Clarity on Eichel Situation

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Créé par: Blueshirts_in_Florida

Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York

Date de création initiale: 1 mars 2021

Publié: 1 mars 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Let’s be honest- most fans overvalue their players to some degree. Add in the fact that almost all of us are so emotionally invested in our teams and players that it can cloud our judgement. For example, I see some Buffalo fans basically demanding that Kakko AND Lafreniere be included in a trade for Eichel. On the other hand, I see some Ranger fans hoping they can get away with only giving up a first round pick, a top 6 player and a top prospect.

I think these are some really important points to keep in mind when discussing a potential trade:

- Jack Eichel is worth a TON. He really is and he should be.

- BUF isn’t crazy to ask for either Kakko or Laf as part of a deal.

- BUF can ask for whatever players they want... it doesn’t mean they’ll actually get them, though.

- If Eichel is traded, he might not get full value.

- Once again, BUF SHOULD ask for and get full value in theory, but just because he should doesn’t mean he will. If this were the case there’d be no bad trades in hockey. But we know GM’s make bad moves all the time.

- Buffalo doesn’t have to trade him right now.

- There’s undoubtedly tension between Eichel and management which I think long term puts more pressure on the organization. Teams rarely want a disgruntled player to be a core piece of their future.

- If things continue to deteriorate and they wait until his NMC kicks in after the 2021-22 season, only he can decide where he goes in a trade and that could absolutely kill any leverage that management has in recouping assets.

Final thoughts...

I have no idea what will happen with Eichel, but if we’re being honest it’s looking more and more by the day that he’s unhappy with his situation. This leads me to believe there’s may be a trade this off-season. I’ve just added the very basic starting points of a package below. Keep in mind that if NYR do make an offer- like it or not- they’ll likely do everything in their power to not include Kakko or Laf. Let me know what you think.

Transactions

NYR

Eichel, Jack

BUF

Buchnevich, Pavel [Droits de RFA]
Chytil, Filip [Droits de RFA]
Lundkvist, Nils [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)

Détails additionnels:

Once again, not an exact package but I would think this is *generally* what NYR might offer if they aren’t willing to give up Laf/Kakko/Miller, etc.

Rachats de contrats

Henrik Lundqvist: 1 500 000 $
Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 433 333 $
Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
Brad Richards: 0 $
Anthony Deangelo: 383 333 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
16	81 500 000 $	61 233 134 $	0 $	7 550 000 $	20 266 866 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Panarin, Artemi 11 642 857 $11 642 857 $ AG NMC UFA - 5	Eichel, Jack 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ C UFA - 5	Kakko, Kaapo 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 650 000 $$3M) AD RFA - 1
Kreider, Chris 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AG NMC UFA - 6	Zibanejad, Mika 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Lafrenière, Alexis 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 850 000 $$3M) AG, AD RFA - 2
Lemieux, Brendan 1 550 000 $1 550 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Strome, Ryan 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1	Rooney, Kevin 750 000 $750 000 $ C UFA - 1
	Blackwell, Colin 725 000 $725 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Kravtsov, Vitali 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Bitetto, Anthony 737 500 $737 500 $ DG UFA - 1	Fox, Adam 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD UFA - 1	Georgiev, Alexandar 2 425 000 $2 425 000 $ G UFA - 1
Miller, K'Andre 925 000 $925 000 $ (350 000 $$350K) DG RFA - 2	Trouba, Jacob 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 5

Équipe de réserve
Kinkaid, Keith 825 000 $825 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) G UFA - 1
Reunanen, Tarmo 809 167 $809 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (82 500 $$82K) DG RFA - 1

1 mars 2021 à 19 h 46

Sabres_Insider

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i like what u said. Eichel is a top 10 centre. He's having a down season in a weird year. Eichel was 10th in scoring last season. Fans know what their getting in eichel. Therefore i think a fair trade would be

Eichel for 2021 1st, Kakko, Chytl, Kravstov, Schnider. you give up 2 players off your current roster for a top 10 centre. if i was a rangers fan i would personally do this trade.

Sends buffalo back into a rebuild with good pieces

1 mars 2021 à 19 h 54

Blueshirts_in_Florida

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Quoting: Sabres_Insider

I appreciate the feedback. That’s honestly not a crazy ask at all on Buffalo’s part. Eichel is a legitimate superstar in his prime he *should* get a haul. I’m not sure the Rangers management pulls the trigger on it but it’s probably closer to what a deal would look like than most think.

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1 mars 2021 à 20 h 11

Hedman77

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I agree with what you said.
I don’t think there’s any chance Lafreniere gets traded. They just drafted him. It wasn’t that long ago that people were calling him the best prospect since McDavid.

Kakko, on the other hand, I think has to be in any Eichel trade. A new guy for Buffalo to build around. Probably the future RW for Cozens.

I’d say Kakko, Lundkvist, Buchnevich and a 1st is close.

1 mars 2021 à 20 h 16

Blueshirts_in_Florida

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Quoting: Hedman77

Agreed. If I were Buffalo that’s the kind of package I’d be demanding for sure.

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1 mars 2021 à 20 h 23

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Quoting: Sabres_Insider

That’s not far off on value, but there’s not nearly enough cap going out from the Rangers. Need to add Strome and possibly others to make the money work. And I’d personally drop one of Chytl or Kravtsov in that scenario and add in a lower level guys, say Henriksson.

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1 mars 2021 à 20 h 54

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Quoting: desertdog111

drop schnider and add Strome

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1 mars 2021 à 21 h 32

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You need to create 10 million in cap space. Strome or Buchnevich, and DeAngelo or Smith (+ prospects and picks) would have to be part of the deal.
Mika has a full NTC, Smith may not modify to Buff..... I think the Rangers get this done in the off-season with 20 million free cap space.

1 mars 2021 à 21 h 40

Blueshirts_in_Florida

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Quoting: desertdog111

Oh yeah I definitely understand that point. Ideally Strome is in the package or traded to another team for draft picks. I don’t think there’s much pressure though because....

- DeAngelo can be bought out pretty cheaply this off-season (only a 383,000 penalty against cap)

- Their other previous buyout penalties will go down next season which gives them more cap space.

- They’ll also gain cap space from Smith’s expiring contract (4.35 mil)

2 mars 2021 à 0 h 5

SalamiCheese

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Sabres decline. I am sure there will be better offers

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2 mars 2021 à 1 h 4

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MANY teams in the league would want Eichel
If u want ANY shot at him at all, you’re gonna have to up your offer quite a bit

2 mars 2021 à 1 h 6

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Quoting: Hedman77

Maybe
Just depends what other teams get in on the bidding & what they offer

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