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    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 23
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    thats a really poor return for brannstrom, dont think dorion will be contempt turning mark stone into mrazek and sokolov
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    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 23
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    I'd love Jarvis in NSH, but the UFAs don't really have any value to the Preds. Just Jarvis isn't enough.
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    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 25
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    Quoting: gmgb
    I'd love Jarvis in NSH, but the UFAs don't really have any value to the Preds. Just Jarvis isn't enough.


    13 oa prospect for 1.5 years of a forward who wont return is a pretty good price for them
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 25
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    Quoting: gmgb
    I'd love Jarvis in NSH, but the UFAs don't really have any value to the Preds. Just Jarvis isn't enough.


    Jarvis is an OVERPAY! At 19 he was the top scorer in the AHL during his stint there. Forsberg never showed that kind of promise. That is NOT worth it for Carolina. Anything that starts with Jarvis for Forsberg should be laughed away by Waddell.
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 27
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Jarvis is an OVERPAY! At 19 he was the top scorer in the AHL during his stint there. Forsberg never showed that kind of promise. That is NOT worth it for Carolina. Anything that starts with Jarvis for Forsberg should be laughed away by Waddell.


    forsberg has been PPG (or right near it) in the NHL multiple times lol, career 60 point NHLers arent cheap
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    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 32
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    Quoting: Borocop
    forsberg has been PPG (or right near it) in the NHL multiple times lol, career 60 point NHLers arent cheap


    1.5 years of forsberg is good and jarvis should be enough cuz he is a blue chip prospect so for 1.5 years of a player who wont return to Nashville is plenty. maybe another prospect but it should be enough for forsberg
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    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 33
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    Ottawa counters with Matt Murray for Marty Necas. Why in a million years would Ottawa trade Brannstrom for Mr. Inconsistent
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 37
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Ottawa counters with Matt Murray for Marty Necas. Why in a million years would Ottawa trade Brannstrom for Mr. Inconsistent


    it is proven that ottawa doesn't utilize him and mrazek will be their best goalie. canes maybe add a pick or a prospect but bannstrom isn't being used right in ottawa
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 37
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    Quoting: Borocop
    forsberg has been PPG (or right near it) in the NHL multiple times lol, career 60 point NHLers arent cheap


    1.5 years of them are LOL
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 37
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Ottawa counters with Matt Murray for Marty Necas. Why in a million years would Ottawa trade Brannstrom for Mr. Inconsistent


    so inconsistent that was 0.99 GAA and .955%sv before injury lol
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 39
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    Quoting: Hurricanes73
    13 oa prospect for 1.5 years of a forward who wont return is a pretty good price for them


    Won't return? What does that mean? He's not even a UFA.

    It's not like a 13th OA pick is guaranteed not to bust or anything. It'd be foolish to trade a star player for a single prospect. That's a huge amount of risk for NSH, and while Jarvis looks very promising the odds of him maybe being as good as Forsberg someday are quite slim. That's not a knock against Jarvis - that's just because of the unpredictability of prospects in general.
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    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 41
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    1.5 years of them are LOL


    then just re-sign him hes 26, nashville probably wont trade him for less
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 42
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    Quoting: gmgb
    Won't return? What does that mean? He's not even a UFA.

    It's not like a 13th OA pick is guaranteed not to bust or anything. It'd be foolish to trade a star player for a single prospect. That's a huge amount of risk for NSH, and while Jarvis looks very promising the odds of him maybe being as good as Forsberg someday are quite slim. That's not a knock against Jarvis - that's just because of the unpredictability of prospects in general.


    The ol “this prospect will definitely be better than that already proven NHLer and I know this for fact”
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    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 42
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    Quoting: gmgb
    Won't return? What does that mean? He's not even a UFA.

    It's not like a 13th OA pick is guaranteed not to bust or anything. It'd be foolish to trade a star player for a single prospect. That's a huge amount of risk for NSH, and while Jarvis looks very promising the odds of him maybe being as good as Forsberg someday are quite slim. That's not a knock against Jarvis - that's just because of the unpredictability of prospects in general.


    Forsberg returning. he is also comfortable with Nashville prospects so it isn't much of a scenery shift for him. look at how he was tearing up the AHL as a 19 year old and imagine him as a 20/21 year old in the NHL. he has proven himself on every level except the NHL.
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 42
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Jarvis is an OVERPAY! At 19 he was the top scorer in the AHL during his stint there. Forsberg never showed that kind of promise. That is NOT worth it for Carolina. Anything that starts with Jarvis for Forsberg should be laughed away by Waddell.


    Daniel Carr also lead the AHL once

    I like Jarvis and I do think he will be a very good player. But AHL success doesn’t guarantee anything
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    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 42
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    then just re-sign him hes 26, nashville probably wont trade him for less


    No guarantee he would want to re-sign. You pay for the term and the deal involved. Not for the extension that you could maybe sign him to.
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 43
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    Daniel Carr also lead the AHL once


    At 19? No. So why is that important?
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 43
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    Quoting: grodziQ
    so inconsistent that was 0.99 GAA and .955%sv before injury lol


    Yeah he can be good. But you don't know what you're getting year in year out. He hasn't strung two good years together in like 6 years. I'd take him over Matt Murray in a heartbeat, but I wouldn't move Brannstrom for him. Also Ottawa have enough young options for a backup that adding a goalie isn't in the cards.
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 46
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    Quoting: jl639s
    The ol “this prospect will definitely be better than that already proven NHLer and I know this for fact”


    I'm not saying that. I'm saying that forsbergs value is quickly diminishing as the games go by and his value will keep falling before Nashville trades him. not cuz he is bad but cuz he wont have term. if he had 3 years then yes way more but cuz he doesn't have term he isn't worth an extended forward of his caliber.
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 47
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    it is proven that ottawa doesn't utilize him and mrazek will be their best goalie. canes maybe add a pick or a prospect but bannstrom isn't being used right in ottawa


    Brannstrom is going to be fine long term. He plays well. Got no concerns on that front, even if him being scratched is infuriating. It won't last.
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    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 47
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    At 19? No. So why is that important?


    What does age have to do with it. The point is AHL success and NHL success are not always a direct correlation. Same with KHL, NCAA, etc
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 49
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    End of the day, value is made up and fluctuates. Value is what someone is willing to pay. No one on the board knows what a GM is willing to pay for better chance at a cup or 2.

    Washington once paid for a declining Martin Erat who was a rental and demanded to be traded with a Filip Forsberg.
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 51
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    Quoting: Hurricanes73
    Forsberg returning. he is also comfortable with Nashville prospects so it isn't much of a scenery shift for him. look at how he was tearing up the AHL as a 19 year old and imagine him as a 20/21 year old in the NHL. he has proven himself on every level except the NHL.


    Yeah I understand that you're talking about Forsberg not returning, but where are you getting that from?

    Nine games in a weakened AHL (the taxi squad situation this year robs the AHL of ton of players who would normally be there) is a pretty insignificant sample size. I wouldn't start work on Jarvis' HHOF plaque just yet.
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    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 52
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    Quoting: gmgb
    Yeah I understand that you're talking about Forsberg not returning, but where are you getting that from?

    Nine games in a weakened AHL (the taxi squad situation this year robs the AHL of ton of players who would normally be there) is a pretty insignificant sample size. I wouldn't start work on Jarvis' HHOF plaque just yet.


    i know what u mean but Nashville is shopping forsberg which means he definitely does not want to return. the fact that there r so many forsberg rumors is proof he prolly wont resign
    15 mars 2021 à 18 h 53
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    Canes perspective:

    1st Trade: We don't need Gibson, so, NO
    2nd Trade: Don't wanna give up Petr but who's complaining with that offer, YES
    3rd Trade: I was hoping only a 3rd for E. Staal but I wouldn't hate a 2nd, MEH
    4th Trade: Get out of town. Not a CHANCE we are trading Jarvy. He has already risen up the rank from his draft position and Is just... Insane. Especially not for a year or 2 of Forsberg. HARD NO.

    So... I wouldn't trade for Gibson. I wouldn't trade away Mrazek. A bit much for Staal. And we are not in any circumstance trading Jarvis.
     
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