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Créé par: Silkysmooth42
Équipe: 2020-21 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 1 mars 2021
Publié: 1 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
IMPORTANT TO READ:
this is based on an excellent idea from nalzugaray12 and if you need to better understand it, go read his post.
To recap it QUICKLY:
Buffalo most likely wont trade Eichel within the division, and bruins dont have any top tier prospects so they likely arent the target. HOWEVER if they ARE a possible target, here are the important points:
1. PASTA and MCAVOY are totally untouchable, and while he didnt say it, I think its important to note that they are nearly worth as much as Eichel as is so anyone saying "it starts with Pasta and a 1st" is totally wrong lmao
2. Eichel wanted out before the season, and if he continues to want out and struggle, his value will just keep getting lower and lower. Nobody needs to "overpay" to get him, quite the opposite actually (thats just facts lol)
Its pretty easy and obvious, so no calling me (or others) homers or anything dumb like that :)

I wrote a description for the trade, but then I refreshed and it disappeared so all you need to know is that it meets the Value correctly (fact), but its not a big quality piece like a Kakko or something, LIKE I SAID (so its not gonna happen, but if bruins WERE to be the team, this trade would be most accurate)
THESE ARE FULLY HEALTHY LINES (without Miller cuz he is a mess, but we love him lol)
Transactions
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BOS
  1. Eichel, Jack
Détails additionnels:
This is it! Thats what they get. Again, bruins are not gonna be the target because they cant offer quality rn (a top tier prospect), but this trade clearly is worth the correct value!
BUF
  1. Beecher, John [Liste de réserve]
  2. DeBrusk, Jake
  3. Kase, Ondrej
  4. Studnicka, Jack
  5. Zboril, Jakub
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
two top 6 Center Prospects.
A two 6 forward with room to grow
a top 6 forward with injury problems that could excel given a new location
2.
BOS
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
As he continues to prove, he is not a cap dump.
ANA
  1. Moore, John
Détails additionnels:
ANY TEAM
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1 mars 2021 à 15 h 29
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Where are the top six center prospects exactly?
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1 mars 2021 à 15 h 32
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Sabres decline
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1 mars 2021 à 15 h 32
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sorry my man. not a snowball's chance in hell this will happen.

realistic deals for eichel look like: zegras ++, byfield ++
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1 mars 2021 à 15 h 35
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this does interest me as a sabres fan, but i think buffalo will need to be blown away by boston to trade eichel within the division and i think LA, NYR, ANA, and MTL could offer better packages
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1 mars 2021 à 15 h 52
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I think Buffalo is going to need at least one top prospect in an Eichel deal. A bunch of middle 6 prospects/players won’t get it done.
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1 mars 2021 à 15 h 52
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Quoting: wojme
Where are the top six center prospects exactly?


Learn hockey lol

Quoting: SalamiCheese
Sabres decline


On pieces yes, on value no. Like i said

Quoting: Steve_321
sorry my man. not a snowball's chance in hell this will happen.

realistic deals for eichel look like: zegras ++, byfield ++


Literally exactly what I said.

Quoting: Sabres_Insider
this does interest me as a sabres fan, but i think buffalo will need to be blown away by boston to trade eichel within the division and i think LA, NYR, ANA, and MTL could offer better packages


Agreed. As I said
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Quoting: Mediumyeet
I think Buffalo is going to need at least one top prospect in an Eichel deal. A bunch of middle 6 prospects/players won’t get it done.


Like I said, damn shame bruins dont have one
1 mars 2021 à 16 h 19
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Why even bother making an eichal trade if you know it’s no good? The only pieces Boston has that BUF would be interested in would be McAvoy and Pasta, and they are untouchable. There is absolutely no trade here to be made
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1 mars 2021 à 16 h 39
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These replies man. You know someone is clueless about hockey when they don’t consider Studnicka a top prospect. I don’t know about the value of this particular trade but Studnicka is every bit a top prospect.
1 mars 2021 à 16 h 42
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Quoting: mhockey91
Why even bother making an eichal trade if you know it’s no good? The only pieces Boston has that BUF would be interested in would be McAvoy and Pasta, and they are untouchable. There is absolutely no trade here to be made


Because I want people to stop doing Eichel for Pasta, a 1st, and Studnicka. or McAvoy, a 1st, and Vaakanainein... idc.... im just tryna shed light on what realistically COULD happen lol
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These replies man. You know someone is clueless about hockey when they don’t consider Studnicka a top prospect. I don’t know about the value of this particular trade but Studnicka is every bit a top prospect.


I like Studnicka and he is clearly a top 6 prospect (so i told the guy earlier to learn hockey lol), but I wouldnt even call him a "top prospect". just gotta be realistic lol
1 mars 2021 à 16 h 45
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Because I want people to stop doing Eichel for Pasta, a 1st, and Studnicka. or McAvoy, a 1st, and Vaakanainein... idc.... im just tryna shed light on what realistically COULD happen lol


I would just rule out Eichal to Boston entirely. As you said, Boston won’t trade McAvoy or Pasta, but Boston also doesn’t have a blue chip tradeable young piece that some other teams have
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Quoting: mhockey91
I would just rule out Eichal to Boston entirely. As you said, Boston won’t trade McAvoy or Pasta, but Boston also doesn’t have a blue chip tradeable young piece that some other teams have


Believe me i said all that in my description, that was the point of this post was to say its NOT gonna happen, but if it does, this is the most likely trade (considering they arent moving Pasta, McAvoy, Carlo, and they dont have a top teir prospect.
1 mars 2021 à 19 h 8
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Quoting: kscoop
These replies man. You know someone is clueless about hockey when they don’t consider Studnicka a top prospect. I don’t know about the value of this particular trade but Studnicka is every bit a top prospect.


Studnicka is a good prospect. Middle 6 top out. A top prospect has first line potential.
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1 mars 2021 à 19 h 23
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Studnicka is a good prospect. Middle 6 top out. A top prospect has first line potential.


Yup. Thank you
1 mars 2021 à 19 h 23
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These replies man. You know someone is clueless about hockey when they don’t consider Studnicka a top prospect. I don’t know about the value of this particular trade but Studnicka is every bit a top prospect.


And the homer award of the day goes to:
1 mars 2021 à 21 h 14
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Quoting: BruinsCharlies
Studnicka is a good prospect. Middle 6 top out. A top prospect has first line potential.


Quoting: mhockey91
Yup. Thank you


Jack Studnicka is and has always been a top 6 prospect. John Beecher is and has always been a top 6 prospect. These arent made up

Quoting: mhockey91
And the homer award of the day goes to:


Notice MY OWN COMMENT SAYING: "but I wouldnt even call him a "top prospect". just gotta be realistic lol"
Call him a homer if you want to, i guess i agree.
but by no means do you have the right to, or the logical basis to, call me a homer or say im wrong. Im simply not lol

If you dont want to listen / learn thats on you and I cant change that. But i Know, and all rational people know, that this is a good trade
1 mars 2021 à 21 h 28
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Jack Studnicka is and has always been a top 6 prospect. John Beecher is and has always been a top 6 prospect. These arent made up



Notice MY OWN COMMENT SAYING: "but I wouldnt even call him a "top prospect". just gotta be realistic lol"
Call him a homer if you want to, i guess i agree.
but by no means do you have the right to, or the logical basis to, call me a homer or say im wrong. Im simply not lol

If you dont want to listen / learn thats on you and I cant change that. But i Know, and all rational people know, that this is a good trade


I never said you were a homer. I think Studnika could pencil in as a 2C in the NHL level. Good player, but not a “blue chip
Prospect”

As for the trade, like everyone else has said extensively, quantity does not equal quality.

You don’t get Eichal without moving a legitimate blue chip prospect / young player. Boston does not have that. There is zero trade to be made, especially since they are divisional teams.
1 mars 2021 à 22 h 57
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I never said you were a homer. I think Studnika could pencil in as a 2C in the NHL level. Good player, but not a “blue chip
Prospect”

As for the trade, like everyone else has said extensively, quantity does not equal quality.

You don’t get Eichal without moving a legitimate blue chip prospect / young player. Boston does not have that. There is zero trade to be made, especially since they are divisional teams.


Who told you that they don’t have a blue chip prospect? Just curious. Scott Wheeler? If Lohrei was a 1st round pick he’d be considered a blue chip prospect. Go watch game tape of him. Look at his stats and tell me he’s not a top prospect. I’m sick of people telling me the Bruins don’t have good prospects yet the team is always top 5 in the league. I bet you didn’t think Pastrnak was a top prospect when he was drafted based on where he was picked. Lauzon although hurt now playing 1st pairing minutes. Let me guess, not a good prospect. The list goes on.
1 mars 2021 à 22 h 58
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The Sabres have all the good prospects yet they stink every year.
2 mars 2021 à 7 h 41
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Who told you that they don’t have a blue chip prospect? Just curious. Scott Wheeler? If Lohrei was a 1st round pick he’d be considered a blue chip prospect. Go watch game tape of him. Look at his stats and tell me he’s not a top prospect. I’m sick of people telling me the Bruins don’t have good prospects yet the team is always top 5 in the league. I bet you didn’t think Pastrnak was a top prospect when he was drafted based on where he was picked. Lauzon although hurt now playing 1st pairing minutes. Let me guess, not a good prospect. The list goes on.


The Bruins don’t have any blue chip prospects lmfao. I never said they don’t have “good” prospects. I simply said they don’t have any blue chips. Bruins won the lottery with Pasta and McAvoy, getting studs in the later first round. However, those guys certainly overachieved their expectations. Lohori is not a top prospect lmfao cmon.
2 mars 2021 à 9 h 57
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Quoting: mhockey91
The Bruins don’t have any blue chip prospects lmfao. I never said they don’t have “good” prospects. I simply said they don’t have any blue chips. Bruins won the lottery with Pasta and McAvoy, getting studs in the later first round. However, those guys certainly overachieved their expectations. Lohori is not a top prospect lmfao cmon.


Mac and Pasta were rated higher than where they were selected. They did not overachieve. Teams just screwed up by passing. Both were ranked inside the top 15 for their draft.
2 mars 2021 à 11 h 29
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Mac and Pasta were rated higher than where they were selected. They did not overachieve. Teams just screwed up by passing. Both were ranked inside the top 15 for their draft.


https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2014/06/24/bob-mckenzies-2014-nhl-draft-rankings/

Every list had Pasta in late teens to early 30’s. He most certainly overachieved. Do some research before posting
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Quoting: mhockey91
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2014/06/24/bob-mckenzies-2014-nhl-draft-rankings/

Every list had Pasta in late teens to early 30’s. He most certainly overachieved. Do some research before posting


https://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2014/6/27/5846994/nhl-draft-rankings-2014-aaron-ekblad-sam-reinhart-top-60

13th here. Oops. 🤷🏻‍♂️
2 mars 2021 à 11 h 38
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Quoting: Userunknown
https://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2014/6/27/5846994/nhl-draft-rankings-2014-aaron-ekblad-sam-reinhart-top-60

13th here. Oops. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Sorry but I’m taking MacKenzie, Button’s, ISS, etc... lists over SBNation

Regardless, if they did a redraft of 2014, he goes top 3, so there is no debate he overachieved.
 
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