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Eichel trade that works

Créé par: OutCold13
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 26 mars 2021
Publié: 26 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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This in my opinion is the only Eichel trade that works for the Wild. Even then it is tough to make the cap work, making it very unlikely. I realize I have given Cole and Hartman low-ball contracts. Hartman I've heard loves it in Minnesota so maybe he gives Wild a sweetheart deal but Wild will have to let Hartman hit FA because he would have arbitration rights otherwise. Cole I'm hoping just likes Minnesota and takes a low number.
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Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Frost, Morgan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
Can be Frost or Patrick.
PHI
  1. Dumba, Matt
Détails additionnels:
Fletcher realizes his defensive core doesn't work so he moves to fix his backend with a guy he knows.
This trade takes place before expansion draft.
2.
MIN
  1. Eichel, Jack
Détails additionnels:
This trade takes place at the entry draft, giving Sabres more time to convince Eichel to rescind his trade demand.
BUF
  1. Greenway, Jordan
  2. Rask, Victor
  3. Rossi, Marco
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Rask is a bit of a cap balancer but worth taking for Sabres given his history with Skinner.
3.
MIN
    The Wild protect: Zuccarello, Parise, Suter, Brodin, Spurgeon, Ek, Fiala, Foligno, Greenway, Sturm, Kahkonen. This leaves Rask, Hartman, Soucy, and Talbot exposed possibly Bjugstad if he is willing to re-sign for vet minimum.
    BUF
    1. Soucy, Carson
    Détails additionnels:
    Selected by Kraken
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    26 mars 2021 à 21 h 52
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    Rossi's a nice prospect and all but that doesnt get you Eichel. Buffalo could have taken Rossi if they were that high on him
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    26 mars 2021 à 21 h 54
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    Lol what?
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    26 mars 2021 à 21 h 56
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    Quoting: Flabber
    Rossi's a nice prospect and all but that doesnt get you Eichel. Buffalo could have taken Rossi if they were that high on him


    Doesn't mean they didn't want Rossi just preferred Quinn.
    26 mars 2021 à 21 h 58
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    Lol what?


    You like the offer, I can tell. It's in line with the 4 first or equivalent rumored ask.
    26 mars 2021 à 21 h 58
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Lol what?


    If he changed the 2nd to another 1st would it be good?

    3 1sts
    Rossi who was just drafted in the first
    Greenway who is a great middle six guy
    Rask is over priced but has been decent this year.

    I think that’s a pretty good package and probably the best that would get offered to be honest
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    26 mars 2021 à 22 h 18
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    Jack hasn’t asked for a trade. He’s not asking for a trade until he has a NMC.
    26 mars 2021 à 22 h 31
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    Jack hasn’t asked for a trade. He’s not asking for a trade until he has a NMC.


    Where there is smoke there is fire no matter what everyone says.
    26 mars 2021 à 22 h 31
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    Quoting: Flabber
    Rossi's a nice prospect and all but that doesnt get you Eichel. Buffalo could have taken Rossi if they were that high on him


    Quoting: OutCold13
    Doesn't mean they didn't want Rossi just preferred Quinn.


    Ive seen this "they could have drafted Rossi if they wanted him" argument so many times and it is such a bad argument. That's like saying New Jersey could have drafted Pettersson instead of Hischier. They liked Hischier more at the draft. Doesn't mean they wouldn't have loved to have both.
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    26 mars 2021 à 22 h 47
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    Jack hasn’t asked for a trade. He’s not asking for a trade until he has a NMC.


    Because he's afraid he may be traded somewhere worse? rofl
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    26 mars 2021 à 22 h 49
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    Because he's afraid he may be traded somewhere worse? rofl

    That could be a concern going to another bad team or another team that’s rebuilding.
    26 mars 2021 à 23 h 21
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    This is well done and interesting but just falls off at the Eichel deal there's gotta be more quality & certainty heading back Buffalo's way especially atm

    Rossi has only played a single D+1 game so far

    Relatively little evidence to conclude his ability
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    26 mars 2021 à 23 h 34
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    Sabres decline
    This offer will get easily beat
    26 mars 2021 à 23 h 54
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    Quoting: NYR1983
    If he changed the 2nd to another 1st would it be good?

    3 1sts
    Rossi who was just drafted in the first
    Greenway who is a great middle six guy
    Rask is over priced but has been decent this year.

    I think that’s a pretty good package and probably the best that would get offered to be honest


    Draft picks are the least interesting return imaginable
    27 mars 2021 à 0 h 11
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Draft picks are the least interesting return imaginable


    Fair opinion I guess, however if Sabres trade Eichel they will likely suck next year and Shane Wright is at the end of that tanking rainbow.
    27 mars 2021 à 0 h 14
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Draft picks are the least interesting return imaginable


    I’m curious who do you see offering more. It’s not the Rangers. If it’s not LA than what other team could even pull off such a trade.
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    27 mars 2021 à 0 h 15
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    I’m curious who do you see offering more. It’s not the Rangers. If it’s not LA than what other team could even pull off such a trade.


    I dont see him moving
    27 mars 2021 à 0 h 16
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    I dont see him moving


    Me neither. The market isn’t there in terms of viable trade partners and those willing to spend what Buffalo see’s as fair value for him.
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    27 mars 2021 à 1 h 42
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    No thx. I think it would be two best prospects and two 1st or two best prospects, a solid player from the squad and one 1st. I would prefer the second option due to the fact that we are not very good at the draft.
    27 mars 2021 à 8 h 1
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    Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
    Me neither. The market isn’t there in terms of viable trade partners and those willing to spend what Buffalo see’s as fair value for him.


    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Draft picks are the least interesting return imaginable


    Maybe a team like CGY would be a good fit. They aren’t achieving what we all expected so Gaudreau and Monahan and B prospect might fit the bill of getting roster players and a prospect instead of picks
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    27 mars 2021 à 9 h 6
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    Quoting: Sabres923
    That could be a concern going to another bad team or another team that’s rebuilding.


    Any team in the NHL would be an upgrade over being on the Sabres. Even Detroit or Ottawa because both have reasons to be optimistic for the future. Buffalo has been rebuilding for a decade and isn't any closer to doing anything than they were 10 years ago.
    27 mars 2021 à 10 h 37
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    Quoting: JayTea
    Any team in the NHL would be an upgrade over being on the Sabres. Even Detroit or Ottawa because both have reasons to be optimistic for the future. Buffalo has been rebuilding for a decade and isn't any closer to doing anything than they were 10 years ago.

    He doesn’t want to wait anymore. Buffalo wouldn’t trade him to an inner division teams anyway.
    27 mars 2021 à 19 h 42
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    None of these sabres fans would never be happy unless they get McDavid and a 1st. It’s a joke to see the comments.
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    27 mars 2021 à 20 h 1
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    Quoting: Lightman13
    None of these sabres fans would never be happy unless they get McDavid and a 1st. It’s a joke to see the comments.


    It hasn't been easy for them. Have pitty. I mean if they trade Eichel, or if they don't, doesn't matter the Sabres will continue to suck and the way I see it they want a number of picks in 2022 to make sure they get the best shot possible for Shane Wright. My understanding is he is the best prospect since McDavid so it's really the best they can hope for.
    They have their hearts set on Kakko, lafreniere and 2 firsts. Or Byfield plus 2 more of the kings top prospects and a 1st. I don't see either team giving that up.
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    27 mars 2021 à 20 h 19
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    Quoting: OutCold13
    It hasn't been easy for them. Have pitty. I mean if they trade Eichel, or if they don't, doesn't matter the Sabres will continue to suck and the way I see it they want a number of picks in 2022 to make sure they get the best shot possible for Shane Wright. My understanding is he is the best prospect since McDavid so it's really the best they can hope for.
    They have their hearts set on Kakko, lafreniere and 2 firsts. Or Byfield plus 2 more of the kings top prospects and a 1st. I don't see either team giving that up.


    Nope neither of those teams will give it up. Their truly best bet is a trade with the wild. Wild have solid goaltending, great d and a sweet top9 wing core with skill, grit and a selke finalist 2C in jee. their missing piece is a top line C. That would turn the wild into contenders for the foreseeable future. Probably the team eichel looks at for the best possibility.
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    27 mars 2021 à 20 h 24
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    Quoting: Lightman13
    Nope neither of those teams will give it up. Their truly best bet is a trade with the wild. Wild have solid goaltending, great d and a sweet top9 wing core with skill, grit and a selke finalist 2C in jee. their missing piece is a top line C. That would turn the wild into contenders for the foreseeable future. Probably the team eichel looks at for the best possibility.


    Totally agree but like I discovered putting this together the Money is tough to make work. So hopefully Guerin has better answers than I do.
     
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