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3 way trade

Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 3 mars 2021
Publié: 3 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Just a framework
Transactions
1.
LAK
  1. Lundkvist, Nils [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
Rangers add more. Idk how much it would take
2.
BUF
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
  2. Turcotte, Alex
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Maybe another piece or pick
Rachats de contrats
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C
NMC
UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 7
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
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AG, AD
UFA - 2
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
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UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
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700 000 $700 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
DG/DD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
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2 425 000 $2 425 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
DG
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
G
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
DG
RFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
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833 333 $833 333 $
DG
UFA - 1
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737 500 $737 500 $
DG
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
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UFA - 6
Équipe de réserve
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $ (3 725 000 $$4M3 725 000 $$4M)
DD
UFA - 2
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825 000 $825 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
UFA - 2
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750 833 $750 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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3 mars 2021 à 14 h 13
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I feel like alot of people are undervaluing Turcotte now
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3 mars 2021 à 14 h 15
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I feel like alot of people are undervaluing Turcotte now


I don’t think he’s underrated. He’s very good but I think Buffalo would want 2 guys with huge potential in the trade and Rangers don’t have much to offer besides Laf or Kakko
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3 mars 2021 à 14 h 15
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If LA is giving up Turcotte in any deal, I'd imagine they expect to get Eichel back in return. They're not gonna give up their 2nd best prospect to help another team get a top 5 centre in the league
3 mars 2021 à 14 h 18
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If LA is giving up Turcotte in any deal, I'd imagine they expect to get Eichel back in return. They're not gonna give up their 2nd best prospect to help another team get a top 5 centre in the league


Well Buffalo should get back 2 top young players including a centre.
3 mars 2021 à 14 h 23
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Buffalo's dilemma is that very few teams could take Eichel's cap without sending an equal amount back.
The LA trade, I would take as the Sabres and use some of the available cap space to sign a good player(s). Unfortunately for the Sabres, like the Canucks, their off season UFA signings have been poor.
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3 mars 2021 à 14 h 25
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Buffalo's dilemma is that very few teams could take Eichel's cap without sending an equal amount back.
The LA trade, I would take as the Sabres and use some of the available cap space to sign a good player(s). Unfortunately for the Sabres, like the Canucks, their off season UFA signings have been poor.


Yeah this is what Buffalo needs. 2 solid young players. Will provide less risk than a Kakko + other assets trade
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3 mars 2021 à 14 h 28
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NYR should just do the 1st deal and keep Turcotte

(Lundkvist+ for Turcotte)
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3 mars 2021 à 14 h 30
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Well Buffalo should get back 2 top young players including a centre.


That's a tough ask in the current market with a flat cap and the other team taking on a $10M cap hit
3 mars 2021 à 14 h 32
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
That's a tough ask in the current market with a flat cap and the other team taking on a $10M cap hit


Buffalo could take on cap but don’t expect it to count towards value
3 mars 2021 à 14 h 39
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Buffalo could take on cap but don’t expect it to count towards value


Rangers have plenty of cap space. But Lundkvist is untouchable. What about Robertson and Barron for Turcotte. Then add Strome to Buffalo.
3 mars 2021 à 14 h 40
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add 2022 1st + cap dump

or

BUF: Kakko, Turcotte, Strome, 2021 1st, 2022 1st
NYR: Eichel
LA: Lundkvist/Schneider + Johnson/Samuelsson
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3 mars 2021 à 14 h 42
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I don’t think he’s underrated. He’s very good but I think Buffalo would want 2 guys with huge potential in the trade and Rangers don’t have much to offer besides Laf or Kakko


I believe you are underating Turcotte. Lundkvist went 28th overall in 2018, Turcotte went 5th, I have to imagine you either believe Lundkvist is a blue-chip talent or Turcotte wasn't worth a top 10 pick. If the Kings are giving up Turcotte the Rangers need to send one of: Kakko, Laffy, Fox, or Shestyorkin. If the Kings are giving up their second-best prospect, they need a blue-chip talent coming back. They can affprd to wait and see him develop in their system.
3 mars 2021 à 15 h 15
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So 4 players are traded but the Rangers end up with the 2 best??????
3 mars 2021 à 15 h 16
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So 4 players are traded but the Rangers end up with the 2 best??????


Where do u see the Rangers acquiring 2 guys? Turcotte is flipped to Buffalo
3 mars 2021 à 15 h 55
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NYR should just do the 1st deal and keep Turcotte

(Lundkvist+ for Turcotte)


Maybe. But if they go for Eichel , Buffalo would ask for a centre back. So that’s where Turcotte comes in
3 mars 2021 à 15 h 55
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I believe you are underating Turcotte. Lundkvist went 28th overall in 2018, Turcotte went 5th, I have to imagine you either believe Lundkvist is a blue-chip talent or Turcotte wasn't worth a top 10 pick. If the Kings are giving up Turcotte the Rangers need to send one of: Kakko, Laffy, Fox, or Shestyorkin. If the Kings are giving up their second-best prospect, they need a blue-chip talent coming back. They can affprd to wait and see him develop in their system.


Lundkvist should have been drafted higher. He is first all time for U21 players in the SHL - better than both Karlsson and Dahlin.
He leads all dmen in the SHL in goals and PP goals and is 17th in the league (all skaters) with 21:11 avg ice time.
i'd say he is bluechip.
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3 mars 2021 à 15 h 55
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
Lundkvist should have been drafted higher. He is first all time for U21 players in the SHL - better than both Karlsson and Dahlin.
He leads all dmen in the SHL in goals and PP goals and is 17th in the league (all skaters) with 21:11 avg ice time.
i'd say he is bluechip.


I agree
3 mars 2021 à 16 h 4
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Maybe. But if they go for Eichel , Buffalo would ask for a centre back. So that’s where Turcotte comes in


I got that, and kudos for the creative approach
But there is an argument that Turcotte/Kakko/1st could be more valuable to NYR.
Especially if Zib struggles are temporary.
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3 mars 2021 à 16 h 10
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Quoting: tryger
I believe you are underating Turcotte. Lundkvist went 28th overall in 2018, Turcotte went 5th, I have to imagine you either believe Lundkvist is a blue-chip talent or Turcotte wasn't worth a top 10 pick. If the Kings are giving up Turcotte the Rangers need to send one of: Kakko, Laffy, Fox, or Shestyorkin. If the Kings are giving up their second-best prospect, they need a blue-chip talent coming back. They can affprd to wait and see him develop in their system.


nils is a blue chip and position of draft doesn't mean value, lias went 7th and necas and suzuki were much later yet there value is wayyy more than his obviously, nils has legit just been tearing up and breaking records in SHL U21. Im not trying to undermine Turcottes value bc he's gonna be sick but nils is gonna be a stud as well.
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3 mars 2021 à 18 h 46
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nils is a blue chip and position of draft doesn't mean value, lias went 7th and necas and suzuki were much later yet there value is wayyy more than his obviously, nils has legit just been tearing up and breaking records in SHL U21. Im not trying to undermine Turcottes value bc he's gonna be sick but nils is gonna be a stud as well.


I agree, 2017 draft position doesn't equal their current value. But I would still prefer Fox over Lundkvist if both have the potential to being top pairing RD. I think with Turcotte being drafted last year at such a high position and won a gold medal in the world juniors as a 1C, he needs to have a proven player coming back if they give up on him this early.
3 mars 2021 à 18 h 51
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
Lundkvist should have been drafted higher. He is first all time for U21 players in the SHL - better than both Karlsson and Dahlin.
He leads all dmen in the SHL in goals and PP goals and is 17th in the league (all skaters) with 21:11 avg ice time.
i'd say he is bluechip.


Higher yes, but being equal value to a potential 1C in Turcotte, I'd rather take my chances with Turcotte adapting to the NHL game than a Swedish defenseman to the NHL game.
3 mars 2021 à 19 h 14
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Quoting: tryger
Higher yes, but being equal value to a potential 1C in Turcotte, I'd rather take my chances with Turcotte adapting to the NHL game than a Swedish defenseman to the NHL game.


As I mentioned I'm not putting anything down on turcotte im just saying nils value is pretty high as well he's looking like a top pair dman as well with an awesome nack for goals on the PP
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3 mars 2021 à 21 h 20
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Higher yes, but being equal value to a potential 1C in Turcotte, I'd rather take my chances with Turcotte adapting to the NHL game than a Swedish defenseman to the NHL game.


Never said a word about Turcotte.
Also, there is no shortage of successful Swedish defenseman in NHL history, so I’m not sure what you are implying. I simply said Nils is a bluechip.
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3 mars 2021 à 21 h 41
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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
As I mentioned I'm not putting anything down on turcotte im just saying nils value is pretty high as well he's looking like a top pair dman as well with an awesome nack for goals on the PP


Quoting: Mike_Gartner
Never said a word about Turcotte.
Also, there is no shortage of successful Swedish defenseman in NHL history, so I’m not sure what you are implying. I simply said Nils is a bluechip.


Please recall this text thread began from believing this trade undervalues Turcotte. I'm not trying to put Nils down either or indicate he will be a bust, simply that I would not be happy if Blake did a 1-for-1 deal for him if Turcotte was the piece that was given up. The selection of Worbo as AHL coach and moving him from college shows that the Kings are all in on Turcotte, and it would have to be something impressive to seem an acceptable trade this early in his development. That being said, I imagine Lundqvist will be an impressive part of the Rangers' future, as I hope Turcotte will be as well.
3 mars 2021 à 21 h 48
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Quoting: tryger
Please recall this text thread began from believing this trade undervalues Turcotte. I'm not trying to put Nils down either or indicate he will be a bust, simply that I would not be happy if Blake did a 1-for-1 deal for him if Turcotte was the piece that was given up. The selection of Worbo as AHL coach and moving him from college shows that the Kings are all in on Turcotte, and it would have to be something impressive to seem an acceptable trade this early in his development. That being said, I imagine Lundqvist will be an impressive part of the Rangers' future, as I hope Turcotte will be as well.


No I actually don’t think it’s a one for one just think value isn’t so far off
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