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Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
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2 mars 2021 à 9 h 23
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This got me hype. Owen Power's name alone is lethal enough to carry us to victory
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2 mars 2021 à 9 h 24
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NYR Timeline...

2018: "We are rebuilding"
2019: "The rebuild is over!"
2020: lottery pick
2021: lottery pick
2022: lottery pick
2 mars 2021 à 9 h 26
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
NYR Timeline...

2018: "We are rebuilding"
2019: "The rebuild is over!"
2020: lottery pick
2021: lottery pick
2022: lottery pick


Yea the Devs fan wants to chime in about the rebuild. Cool Hall trade bro
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2 mars 2021 à 9 h 27
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
NYR Timeline...

2018: "We are rebuilding"
2019: "The rebuild is over!"
2020: lottery pick
2021: lottery pick
2022: lottery pick


Lafreniere, Kakko, Lundkvist, Schneider, Miller, Kravtsov, Chytil are all 21 and under. Their goalie still counts as a rookie. And theyre short a 2C currently. I dont know who thought the rebuild was finished in 2019
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2 mars 2021 à 9 h 40
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there isn't a person that thought the rebuild was over in 2019.
any one who thinks the rebuild is over today is a fool.

thanks for being so salty.
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2 mars 2021 à 10 h 7
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Lafreniere, Kakko, Lundkvist, Schneider, Miller, Kravtsov, Chytil are all 21 and under. Their goalie still counts as a rookie. And theyre short a 2C currently. I dont know who thought the rebuild was finished in 2019


The Rangers did, when they signed Panarin.
They reaffirmed it when they resigned Kreider.
Both times said they were no longer a rebuilding club.
2 mars 2021 à 10 h 13
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there isn't a person that thought the rebuild was over in 2019.
any one who thinks the rebuild is over today is a fool.

thanks for being so salty.


Read some clips from after Panarin signing and Kreider resigning.
I mean, just the headlines say "Rangers end rebuild"
2 mars 2021 à 10 h 16
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
there isn't a person that thought the rebuild was over in 2019.
any one who thinks the rebuild is over today is a fool.

thanks for being so salty.


Rebuild wont be over until around 2022
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2 mars 2021 à 10 h 25
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Read some clips from after Panarin signing and Kreider resigning.
I mean, just the headlines say "Rangers end rebuild"


what headlines? what are you talking about?
Panarin and Kreider were steps toward completing a rebuild, not making statements that the rebuild was over.
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2 mars 2021 à 10 h 53
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what headlines? what are you talking about?
Panarin and Kreider were steps toward completing a rebuild, not making statements that the rebuild was over.


Took me 10 seconds

https://www.foreverblueshirts.com/rangers-trade-deadline-actions-say-the-rebuild-is-over/
https://fansided.com/2019/07/01/new-york-rangers-end-rebuild-artemi-panarin-signing/

Read what JD and Gorton were saying at the time..."The first phase is done"
2 mars 2021 à 10 h 59
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Took me 10 seconds

https://www.foreverblueshirts.com/rangers-trade-deadline-actions-say-the-rebuild-is-over/
https://fansided.com/2019/07/01/new-york-rangers-end-rebuild-artemi-panarin-signing/

Read what JD and Gorton were saying at the time..."The first phase is done"


so your sources are opinion pieces from fan bloggers - point #1 made, thanks.
JD and Gorton said that Phase 1 of the rebuild was complete, not that the rebuild was complete - point #2 made, thanks.

Also worth noting that the Rangers were trying to sell Kreider at the TDL but couldn't get a bite worth moving him for, so they made the decision to keep and sign him.
2 mars 2021 à 11 h 9
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so your sources are opinion pieces from fan bloggers - point #1 made, thanks.
JD and Gorton said that Phase 1 of the rebuild was complete, not that the rebuild was complete - point #2 made, thanks.

Also worth noting that the Rangers were trying to sell Kreider at the TDL but couldn't get a bite worth moving him for, so they made the decision to keep and sign him.


Give it up, dude!
Can't spend my time researching your team for you...but the whole 'fastest rebuild' was a thing in summer 2019.
The team said they were ready to compete. Said the same when they re-upped Kreider.
The original point remains. 4 straight lottery picks...means they are not competing.
2 mars 2021 à 11 h 18
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Give it up, dude!
Can't spend my time researching your team for you...but the whole 'fastest rebuild' was a thing in summer 2019.
The team said they were ready to compete. Said the same when they re-upped Kreider.
The original point remains. 4 straight lottery picks...means they are not competing.


i'm convinced you are the type of person that reads headlines and forms an opinion on the headline rather than the actual story.
a few years back management said that they wanted to remain as competitive as they could throughout the process. being competitive and competing are two different things...
2 mars 2021 à 11 h 36
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i'm convinced you are the type of person that reads headlines and forms an opinion on the headline rather than the actual story.
a few years back management said that they wanted to remain as competitive as they could throughout the process. being competitive and competing are two different things...


Yes, I am really, really dumb. A mouth-breathing stooopid.
And when hockey comes up....whoa! All sorts of neurons misfiring.
Gosh, I can't tie my own shoes without drooling all over myself.
That if I wear shoes at all.

Feel better now?
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2 mars 2021 à 11 h 39
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Give it up, dude!
Can't spend my time researching your team for you...but the whole 'fastest rebuild' was a thing in summer 2019.
The team said they were ready to compete. Said the same when they re-upped Kreider.
The original point remains. 4 straight lottery picks...means they are not competing.


2017/18 - declared rebuild
2018/19 - 1st full season of rebuild
2019/20 - on track to have winning season despite selling off previous season (competing, not competitive)
2020/21 - true last season of rebuild, managing to be competitive with 8 figures worth of dead cap

the lottery pick situation can be spun anyway people want, but lets be honest in 2020 they moved up like 11 spots and in 2019 they moved up 4 spots. they were never in the bottom 5 in the league...
2 mars 2021 à 11 h 40
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Yes, I am really, really dumb. A mouth-breathing stooopid.
And when hockey comes up....whoa! All sorts of neurons misfiring.
Gosh, I can't tie my own shoes without drooling all over myself.
That if I wear shoes at all.

Feel better now?


hey, you said it man, not me...
2 mars 2021 à 12 h 3
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
NYR Timeline...

2018: "We are rebuilding"
2019: "The rebuild is over!"
2020: lottery pick
2021: lottery pick
2022: lottery pick



At the trade deadline last season- 2019, just before the stoppage. The Rangers were playing very very well and were on their way to making the playoffs. Regardless they traded a top 4 defenseman (Skjei) to Carolina for a 1st round pick and replaced him in the lineup with Smith. This is obviously not the type of trade a team makes when a team is finished rebuilding.

The only reason the Rangers might have a lottery pick this season (2020) is because they have the youngest team in the NHL and are playing in by far the best division (realigned) in the NHL. Not to mention the top players they have injured. So again they'll probably be sellers at this years TDL. Hoping Blackwell keeps putting up points and playing remarkably well, so we could be offered a great return in trade for him.

Regardless of being sellers again this TDL, the Rangers could still make the playoffs if they make a run when their injured players return. But next season (2021) the Rangers will be expected to make the playoffs even if they are sellers at the TDL. Then the following year (2022) they will be "indestructible". This season is their only chance of being a lottery pick. Though I still believe they will make the playoffs this season.
2 mars 2021 à 12 h 20
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At the trade deadline last season- 2019, just before the stoppage. The Rangers were playing very very well and were on their way to making the playoffs. Regardless they traded a top 4 defenseman (Skjei) to Carolina for a 1st round pick and replaced him in the lineup with Smith. This is obviously not the type of trade a team makes when a team is finished rebuilding.

The only reason the Rangers might have a lottery pick this season (2020) is because they have the youngest team in the NHL and are playing in by far the best division (realigned) in the NHL. Not to mention the top players they have injured. So again they'll probably be sellers at this years TDL. Hoping Blackwell keeps putting up points and playing remarkably well, so we could be offered a great return in trade for him.

Regardless of being sellers again this TDL, the Rangers could still make the playoffs if they make a run when their injured players return. But next season (2021) the Rangers will be expected to make the playoffs even if they are sellers at the TDL. Then the following year (2022) they will be "indestructible". This season is their only chance of being a lottery pick. Though I still believe they will make the playoffs this season.


Many in media, correctly or not, said rebuild was over. JD and Gorton said rebuilding phase was over.
Within a year, they had traded for Trouba, signed Panarin, resigned Trouba and resigned Kreider.
Declared themselves ready to compete.
....only to be followed by 3 straight lottery picks (in this ACGM).
2 mars 2021 à 12 h 35
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Many in media, correctly or not, said rebuild was over. JD and Gorton said rebuilding phase was over.
Within a year, they had traded for Trouba, signed Panarin, resigned Trouba and resigned Kreider.
Declared themselves ready to compete.
....only to be followed by 3 straight lottery picks (in this ACGM).



New York papers have the best headlines, the Rangers obviously can't control the headlines. Management never said the rebuild was over. What they clearly said is that it's important to be competitive while rebuilding.

If not you end up like Edmonton in an endless rebuild without making the playoffs. For that to happen you need players like Panarin, Kreider, and Trouba. They've stated many times that they believe it's very important for player development to make the playoffs and have that playoff experience.
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2 mars 2021 à 12 h 55
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Many in media, correctly or not, said rebuild was over. JD and Gorton said rebuilding phase was over.
Within a year, they had traded for Trouba, signed Panarin, resigned Trouba and resigned Kreider.
Declared themselves ready to compete.
....only to be followed by 3 straight lottery picks (in this ACGM).


Many in media, correctly or not, said rebuild was over. JD and Gorton said rebuilding phase was over. - they said phase one of rebuild was over, not the rebuild.
Within a year, they had traded for Trouba, signed Panarin, resigned Trouba and resigned Kreider. - this happened over the course of a 2.5 year period, not signs of the end of a rebuild but steps in the process of a rebuild.
Declared themselves ready to compete. - who declared what, the media? doesn't mean anything.
....only to be followed by 3 straight lottery picks (in this ACGM). - again, they were never in the bottom 5 in the league, moved up significantly in the draft - "lottery luck"
2 mars 2021 à 13 h 5
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Quoting: Mike_Gartner
Many in media, correctly or not, said rebuild was over. JD and Gorton said rebuilding phase was over. - they said phase one of rebuild was over, not the rebuild.
Within a year, they had traded for Trouba, signed Panarin, resigned Trouba and resigned Kreider. - this happened over the course of a 2.5 year period, not signs of the end of a rebuild but steps in the process of a rebuild.
Declared themselves ready to compete. - who declared what, the media? doesn't mean anything.
....only to be followed by 3 straight lottery picks (in this ACGM). - again, they were never in the bottom 5 in the league, moved up significantly in the draft - "lottery luck"


8 months...
Jun 17 2019 Trouba acquired
Jul 1 2019 Panarin signed
Jul 19 2019 Trouba resigned
Feb 24 2020 Kreider resigned
2 mars 2021 à 13 h 12
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8 months...
Jun 17 2019 Trouba acquired
Jul 1 2019 Panarin signed
Jul 19 2019 Trouba resigned
Feb 24 2020 Kreider resigned


ok, so what does that prove?
2 mars 2021 à 13 h 23
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ok, so what does that prove?


One-third of the salary cap, for six plus years, given to 3 players, two of which turn 30 this year.

Actions speak louder than words
2 mars 2021 à 13 h 32
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One-third of the salary cap, for six plus years, given to 3 players, two of which turn 30 this year.

Actions speak louder than words


so when teams go through rebuilds, do they not do anything except sell and draft for some period of time and then one offseason they just sign everyone they can, or do they make gradual moves to make the team better long term?
2 mars 2021 à 17 h 13
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One-third of the salary cap, for six plus years, given to 3 players, two of which turn 30 this year.

Actions speak louder than words


You keep chiming in with salty nothings.
Hilarious jealousy oozing from your pores.
Rebuild over simply means; stop shedding and let team grow, yes with solid vets sprinkled in.
Worry about your little team...
 
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