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Just thinking about something a bit different

Créé par: Anus_McLeod
Date de création initiale: mar 23, 2021
Publié: 23 mar à 13 h 33
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Explications
Not too sure about the trade (tempted to have Colorado include a 3rd or something) but all of a sudden became intrigued by Ekholm. Guessing this doesn't make sense to most, but damn does that D look insane and more playoff ready. Also figured it would be something to discuss.
Transactions
COL
  1. Ekholm, Mattias (1 750 000 $ retained)
NSH
  1. Compher, J.T.
  2. Timmins, Conor
  3. Kaut, Martin
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Ian Cole: 800 000 $ (19%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
COL
COL
COL
COL
2022
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
2023
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $71 695 554 $0 $5 000 000 $9 804 446 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
COL
Landeskog, Gabriel
5 571 429 $
AG, C
NTC
UFA - 1
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
6 300 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
9 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
COL
Saad, Brandon
5 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
COL
Kadri, Nazem
4 500 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
COL
Burakovsky, André
4 900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
COL
Jost, Tyson
874 125 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
COL
Donskoi, Joonas
3 900 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
COL
Calvert, Matt
2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
COL
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
1 800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
COL
O'Connor, Logan
725 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
COL
Toews, Devon
4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
COL
Makar, Cale
880 833 $
DD
RFA - 1
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 1
NSH
Ekholm, Mattias
2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
COL
Girard, Samuel
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 7
COL
Johansson, Jonas
700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
COL
Byram, Bowen
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 3
COL
Graves, Ryan
3 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
COL
MacDonald, Jacob
725 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
COL
Johnson, Erik
6 000 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Sherwood, Kiefer
750 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
COL
Francouz, Pavel
2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
COL
Pateryn, Greg
2 250 000 $ (1 175 000 $)
DD
UFA - 1
COL
Werner, Adam
842 500 $ (0 $)
G
RFA - 1
COL
Renouf, Daniel
700 000 $ (0 $)
DG
UFA - 1
COL
Megna, Jayson
700 000 $ (0 $)
AD
UFA - 1

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23 mar à 18 h 29
#26
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
I'm not sure anyone looking to make trades now would be in that spot. Maybe Winnipeg. I'm not sure they beat the offer though. Maybe they give up their first, but what's more valuable today, a guy in Timmins or Kaut that has shown at the NHL level, or a first in a draft you can't scout like you want to due to the pandemic?

Maybe I'm off, but I think it's a decent offer and comparable to the Muzzin trade.


Winnipeg could offer their 1st + Vesalainen + Samberg which blows Kaut + Timmins + Compher out of the water.
23 mar à 18 h 31
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Ya, I know. But when losing a guy like Ryan Graves is a best case scenario (which I agree it would be), you're in trouble.


It's not a best case scenario. Best case would be Seattle taking Compher.

Worst case would probably be if the took O'Connor as we could do with his cheap contract next year.
23 mar à 18 h 36
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I agree Nashville won't want expansion draft eligble players. Rasmus Sandin for Ekholm isn't bad, but if Nashville wants more than Rasmus, it should be a no. Liljgren plus could also work.

While the idea of Ekholm to Colorado is good in theory, it doesn't make much sense because he or Devon Toews, or a valuable forward (Landy, Bura, Kadri) would go to the Kraken, and that's provided Johnson waives (if not the avs have a major mess on their hands).


Avs don't have a major mess on their hands even if EJ doesn't waive.

They can go 4+4 and expose Burakovsky, who only has 1 year to UFA anyways. It would be a loss, but that $4.9m could be used to resign Saad instead of letting him walk in UFA. Newhook and Ranta can get opportunities in camp to take Bura's spot too.

Alternatively you just simply buy EJ out. It would be annoying to have $2m in dead space for 4 years, but that $4m can ho towards resigning Saad again.
23 mar à 18 h 42
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Quoting: Richard88
It's not a best case scenario. Best case would be Seattle taking Compher.

Worst case would probably be if the took O'Connor as we could do with his cheap contract next year.


Quoting: Richard88
Avs don't have a major mess on their hands even if EJ doesn't waive.

They can go 4+4 and expose Burakovsky, who only has 1 year to UFA anyways. It would be a loss, but that $4.9m could be used to resign Saad instead of letting him walk in UFA. Newhook and Ranta can get opportunities in camp to take Bura's spot too.

Alternatively you just simply buy EJ out. It would be annoying to have $2m in dead space for 4 years, but that $4m can ho towards resigning Saad again.


Oh, I didn't realize Burakovsky only had 1 year left on his contract. My bad. In that case the avs should certainly consider exposing him, if EJ doesn't waive.
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23 mar à 18 h 53
#30
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
On the expansion draft, I really don't think that's a reason not to do this. In either case, the result is essentially the same:

Johnson waives: Seattle picks between Graves, Donskoi, Jost (and now Ekholm). Let's say they pick one of Graves and Ekholm. Well, you still have one of them and can either keep them or trade them to recover some assets.

Johnson doesn't waive: Seattle picks between the above, as well as Jost and Burakovsky. You still get to keep a player you wouldn't have otherwise.

So the whole don't do it because of the xdraft doesn't add up.


That was more of a sidetrack onto why Avs fans aren't worried about it as it stands. The main argument to not doing it is still relevant though, it's more that you open up more options to Seattle.
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23 mar à 19 h 25
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Quoting: TJTwolf
That was more of a sidetrack onto why Avs fans aren't worried about it as it stands. The main argument to not doing it is still relevant though, it's more that you open up more options to Seattle.


You don't though because you don't protect Ekholm. If they take him then so be it. Then the Avs still have Graves and got Ekholm for a run. If they still take Graves then the Avs have Ekholm for one more year.

Edit: you can almost think of it as Compher, Kaut, Timmins and a 3rd for a year of Ekholm and Graves, since the result of the xdraft is no longer losing Graves.

Folks pushed back on my Devon Toews proposal for the same reason.
 
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