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TDL Deal with NSH

Créé par: carterhart
Date de création initiale: 28 févr. 2021
Publié: 2 mars 2021
Équipe: 2020-21 Flyers de Philadelphie
Explications
Along with Ekholm, looks as if the Flyers are interested in Granlund as well.

What is the price?

NOTE: Ekholm signs <4 year extension with PHI (Team looks to protect him at expansion by offering compensation to SEA).
Transactions
1.
PHI
    ANA
    1. Niskanen, Matt
    Détails additionnels:
    Retired
    2.
    PHI
      ARI
      1. Gustafsson, Erik
      Détails additionnels:
      Anywhere
      3.
      PHI
      1. Ekholm, Mattias
      2. Granlund, Mikael (1 875 000 $ retained)
      Détails additionnels:
      Ekholm signs
      NSH
      1. Hägg, Robert
      2. Frost, Morgan
      3. Twarynski, Carsen
      4. 2021 1e round pick (PHI)
      5. 2022 4e round pick (PHI)
      Rachats de contrats
      • Andrew MacDonald: 1 916 667 $
      • David Schlemko: 600 000 $
      • Ilya Bryzgalov: 0 $
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      • Claude Giroux: 4 137 500 $ (50%)
      • Michael Raffl: 400 000 $ (25%)
      • Erik Gustafsson: 1 500 000 $ (50%)
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      2023
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2081 500 000 $79 988 852 $66 037 $582 500 $1 511 148 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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      van Riemsdyk, James
      7 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
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      Couturier, Sean
      4 333 333 $
      C
      UFA - 2
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      Farabee, Joel
      925 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
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      Giroux, Claude
      4 137 500 $
      AD, C
      NMC
      UFA - 2
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      Hayes, Kevin
      7 142 857 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 6
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      Konecny, Travis
      5 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 5
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      Granlund, Mikael
      1 875 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
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      Patrick, Nolan
      874 125 $
      C, AD
      RFA - 1
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      Voracek, Jakub
      8 250 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 4
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      Lindblom, Oskar
      3 000 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 3
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      Laughton, Scott
      2 300 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 1
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      Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
      1 075 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 2
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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      Provorov, Ivan
      6 750 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 5
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      Ekholm, Mattias
      3 750 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 2
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      Hart, Carter
      730 833 $
      G
      RFA - 1
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      Sanheim, Travis
      3 250 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
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      Myers, Philippe
      2 550 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
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      Elliott, Brian
      1 500 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
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      Gostisbehere, Shayne
      4 500 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 3
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      Braun, Justin
      1 800 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 2
      Équipe de réserve
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      Bunnaman, Connor
      736 666 $ (0 $)
      C, AG
      RFA - 1
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      Raffl, Michael
      1 200 000 $ (125 000 $)
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1

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      2 mars 2021 à 9 h 25
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      I would accept this as Nashville
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      2 mars 2021 à 9 h 54
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      As Preds fan I wouldn't accept that trade.
      Value of Granlund (with half retention) should be around late 1st.
      So I do not think that Ekholm for Frost is a good trade.
      Especially due to the fact, that Predators have no interest in Hägg or Twarynski (in such type of trades such players are dead weight).

      In my mind this trade should looks like that:
      Granlund (half retention)+Ekholm
      for
      2021 1st, Frost, York, Gostisbehere(dead weight).
      Seems more fair.
      2 mars 2021 à 9 h 57
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      Quoting: Nik_SH
      As Preds fan I wouldn't accept that trade.
      Value of Granlund (with half retention) should be around late 1st.
      So I do not think that Ekholm for Frost is a good trade.
      Especially due to the fact, that Predators have no interest in Hägg or Twarynski (in such type of trades such players are dead weight).

      In my mind this trade should looks like that:
      Granlund (half retention)+Ekholm
      for
      2021 1st, Frost, York, Gostisbehere(dead weight).
      Seems more fair.


      Took a while for Granlund to get a deal in the offseason, and he is only on contract til the end of the year - signifying he is a rental. I don't see him being worth a late 1st with his stats this season and the role he'd play in PHI. That's just my opinion though.

      Looking at your offer, you're essentially saying a 1st, two A-prospects and Ghost (who actually has decent stats this year) for an expiring UFA and Ekholm. I wouldn't take that on PHI's end
      2 mars 2021 à 11 h 31
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      Nik_SH
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      Quoting: carterhart
      Took a while for Granlund to get a deal in the offseason, and he is only on contract til the end of the year - signifying he is a rental. I don't see him being worth a late 1st with his stats this season and the role he'd play in PHI. That's just my opinion though.

      Looking at your offer, you're essentially saying a 1st, two A-prospects and Ghost (who actually has decent stats this year) for an expiring UFA and Ekholm. I wouldn't take that on PHI's end


      I saw a lot of concepts where fans of the other teams pay late 1st for Granlund (with half retention). So I would prefer to get this first round pick for Granny.
      So, yes it is two A prospects+3 years of dead weight for Ekholm.

      For me Ghost is a dead weight (pretty close to absolutely negative value). With that trade Philadelphia saves 4m for next 3 years, gets Ekholm for the next 2 years and only pays 2 A lvl prospects.
      2 mars 2021 à 11 h 40
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      Quoting: Nik_SH
      I saw a lot of concepts where fans of the other teams pay late 1st for Granlund (with half retention). So I would prefer to get this first round pick for Granny.
      So, yes it is two A prospects+3 years of dead weight for Ekholm.

      For me Ghost is a dead weight (pretty close to absolutely negative value). With that trade Philadelphia saves 4m for next 3 years, gets Ekholm for the next 2 years and only pays 2 A lvl prospects.


      If Ghost is dead weight, then no point in PHI offering him, as he's providing value to the team right now. Adding assets to ship a guy to a team that isn't necessarily dead weight to you isn't a good move for them; which is why I offered Hagg and other pieces instead.
      2 mars 2021 à 11 h 44
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      Quoting: Nik_SH
      I saw a lot of concepts where fans of the other teams pay late 1st for Granlund (with half retention). So I would prefer to get this first round pick for Granny.
      So, yes it is two A prospects+3 years of dead weight for Ekholm.

      For me Ghost is a dead weight (pretty close to absolutely negative value). With that trade Philadelphia saves 4m for next 3 years, gets Ekholm for the next 2 years and only pays 2 A lvl prospects.


      This is the best Ghost has looked since his 65 point season. He might not be producing at that rate but he's been 10x better defensively and it looks like the offensive side to his game is coming around I wouldn't say he's dead weight at this point
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