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Im hearing rumors of this trade

Créé par: LGuy54
Date de création initiale: 3 mars 2021
Publié: 3 mars 2021
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
I'd personally love it. We give up a 1 dimensional player with no defensive awareness or any ability to forecheck in exchange for a guy who is more 2 way without too much offense
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Forsberg, Filip
NSH
  1. Nylander, William
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $79 287 375 $0 $0 $2 212 625 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Thornton, Joe
700 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
NSH
Forsberg, Filip
6 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Boyd, Travis
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
725 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
874 125 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
1 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $ (0 $)
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Vesey, Jimmy
900 000 $ (0 $)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
863 333 $ (0 $)
DD
RFA - 2
TOR
Petan, Nicolas
775 000 $ (0 $)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Sabourin, Scott
700 000 $ (0 $)
AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Woll, Joseph
800 000 $ (0 $)
G
RFA - 1

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3 mars 2021 à 10 h 4
#1
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Not strait up. Forsberg might be way better, but he has less term. I think Nashville would have to add slightly. But that doesn't really help them anyway. It won't happen.
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3 mars 2021 à 10 h 4
#2
please resign Hertl
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You do realize FF is a offensive player - he isn’t really a two way guy.

https://public.tableau.com/shared/DBR29BK3B?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

Not saying he can’t play defence but he’s not a two way like some players - it’s just that your comment of Forsberg is quite literally the opposite (“a guy who doesn’t provide much offence”)
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3 mars 2021 à 10 h 8
#3
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Filip Forsberg is an offensive player
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3 mars 2021 à 10 h 10
#4
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Not strait up. Forsberg might be way better, but he has less term. I think Nashville would have to add slightly. But that doesn't really help them anyway. It won't happen.


How is Forsberg "way better"?
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3 mars 2021 à 10 h 12
#5
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First of all I hate casual leafs fans who say Nylander isn't good and should be traded for absolutely no reason.

Also Nylander and Forsberg have similar value IF they had the same amount of term and were the same age. Both are great players but why would the leafs (a contender) trade away one of their best players to get a similar player who isn't even better then Nylander and has 1 more year after the 2 week quarantine when they want to add and not subtract. This makes no sense.

This is a trade that doesn't benefit the leafs at all. Nylander is younger, locked up for more years, is one of the best players in the league at puck possession (which is a big part of the leafs system) for someone who isn't clearly better then him.

And also you forgot to mention where you are hearing this from...
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3 mars 2021 à 10 h 13
#6
please resign Hertl
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Quoting: Ritzy
How is Forsberg "way better"?


WN

https://public.tableau.com/shared/2BHJW8D96?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

FF

https://public.tableau.com/shared/DBR29BK3B?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

Personally I’d prefer Forsberg than Nylander if I’m trying to win the cup - but I think Nash adds to the leafs to return due to age/ contract.
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3 mars 2021 à 10 h 15
#7
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Fun fact: Filip Forsberg starts more of his shifts in the offensive zone than William Nylander.
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3 mars 2021 à 10 h 15
#8
but you’re close.
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We go through this every single season.
Nylander isn't getting traded any time soon.
Just accept it.
3 mars 2021 à 10 h 16
#9
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Quoting: yikes
WN

https://public.tableau.com/shared/2BHJW8D96?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

FF

https://public.tableau.com/shared/DBR29BK3B?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

Personally I’d prefer Forsberg than Nylander if I’m trying to win the cup - but I think Nash adds to the leafs to return due to age/ contract.


Your argument for Forsberg being "way better" is based on EXPECTED stats? Solid argument.
3 mars 2021 à 10 h 18
#10
please resign Hertl
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Quoting: Ritzy
Your argument for Forsberg being "way better" is based on EXPECTED stats? Solid argument.


That’s not what I said at all. I just showed some ADV stats of the players.

I said “I’d prefer Forsberg if I’m trying to win the cup” - I think Forsberg is the better player. I like his shot a lot and I think 5 on 5 he’s very good. Watching the playoffs and our series against him from the past - he specifically was better in the playoffs and a threat. Didn’t say Nylander was dog, I’d just rather see FF on my team if I’m going on a cup run. I like him more. I also said that nash still adds?
3 mars 2021 à 10 h 19
#11
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some of you need to realize that this guy just hates nylander, no sane person would make this trade. it's terrible for the leafs both currently and in the future.

I find it funny how some leaf fans who love marner feel the need to hate on nylander, they're both elite players just enjoy them
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3 mars 2021 à 10 h 22
#12
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toronto would need to add more
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3 mars 2021 à 10 h 27
#13
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Quoting: Ritzy
How is Forsberg "way better"?


Ok, not "way" better but he's better. He's gotten more points for the last 4 years except last year, and he's played less games all those years too (except one maybe).
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3 mars 2021 à 10 h 33
#14
TML1991
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Quoting: yikes
WN

https://public.tableau.com/shared/2BHJW8D96?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

FF

https://public.tableau.com/shared/DBR29BK3B?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

Personally I’d prefer Forsberg than Nylander if I’m trying to win the cup - but I think Nash adds to the leafs to return due to age/ contract.


if you look at dubas' moves it's pretty easy to tell he views winning the cup as a probability game, and getting multiple kicks at the can over more years is more important than a short sighted move.
3 mars 2021 à 10 h 33
#15
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Quoting: Sabres_Insider
toronto would need to add more


no they wouldnt. nylander is younger and has more control.
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3 mars 2021 à 11 h 1
#16
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Nylander has more value then Forsberg simply due to having the extra two years on his deal. Forsberg is the better player but because of this factor Nylander has more value.
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3 mars 2021 à 11 h 6
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This doesn't add up. Nylander is winger that can play C. He is currently centring the 2nd line and doing a fine job of it. He's younger and has term on his contract. Can't see the Leafs making this type of deal in season. Maybe off season, Nylander gets moved but I doubt it's for Forsberg.

Where is this rumour coming from?
3 mars 2021 à 13 h 10
#18
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Quoting: tony135420
This doesn't add up. Nylander is winger that can play C. He is currently centring the 2nd line and doing a fine job of it. He's younger and has term on his contract. Can't see the Leafs making this type of deal in season. Maybe off season, Nylander gets moved but I doubt it's for Forsberg.

Where is this rumour coming from?


I just heard it i don't remember where
3 mars 2021 à 15 h 56
#19
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I've said in the past that Nylander should be traded, but he is a good player. Sure, it's aggravating watching him play poorly because he is so capable, but trading him right now makes no sense. As of late Nylander has been fantastic. Why trade a core 4 player when we are winning? This is absolutely insane. Also, where are you hearing this "rumor" from. CapFriendly Armchair GM is not a credible source.
3 mars 2021 à 17 h 2
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Quoting: tony135420
This doesn't add up. Nylander is winger that can play C. He is currently centring the 2nd line and doing a fine job of it. He's younger and has term on his contract. Can't see the Leafs making this type of deal in season. Maybe off season, Nylander gets moved but I doubt it's for Forsberg.

Where is this rumour coming from?


Quoting: Nate
I've said in the past that Nylander should be traded, but he is a good player. Sure, it's aggravating watching him play poorly because he is so capable, but trading him right now makes no sense. As of late Nylander has been fantastic. Why trade a core 4 player when we are winning? This is absolutely insane. Also, where are you hearing this "rumor" from. CapFriendly Armchair GM is not a credible source.


The rumour comes from here:
4 mars 2021 à 9 h 21
#21
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Quoting: BenjaminWalder
The rumour comes from here:


Alright, but still? Why trade Nylander. Go watch Downtown Sports, he had a really good video
 
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