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Matthews vs McDavid

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Date de création initiale: 3 mars 2021
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On Sportsnet Central a person asked would you rather have McDavid or Matthews right now on ask the panel and Anthony Stewart said he would rather have Matthews!!!!
IMO as a leafs fan I would still rather have THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD CONNOR MCDAVID
Is stewy out of his mind??????
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3 mars 2021 à 19 h 58
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Lol
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3 mars 2021 à 19 h 59
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Was Jesper Bratt even an option?
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3 mars 2021 à 20 h 0
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Anyone who says Matthews is insane, or just trying to be a contrarian. Or maybe theres some American bias from some people? I remember some lunatics saying eichel should go over McDavid in their draft year. Insane.

Matthews is an unreal player, but that’s how good McDavid is. It isn’t even close.
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3 mars 2021 à 20 h 1
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McDavid isn't the best player in the world: he's the best offensive player in the world. There's a big difference.

If you're starting a team today and want a more complete player, you take Matthews. Scores more goals (goals are valued more than assists), is better defensively, wins faceoffs, and plays more of a physical style (not a physical player but can use his strength better). McDavid is just the flashy stick handler and high end speed. Both are extremely valuable. But Matthews is the more complete player.

*Que all the hate from Oilers fans in here*
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3 mars 2021 à 20 h 3
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It's like when top Gear raced the Bugatti Veyron against the MaclarenF1.

The Maclaren was amazing. Quick off the line. Top speed in no time. Absolutely brilliant in its own right. Flawless execution. But, ultimately, it wasn't even close, the Bugatti won by a landslide.

McDavid.
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matthews prob has the best shot in the league, but mcdavid is on his own level. matthews is at the level of draisaitl, eichel, mackinnon. after him comes point, marner, aho, etc.
3 mars 2021 à 20 h 5
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McDavid is the best player but he has had terrible GM leadership. Hard to penalize McDavid that. I would take Toronto over Edmonton. Again not on McDavid for that.
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3 mars 2021 à 20 h 9
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He’s a fool just creating a debate to get his name out there more for his own publicity. John Shannon has been trying that controversy angle for years wouldn’t expect any less of Anthony.
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I hate the internet
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If everyone agrees the show is pointless
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matthews prob has the best shot in the league, but mcdavid is on his own level. matthews is at the level of draisaitl, eichel, mackinnon. after him comes point, marner, aho, etc.


See, i just want to know what the heck eichel has ever done to be put in that category
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3 mars 2021 à 20 h 12
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McDavid isn't the best player in the world: he's the best offensive player in the world. There's a big difference.

If you're starting a team today and want a more complete player, you take Matthews. Scores more goals (goals are valued more than assists), is better defensively, wins faceoffs, and plays more of a physical style (not a physical player but can use his strength better). McDavid is just the flashy stick handler and high end speed. Both are extremely valuable. But Matthews is the more complete player.

*Que all the hate from Oilers fans in here*


Um no, you take McDavid over Matthews 100% of the time. One player can singlehandedly take over the game, the other not so much.
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3 mars 2021 à 20 h 13
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Um no, you take McDavid over Matthews 100% of the time. One player can singlehandedly take over the game, the other not so much.


Yeah, McDavid has sure taken over the last 2 games without Toronto's #1 centre or #1 goalie in net. But let me know when McDavid shows up in his own end..

Like I said, offence isn't everything. Matthews is a far more complete player. McDavid is just a beast offensively.
3 mars 2021 à 20 h 14
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
McDavid isn't the best player in the world: he's the best offensive player in the world. There's a big difference.

If you're starting a team today and want a more complete player, you take Matthews. Scores more goals (goals are valued more than assists), is better defensively, wins faceoffs, and plays more of a physical style (not a physical player but can use his strength better). McDavid is just the flashy stick handler and high end speed. Both are extremely valuable. But Matthews is the more complete player.

*Que all the hate from Oilers fans in here*


Matthews is not a more complete player. He barely plays defense. There's a reason he's not on the PK, at least not often. Not saying McDavid is a complete player either, but give me McDavid over Matthews.
3 mars 2021 à 20 h 15
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Yeah, McDavid has sure taken over the last 2 games without Toronto's #1 centre or #1 goalie in net. But let me know when McDavid shows up in his own end..

Like I said, offence isn't everything. Matthews is a far more complete player. McDavid is just a beast offensively.


can you prove Matthews is better than mcdavid defensively
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See, i just want to know what the heck eichel has ever done to be put in that category


all the playes i have mentioned above has players at elite levels supporting them. eichel literally carries the sabres and is still at a 0.95ppg. thats amazing considering how bad the sabres have been over his tenure (sorry sabres fans). if eichel was surrounded by better talent, he'd be scoring 90-100 points every year.
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Yeah, McDavid has sure taken over the last 2 games without Toronto's #1 centre or #1 goalie in net. But let me know when McDavid shows up in his own end..

Like I said, offence isn't everything. Matthews is a far more complete player. McDavid is just a beast offensively.


matthews is not more complete than mcdavid bud. i get it he plays on the leafs and everythings supposedly better there, but he is not more complete than mcdavid. id argue that mackinnon infact is more complete than matthews. matthews makes one back check and they're talking about him winning the selke on the toronto sports (net) network
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Anyone who says Matthews is insane, or just trying to be a contrarian.


He is 100% being a contrarian so people will talk up McDavid.
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can you prove Matthews is better than mcdavid defensively


Go look at the defensive metrics and literally just watch them play
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Yeah, McDavid has sure taken over the last 2 games without Toronto's #1 centre or #1 goalie in net. But let me know when McDavid shows up in his own end..

Like I said, offence isn't everything. Matthews is a far more complete player. McDavid is just a beast offensively.


2 games... Nice sample size lol

Having the ability to take over a game and going out and doing it every night are 2 completely different things. McDavid isn't "just a beast offensively" he redefined beast offensively.

It takes a true homer like yourself to actually consider taking Matthews over McDavid
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3 mars 2021 à 20 h 27
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all the playes i have mentioned above has players at elite levels supporting them. eichel literally carries the sabres and is still at a 0.95ppg. thats amazing considering how bad the sabres have been over his tenure (sorry sabres fans). if eichel was surrounded by better talent, he'd be scoring 90-100 points every year.


Maybe. Maybe not. And ya, lucky McDavid. James Neal on his wing tonight!
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Go look at the defensive metrics and literally just watch them play


Seems like Mcdavid is a lot better than matthews at preventing quality shots against


3 mars 2021 à 20 h 38
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2 games... Nice sample size lol

Having the ability to take over a game and going out and doing it every night are 2 completely different things. McDavid isn't "just a beast offensively" he redefined beast offensively.

It takes a true homer like yourself to actually consider taking Matthews over McDavid


It has nothing to do with what team I follow. In fact I never said what team I even follow the most. It's the fact that Matthews is a better defensive player and the offensive side isn't THAT big of a difference to say that McDavid's poor defence would still set him apart. You say McDavid can take over again, sure he can. But so can Matthews. And Matthews does it in different ways than just offence.

We can sit here and debate all night, but I'm not wasting my time on it. If you watch the game and look at the stats, Matthews is the far more complete player.
3 mars 2021 à 20 h 40
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Quoting: Isles777
Seems like Mcdavid is a lot better than matthews at preventing quality shots against




Literally just watch them play dude.
3 mars 2021 à 20 h 42
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Literally just watch them play dude.


"go look at the defensive metrics"
 
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