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Créé par: Wadejos123
Équipe: 2020-21 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 23 mars 2021
Publié: 23 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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ARI
  1. Barratt, Evan
  2. Regula, Alec
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CHI)
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CHI
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. Roussel, Antoine
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
3.
CHI
  1. Ladd, Andrew
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
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CHI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
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CHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
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23 mars 2021 à 13 h 58
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I like garland but thats an overpay no? If we're taking 9 mil for 2 years for Van dont think we should be giving up anything of value maybe like an ahler and a fifth. Everything else is on point tho.
23 mars 2021 à 13 h 59
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I like garland but thats an overpay no? If we're taking 9 mil for 2 years for Van dont think we should be giving up anything of value maybe like an ahler and a fifth. Everything else is on point tho.


No I don't think it is. I actually think AZ will want more. In the grand scheme...Regula and Barrett aren't THAT high of prospects. Yes, they're decent, but AZ will want TOP prospects. Something like Boqvist and the 1st. Garland is really good.
23 mars 2021 à 14 h 5
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No I don't think it is. I actually think AZ will want more. In the grand scheme...Regula and Barrett aren't THAT high of prospects. Yes, they're decent, but AZ will want TOP prospects. Something like Boqvist and the 1st. Garland is really good.


So theyre not A+ prospects but theyre at least B and we're giving up 2 of them so thats about equal to an A+ prospect (in value) and we're giving up high first and and a third? So its like giving up 2 firsts and a third for him. Maybe im missing something but it looks like an overpay to me.
23 mars 2021 à 14 h 13
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So theyre not A+ prospects but theyre at least B and we're giving up 2 of them so thats about equal to an A+ prospect (in value) and we're giving up high first and and a third? So its like giving up 2 firsts and a third for him. Maybe im missing something but it looks like an overpay to me.


No, quality > quantity. That math doesn't add up like that. How about 7 fringe AHLers?
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No, quality > quantity. That math doesn't add up like that. How about 7 fringe AHLers?


What would you say Barratt and Regula are worth on their own? Seconds? Thirds? Less?
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I like garland but thats an overpay no? If we're taking 9 mil for 2 years for Van dont think we should be giving up anything of value maybe like an ahler and a fifth. Everything else is on point tho.


that van pick is like 10th OA though
23 mars 2021 à 14 h 44
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that van pick is like 10th OA though


If we're taking on the risk and money just seems like we shouldnt give back anything that has a lot of value. Probably just being too greedy. A second to a 10th-15th OA shouldnt be something to turn your nose up at.
23 mars 2021 à 14 h 52
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What would you say Barratt and Regula are worth on their own? Seconds? Thirds? Less?


Hard to say something exact. Let me give two examples...Would I rather have a Landon Slaggert or Evan Barrett...I'm liking the upside that Slaggert brings right now. Almost a ppg player in the NCAA as a true freshman...that's a great start. He was a 3rd rounder.

BUT on the flip side...

Statistics would tell you that a 3rd round pick has roughly a 25% chance of being an NHL talent.

I mention statistics because I went back between 2006 and 2016 and wanted to see how many players in the 3rd round actually had 100 games played. That allows all these prospects 5 years or more to develop into "NHL Talent"... NHL talent meaning just 100 games. zero goals...ok zero assists...ok did you play 100 games? If Yes, you're NHL talent. If No, you're not. 88 players had 100 games out of 335 picks is 26% chance that any 3rd rounds has a chance to be an NHLer.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/draft/NHL_2016_entry.html
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Hard to say something exact. Let me give two examples...Would I rather have a Landon Slaggert or Evan Barrett...I'm liking the upside that Slaggert brings right now. Almost a ppg player in the NCAA as a true freshman...that's a great start. He was a 3rd rounder.

BUT on the flip side...

Statistics would tell you that a 3rd round pick has roughly a 25% chance of being an NHL talent.

I mention statistics because I went back between 2006 and 2016 and wanted to see how many players in the 3rd round actually had 100 games played. That allows all these prospects 5 years or more to develop into "NHL Talent"... NHL talent meaning just 100 games. zero goals...ok zero assists...ok did you play 100 games? If Yes, you're NHL talent. If No, you're not. 88 players had 100 games out of 335 picks is 26% chance that any 3rd rounds has a chance to be an NHLer.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/draft/NHL_2016_entry.html


Firstly I appreciate how much work and thought you put into this. However, just because 3rd rounders have an ~25% chance of becoming something, that something has varying levels of success. Theres always a chance those 3rds will become nothing or replacement level players but theres also a chance those picks will not only match their value but exceed it like the Brayden Points, Brett Pesces, and Jake Guentzels of the world. Not saying Regula or Barratt will be of that caliber but the prospects value is the perceived max ceiling they have. To me Regula has top 4 potential and Barratt has middle 6 potential but they might well fall flat of that evaluation or be better. How this relates back to Conor Garland, I believe we're giving up too much quality and quantity in this trade. The amount we're giving up is the cost of a near top end player for a guy thats probably top 6 at best, only shown signs of that this season and is already 25. I can see us giving up pieces of this trade like regula and a first or something but everything else is just overkill imo.
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