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Rantanen to center - Gibson and Rakell

Créé par: Richard88
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 14 mars 2021
Publié: 14 mars 2021
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Just playing with the idea of moving Rantanen to C. Doing that opens up a lot of options as there are more hood top 6 wingers available, and also makes it more viable to have Newhook available in trade talks.
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    Rakell for Timmins + 1st
    Gibson for Newhook + Grubauer + Compher + Jost
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    14 mars 2021 à 6 h 3
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    This team looks so good it's unfair for the rest of the league.
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    14 mars 2021 à 6 h 58
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    its nice to see a creative solution like this.

    avs give way too much to anaheim. gibson isnt that much of an improvement over grubauer. keep the farm and just get a better backup.
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    14 mars 2021 à 7 h 53
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    This team looks so good it's unfair for the rest of the league.


    Except the team is only carrying 20 players, is over the cap and next year would have roughly $17 million in cap space with 8 spots to fill.
    14 mars 2021 à 7 h 59
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    its nice to see a creative solution like this.

    avs give way too much to anaheim. gibson isnt that much of an improvement over grubauer. keep the farm and just get a better backup.


    Put Grubauer on ANH and he'd get lit up like an Christmas tree.
    14 mars 2021 à 9 h 39
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    Except the team is only carrying 20 players, is over the cap and next year would have roughly $17 million in cap space with 8 spots to fill.


    Short term it's looking great. It's unlikely that they'll be in full health during the regular season so that won't be an issue. And in playoffs there's no salary cap.
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    14 mars 2021 à 9 h 43
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    Short term it's looking great. It's unlikely that they'll be in full health during the regular season so that won't be an issue. And in playoffs there's no salary cap.


    So the plan is to hope someone gets hurt to stay under the cap and that everyone is healthy for playoffs lol.
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    So the plan is to hope someone gets hurt to stay under the cap and that everyone is healthy for playoffs lol.


    Sounds like TB.

    Honestly Francouz could be just put in taxi squad. No one is claiming him off waivers. He's meh enough to be replaced by Miska. And there you have the money.
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    Put Grubauer on ANH and he'd get lit up like an Christmas tree.


    doubt it. underrated goalie. very skilled just not very durable.
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    14 mars 2021 à 10 h 23
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    doubt it. underrated goalie. very skilled just not very durable.


    Looks at goalies w/ at least 10 starts, he faces the least amount of shots per 60 in the NHL and the 7th least HDSA/60. He also has the 2nd lowest xGA/60 which tells me he doesn't see a lot of quality shots. That makes sense seeing as he as the 3rd deepest avg shot distance faced
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Looks at goalies w/ at least 10 starts, he faces the least amount of shots per 60 in the NHL and the 7th least HDSA/60. He also has the 2nd lowest xGA/60 which tells me he doesn't see a lot of quality shots. That makes sense seeing as he as the 3rd deepest avg shot distance faced



    so he faces less shots? that's not a knock against a goalie. his high danger save percentage is better than gibsons so when they both see quality shots gru has been better.
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    14 mars 2021 à 11 h 31
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    doubt it. underrated goalie. very skilled just not very durable.


    Been durable so far - lots of fans waiting for the other shoe to drop
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    14 mars 2021 à 11 h 37
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    Very creative solution, Richard! One thing that intrigues me about Gibson - he makes $6.4 mil for 6 more seasons. If Gru's camp is going to ask for $6M in the offseason, why not just go after a guy like Gibby who has better career stats and is a bit younger? I don't know that Gru's camp can make the case that he is comparable to Binnington (winning a Cup sort of sets you apart, right?) but they might say he's at least as good as Markstrom and he just got $6Mx5 and he's older so why shouldn't Gru ask for that? Now, if he got something more along the lines of $5Mx4-5, then that's substantial savings and you know you'e got a solid D to put in front of him. But it probably all boils down to two things: if Gru can stay healthy and what happens in the playoffs.
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    14 mars 2021 à 11 h 40
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    so he faces less shots? that's not a knock against a goalie. his high danger save percentage is better than gibsons so when they both see quality shots gru has been better.


    Faces less shots, doesn't face as many high quality shots and average distance is much further than most. Gibson has faced more HDSA than anyone in the NHL this season at 205 vs 136 for Grubs. Spin it anyway you want, but Gibson gets left out to dry most nights on a crap ANH team vs Grubs whose playing for one of the best teams in the NHL. If I had to choose a goalie to start my franchise with and it was between those two, I wouldn't hesitate to take Gibby over Grubs because its not even close. Gibby is two years younger and a proven horse whose shown to be able to play 50+ a year. Grubs has never even played 40 games in a season.
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    Quoting: NMAvsFan
    Been durable so far - lots of fans waiting for the other shoe to drop


    it feels like varly 2.0
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    Faces less shots, doesn't face as many high quality shots and average distance is much further than most. Gibson has faced more HDSA than anyone in the NHL this season at 205 vs 136 for Grubs. Spin it anyway you want, but Gibson gets left out to dry most nights on a crap ANH team vs Grubs whose playing for one of the best teams in the NHL. If I had to choose a goalie to start my franchise with and it was between those two, I wouldn't hesitate to take Gibby over Grubs because its not even close. Gibby is two years younger and a proven horse whose shown to be able to play 50+ a year. Grubs has never even played 40 games in a season.


    yea i don't get the argument about the number of shots. it doesn't have anything to do with how good a goalie is, it's more a reflection of the teams play. i used percentage because it accounts for the difference in shot numbers and in high danger areas gru has been better.

    everyone would chose gibson to start a new franchise, he's the better goalie. what im saying is i wouldn't make a trade around swaping gru and gibson when the difference in price is newhook plus. the skill difference between the two isn't worth it. the only issue with gru is his health which i why i'd rather spend assets on a high end back up.
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    it feels like varly 2.0


    A little but I think of it this way - Varly had injury issues in Colorado but he hasn't had as many in NY; why is that? Because they play good D in front of him and he doesn't have to be quite as acrobatic as he did with the Avs. I feel like the Avs have done a bit better with playing good defense and suppressing shots so Gru's workload is lighter. Just a thought I had which may or may not be the case.
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    A little but I think of it this way - Varly had injury issues in Colorado but he hasn't had as many in NY; why is that? Because they play good D in front of hi and he doesn't have to be quite so acrobatic as he did with the Avs. I feel like the Avs have done a bit better with playing good defense and suppressing shots so Gru's workload is lighter. Just a thought I had which may or may not be the case.


    no kidding. trotz is a goalies best friend.
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    14 mars 2021 à 12 h 1
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    no kidding. trotz is a goalies best friend.


    Exactly - Varly went from playing in a completely offense-first system and didn't have many good D in front of him anyhow to a defense-first system with a better D corps. This year, especially with the injuries, it seems like the Avs are being asked to play smarter defensively. I know the lack of scoring is killing a lot of fans but, if you're in a scoring slump, you damn well better play good defense and they're doing that. Gru is benefitting but it would be nice if they could get him a reliable backup to take some games.
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    yea i don't get the argument about the number of shots. it doesn't have anything to do with how good a goalie is, it's more a reflection of the teams play. i used percentage because it accounts for the difference in shot numbers and in high danger areas gru has been better.

    everyone would chose gibson to start a new franchise, he's the better goalie. what im saying is i wouldn't make a trade around swaping gru and gibson when the difference in price is newhook plus. the skill difference between the two isn't worth it. the only issue with gru is his health which i why i'd rather spend assets on a high end back up.


    Heavy volume of shots = more opportunities for goals, no? If a team gives up more HDSA then they are leaning on their goalie even more. Again put Grubby in Gibson situation and he's getting lit up. Gibson goes into every game knowing he's got to be sharp because he's not going to get much goal support from the worst scoring team in the NHL. Gibson is the ANH franchise lol.
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Heavy volume of shots = more opportunities for goals, no? If a team gives up more HDSA then they are leaning on their goalie even more. Again put Grubby in Gibson situation and he's getting lit up. Gibson goes into every game knowing he's got to be sharp because he's not going to get much goal support from the worst scoring team in the NHL. Gibson is the ANH franchise lol.


    yes but i'm using percentages which accounts for shot volume. maybe one or both goalies havent faced enough shots for those percentages to be accurate but so far it shows that gru has been as good or better than gibson, shot for shot, in the high danger areas.
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    Quoting: DirtyDangle
    yes but i'm using percentages which accounts for shot volume. maybe one or both goalies havent faced enough shots for those percentages to be accurate but so far it shows that gru has been as good or better than gibson, shot for shot, in the high danger areas.


    Grubs as faced around 60% of the HDSA volume that Gibby has this year...Gibby also has a significantly better defense and team in front of him. Put Gibby on Colorado and I'd say just give them the cup, which is the ultimate goal right?
     
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