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Eichel has 14 pts and Oshie has 14 pts

Créé par: Eli
Date de création initiale: 1 mars 2021
Publié: 1 mars 2021
Équipe: 2020-21 Capitals de Washington
Explications
Trying to copy Buccigross' offer (which fans of Buf and NYR say is fair, here): https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/423527

Lapierre=Chytil--potential #1C who's had some injuries--Lapierre was predicted to be a top-five pick but missed too much of last year. He's back. Has 18 pts in 11 games this year in junior.
WSH pick<NYR pick by a couple spots, but give NYR Eichel without taking away any roster players and maybe not. Maybe that's equal.
Oshie>Kakko (proven 30 goal scorer vs ???)
Fehervary=Schneider (Fehervary is NHL-ready, though)

Any good?
Transactions
1.
WSH
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Lapierre, Hendrix
  2. Oshie, T.J.
  3. Fehérváry, Martin
  4. Vanecek, Vitek
  5. 2021 1e round pick (WSH)
2.
WSH
  1. Ritchie, Nick
  2. 2021 1e round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Orlov, Dmitry
Enfoui
  • Pheonix Copley: 25 000 $ (1 100 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
BOS
WSH
WSH
WSH
VGK
WSH
2022
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
2023
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
WSH
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $80 028 802 $419 749 $1 330 000 $1 471 198 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
WSH
Ovechkin, Alex
9 538 462 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
WSH
Bäckström, Nicklas
9 200 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
WSH
Sheary, Conor
735 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
WSH
Kuznetsov, Evgeny
7 800 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 5
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
WSH
Wilson, Tom
5 166 666 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 4
WSH
Vrána, Jakub
3 350 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
WSH
Eller, Lars
3 500 000 $
C
UFA - 3
WSH
Pánik, Richard
1 375 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
WSH
Hagelin, Carl
2 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
WSH
Dowd, Nic
750 000 $
C
UFA - 2
WSH
Hathaway, Garnet
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
BOS
Ritchie, Nick
1 498 925 $
AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
WSH
Dillon, Brenden
3 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
WSH
Carlson, John
8 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 6
WSH
Samsonov, Ilya
925 000 $
G
RFA - 1
WSH
Chara, Zdeno
795 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
WSH
Schultz, Justin
4 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
WSH
Fucale, Zachary
700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
WSH
van Riemsdyk, Trevor
800 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
WSH
Jensen, Nick
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
WSH
Siegenthaler, Jonas
800 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
WSH
Kempný, Michal
2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
WSH
Lundqvist, Henrik
1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
WSH
Pinho, Brian
725 000 $ (0 $)
C, AD
UFA - 2
WSH
Anderson, Craig
700 000 $ (0 $)
G
UFA - 1
WSH
Carr, Daniel
700 000 $ (0 $)
AG
UFA - 1
WSH
Sprong, Daniel
725 000 $ (0 $)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
WSH
Maillet, Philippe
700 000 $ (0 $)
C
UFA - 1

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1 mars 2021 à 20 h 10
#26
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Who adds what?
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
That's a weird list, some of those guys aren't even prospects anymore.


Which one? I just opened the first hits I got and looked for the guys in the trades. Only because you questioned my statement that the Buccigross offer did not include the Rangers' best prospects. I really don't look at those sorts of things, because I think you can tell more by watching players and looking at their stats than from some random writer's opinion.
1 mars 2021 à 20 h 14
#27
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
So just to be clear, you think that oshie, a 34 year old, is of interest to the rebuilding Buffalo Sabres?


What he said. Love it when a guy with no value to Buffalo gets put into a deal just so Washington can clear cap space for themselves. Does not work that way. Take Oshie out and put McMichael in OR leave Oshie in and add McMichael and 2022 1st. Don't forget about Lapierre's concussion history. Might not have the value you think he does.
Quoting: Eli
Read the description. Look up the players if you don't know them. Google some highlights. The Rangers are on TV more, but other teams have real prospects and goalies, too.


Quoting: Eli
Let's look it up, shall we? These guys say these guys rank 3,4, and 9: https://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2020/12/15/22169436/blueshirt-banter-2020-new-york-rangers-prospect-rankings-top-24-under-24-rankings-lafreniere-kakko

The guys I'm offering from the Caps apparently rank 2nd, 3rd, and 5th in their system, here: https://www.nhl.com/news/washington-capitals-prospect-watch/c-319787690

If you find better lists, I"m open to reading them. Georgiev graduated before the above was written, but really, Vanecek has now graduated, too. Kakko and Lafreniere were supposed to turn into dependable NHL regulars this year, but if they had, this board would contain something other than Eichel to NYR posts.
1 mars 2021 à 20 h 18
#28
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Eli
Eichel practically asked for a trade. In the NHL, that lowers his trade value. See ROR.

Oshie, meanwhile, has as many points as Eichel, and is only earning $2.5M salary this year.


Who cares? He means nothing to a rebuilding team. Literally nothing.
1 mars 2021 à 20 h 33
#29
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Quoting: BruinsCharlies
What he said. Love it when a guy with no value to Buffalo gets put into a deal just so Washington can clear cap space for themselves. Does not work that way. Take Oshie out and put McMichael in OR leave Oshie in and add McMichael and 2022 1st. Don't forget about Lapierre's concussion history. Might not have the value you think he does.


It's cool how Bos and WSH are rivals again. Been a while.

McMichael is a couple months older than Lafreniere, plays a more valuable position, and performed similarly in juniors and world juniors last year. Neither is a throw-in. If not for Lapierre's injury last year he would have been a top five pick. Instead, because of uncertainty, his value is comparable to Chytil. I think he has a higher ceiling, still, but Chytil is starting to show that, when healthy, he can at least play a middle-six role in the NHL. The NHL is still a couple years away for Lapierre.
1 mars 2021 à 21 h 24
#30
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Boston says no obviously
1 mars 2021 à 21 h 29
#31
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Boston says no obviously


It's so cool being rivals again!
1 mars 2021 à 22 h 19
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Quoting: Eli
It's cool how Bos and WSH are rivals again. Been a while.

McMichael is a couple months older than Lafreniere, plays a more valuable position, and performed similarly in juniors and world juniors last year. Neither is a throw-in. If not for Lapierre's injury last year he would have been a top five pick. Instead, because of uncertainty, his value is comparable to Chytil. I think he has a higher ceiling, still, but Chytil is starting to show that, when healthy, he can at least play a middle-six role in the NHL. The NHL is still a couple years away for Lapierre.


You think you are making a valid offer for Eichel and not including your top prospect? Think again. McMichael is a must add. You can go on whatever tangent you want but that's a fact.
1 mars 2021 à 22 h 58
#33
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Quoting: BruinsCharlies
You think you are making a valid offer for Eichel and not including your top prospect? Think again. McMichael is a must add. You can go on whatever tangent you want but that's a fact.


Nah. Pass on that noise.
2 mars 2021 à 0 h 32
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Sabres decline
2 mars 2021 à 11 h 58
#35
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Quoting: Eli
It's so cool being rivals again!


?
2 mars 2021 à 12 h 14
#36
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
?


All offseason, B's fans were trying to add a #1LD. Most were paying a lot more than the above for guys about as good as Orlov.
2 mars 2021 à 12 h 43
#37
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Quoting: Eli
All offseason, B's fans were trying to add a #1LD. Most were paying a lot more than the above for guys about as good as Orlov.


No. Sweeney literally said they are happy with their young dmen, giving Zboril, Lauzon, and Vaakanienen a try, and are NOT trying to acquire a LHD.

So i still dont get "It's so cool being rivals again!", but yeah bruins reject. (its also an overpay btw lol)
2 mars 2021 à 12 h 52
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
No. Sweeney literally said they are happy with their young dmen, giving Zboril, Lauzon, and Vaakanienen a try, and are NOT trying to acquire a LHD.

So i still dont get "It's so cool being rivals again!", but yeah bruins reject. (its also an overpay btw lol)


It's an overpay if you go by offense just this season, but it's cheap if you watched the 2018 playoffs, or the last five seasons, when Orlov's been a top-10 LHD at everything but power plays. Wasn't aware of stated lack of need. That totally makes sense. Thanks.
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2 mars 2021 à 12 h 53
#39
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Quoting: Eli
It's an overpay if you go by offense just this season, but it's cheap if you watched the 2018 playoffs, or the last five seasons, when Orlov's been a top-10 LHD at everything but power plays. Wasn't aware of stated lack of need. That totally makes sense. Thanks.


Totally fair, I mean i like Orlov lol, one of my favorite NHLers just cuz hes a funky dude, but yeah
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