pull of Lehner value, but Vegas shocked everyone last season.
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        29 mar à 15 h 07
        #25
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        Quoting: jmac490
        Unfortunately we really don't have a RHD to move to Carolina for on of their G. Unless they wanted Dermott for Reimer? That way we could play Sandin (or god forbid Marincin), after Sandin's injury is healed up


        In my book, Dermott is not for trade this season unless a replacement comes back the other way. because the you’d put Sandin in the lineup. Now you’re 1 or 2 injuries away from Marincin.... it’s not good depth.
        And teams tend to lose, on average, one player to injury per round I believe.

        Dermott can go to Seattle in the off-season for all I care, he’s out best bet at Seattle not taking anyone too important
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