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Mantha

Créé par: Bias4bruins
Date de création initiale: 1 mars 2021
Publié: 1 mars 2021
Équipe: 2020-21 Bruins de Boston
Explications
Do we have anything Det wants? I just like Mantha and spit balling here but don’t really know his value. Tough to get grit and scoring these days though.
Transactions
1.
BOS
  1. Mantha, Anthony
DET
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Lauko, Jakub
  3. 2021 1e round pick (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Maybe instead
Beecher
Urho
1st?
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • David Backes: 1 500 000 $ (25%)
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BOS
BOS
BOS
TOR
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BOS
BOS
2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $82 805 648 $964 222 $2 532 500 $-1 305 648 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
BOS
Marchand, Brad
6 125 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
BOS
Bergeron, Patrice
6 875 000 $
C
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
Pastrnak, David
6 666 667 $
AD
UFA - 3
BOS
Ritchie, Nick
1 498 925 $
AG
UFA - 1
BOS
Coyle, Charlie
5 250 000 $
C, AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 6
DET
Mantha, Anthony
5 700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
BOS
Bjork, Anders
1 600 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
BOS
Studnicka, Jack
769 167 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
BOS
Smith, Craig
3 100 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
BOS
Kuhlman, Karson
725 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
BOS
Kuraly, Sean
1 275 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
BOS
Wagner, Chris
1 350 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
BOS
Vaakanainen, Urho
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 2
BOS
McAvoy, Charlie
4 900 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
BOS
Rask, Tuukka
7 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
BOS
Grzelcyk, Matt
3 687 500 $
DG
UFA - 4
BOS
Carlo, Brandon
2 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
BOS
Halák, Jaroslav
2 250 000 $
G
UFA - 1
BOS
Clifton, Connor
1 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
BOS
Zboril, Jakub
725 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
BOS
Tinordi, Jarred
700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
BOS
McKegg, Greg
700 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
BOS
Krejci, David
7 250 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 1
BOS
Moore, John
2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
BOS
Kase, Ondrej
2 600 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
BOS
Miller, Kevan
1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
BOS
Lauzon, Jérémy
850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
BOS
Frederic, Trent
925 000 $ (0 $)
C, AG
RFA - 1
BOS
Kampfer, Steven
800 000 $ (0 $)
DD
UFA - 1
BOS
Booth, Callum
700 000 $ (0 $)
G
RFA - 1

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1 mars à 11 h 54
#1
Banni
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They'd probably want Stud instead of DeBrusk, that's just my guess.
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1 mars à 11 h 55
#2
exo2769
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I'd be careful offering too much for Mantha. It just looks like he really doesn't want to put out effort right now. and I don't mean literal effort diving for pucks. I mean he doesn't even desire to try to be in the correct defensive positions. To me that's scarier than anything. It doesn't even look like he wants to play hockey right now.
Bias4bruins a aimé ceci.
1 mars à 11 h 55
#3
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Studnicka and a 2021 1st please.
buffbry a aimé ceci.
1 mars à 11 h 58
#4
Buffbry
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Beacher, debrusk and a first.

Also like swayman if can work that in somehow
1 mars à 11 h 59
#5
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Quoting: buffbry
Beacher, debrusk and a first.

Also like swayman if can work that in somehow


Too much upside in swayman can’t let him go lol
1 mars à 12 h 9
#6
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Never understood the Martha hype. Good player, but struggles to stay healthy and isn't great defensively.
1 mars à 12 h 21
#7
Banni
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Bruins reject. Come on man. Mathna isnt that big an upgrade from debrusk if he is at all
1 mars à 12 h 22
#8
Banni
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Quoting: buffbry
Beacher, debrusk and a first.

Also like swayman if can work that in somehow


Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
They'd probably want Stud instead of DeBrusk, that's just my guess.


Boys. Mantha is an upgrade from debrusk, but clearly not this big an upgrade. Bruins reject all of these offers.
Maybe debrusk and a 2nd for Mantha. but bruins still probably decline as they want a sniper

Come on be realistic here
1 mars à 12 h 28
#9
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Boys. Mantha is an upgrade from debrusk, but clearly not this big an upgrade. Bruins reject all of these offers.
Maybe debrusk and a 2nd for Mantha. but bruins still probably decline as they want a sniper

Come on be realistic here

Have you seen Mantha's shot?
1 mars à 12 h 37
#10
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Boys. Mantha is an upgrade from debrusk, but clearly not this big an upgrade. Bruins reject all of these offers.
Maybe debrusk and a 2nd for Mantha. but bruins still probably decline as they want a sniper

Come on be realistic here



I get what your saying, but it seems you have to pay extra for things you want now a days, especially on here. He brings a big body with some skill and that’s tough to find and what we need for any playoff run. Like I said before, don’t really know his true value cause I’m not a Det fan, but the bruins lack a few things with an aging core and he checks a few boxes.
1 mars à 13 h 11
#11
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Id pay Debrusk+1st max
1 mars à 13 h 23
#12
Banni
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Boys. Mantha is an upgrade from debrusk, but clearly not this big an upgrade. Bruins reject all of these offers.
Maybe debrusk and a 2nd for Mantha. but bruins still probably decline as they want a sniper

Come on be realistic here


Mantha has been a 40- 50 point player on the worst team in the league. DeBrusk has been a 30-40 point player on one of the best teams in the league...

Mantha doesn't make sense for Boston, but acting like Stud and a 1st wouldn't be a starter for Detroit is ridiculous.

DeBrusk and a 2nd is an easy decline for Detroit.
1 mars à 13 h 25
#13
Buffbry
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Boys. Mantha is an upgrade from debrusk, but clearly not this big an upgrade. Bruins reject all of these offers.
Maybe debrusk and a 2nd for Mantha. but bruins still probably decline as they want a sniper

Come on be realistic here


Then wings decline as well. We will get a good package for him if and when we decide to trade him. Debrusk + 2nd doenst move the needle and doesn't make sense. So we hold onto him
1 mars à 14 h 4
#14
Banni
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Quoting: BStinson
Have you seen Mantha's shot?


Quoting: Bias4bruins
I get what your saying, but it seems you have to pay extra for things you want now a days, especially on here. He brings a big body with some skill and that’s tough to find and what we need for any playoff run. Like I said before, don’t really know his true value cause I’m not a Det fan, but the bruins lack a few things with an aging core and he checks a few boxes.


Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Mantha has been a 40- 50 point player on the worst team in the league. DeBrusk has been a 30-40 point player on one of the best teams in the league...

Mantha doesn't make sense for Boston, but acting like Stud and a 1st wouldn't be a starter for Detroit is ridiculous.

DeBrusk and a 2nd is an easy decline for Detroit.


Quoting: buffbry
Then wings decline as well. We will get a good package for him if and when we decide to trade him. Debrusk + 2nd doenst move the needle and doesn't make sense. So we hold onto him


Im just being realistic and pointing out what the bruins would logically be willing to give up. If the wings dont like it, there might be another team in the market for him. Bruins arent it.
But yeah to say Debrusk and a 2nd "doesnt move the needle" is exactly my point, everyone just wants to rob the bruins on these trades lmaooooo
1 mars à 16 h 16
#15
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Im just being realistic and pointing out what the bruins would logically be willing to give up. If the wings dont like it, there might be another team in the market for him. Bruins arent it.
But yeah to say Debrusk and a 2nd "doesnt move the needle" is exactly my point, everyone just wants to rob the bruins on these trades lmaooooo


Wasn't robbing you, was stating his value from our side. I agree not a match
1 mars à 16 h 19
#16
Banni
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Quoting: buffbry
Wasn't robbing you, was stating his value from our side. I agree not a match


That being the case, my reccomendation for you would be to choose your words better.
"It doesnt move the needle" is what i would say to someone offering a 4th for Pasta, cuz that literally doesnt even add any value to a trade for pasta lol, that 4th is basically worthless.
In this case, not only does it move the needle, but its actually close to a good trade. so word choice is key lol
1 mars à 17 h 33
#17
Banni
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Im just being realistic and pointing out what the bruins would logically be willing to give up. If the wings dont like it, there might be another team in the market for him. Bruins arent it.
But yeah to say Debrusk and a 2nd "doesnt move the needle" is exactly my point, everyone just wants to rob the bruins on these trades lmaooooo


I'm pretty sure Debrusk and a 2nd is robbing Detroit...

I don't know why you always have to be a pain in the ass over the smallest things. It's a trade and not an extremely unrealistic one since Mantha is a RW.

You overrating your prospects is your problem, but if you honestly think the starting point for Detroit won't be a 1st and Stud then you shouldn't be on here. That's more than a fair and reasonable asking price value-wise.

This site is all about throwing out ideas and trying out new concepts and you're literally the only one that complains about these things. Delete your ****ing account.
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1 mars à 18 h 4
#18
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
I'm pretty sure Debrusk and a 2nd is robbing Detroit...

I don't know why you always have to be a pain in the ass over the smallest things. It's a trade and not an extremely unrealistic one since Mantha is a RW.

You overrating your prospects is your problem, but if you honestly think the starting point for Detroit won't be a 1st and Stud then you shouldn't be on here. That's more than a fair and reasonable asking price value-wise.

This site is all about throwing out ideas and trying out new concepts and you're literally the only one that complains about these things. Delete your ****ing account.


Absolutely 0 constructive criticism on this site, all about letting the hate out lol
1 mars à 21 h 10
#19
Banni
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
I'm pretty sure Debrusk and a 2nd is robbing Detroit...

I don't know why you always have to be a pain in the ass over the smallest things. It's a trade and not an extremely unrealistic one since Mantha is a RW.

You overrating your prospects is your problem, but if you honestly think the starting point for Detroit won't be a 1st and Stud then you shouldn't be on here. That's more than a fair and reasonable asking price value-wise.

This site is all about throwing out ideas and trying out new concepts and you're literally the only one that complains about these things. Delete your ****ing account.


Quoting: Bias4bruins
Absolutely 0 constructive criticism on this site, all about letting the hate out lol


Thats the problem. I usually am the only one giving people constructive criticism. "Boys. Mantha is an upgrade from debrusk, but clearly not this big an upgrade. Bruins reject all of these offers.
Maybe debrusk and a 2nd for Mantha. but bruins still probably decline as they want a sniper"
Literally constructive criticism lol, if you disagree, thats up to you, but dont tell me im "overrating prosepcts" (there are no prospects here LMAO), or that "Absolutely 0 constructive criticism" (when i gave constructive criticism, or "you're literally the only one that complains about these things" (just false LMAO)

Come on boys. Just be logical!! Thats all I ever ask!
1 mars à 21 h 26
#20
Banni
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Thats the problem. I usually am the only one giving people constructive criticism. "Boys. Mantha is an upgrade from debrusk, but clearly not this big an upgrade. Bruins reject all of these offers.
Maybe debrusk and a 2nd for Mantha. but bruins still probably decline as they want a sniper"
Literally constructive criticism lol, if you disagree, thats up to you, but dont tell me im "overrating prosepcts" (there are no prospects here LMAO), or that "Absolutely 0 constructive criticism" (when i gave constructive criticism, or "you're literally the only one that complains about these things" (just false LMAO)

Come on boys. Just be logical!! Thats all I ever ask!


You need a RW, DeBrusk plays LW. Mantha is an upgrade over Kase. Yeah definitely no logic here....
2 mars à 11 h 57
#21
Banni
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
You need a RW, DeBrusk plays LW. Mantha is an upgrade over Kase. Yeah definitely no logic here....


What happens when we trade away debrusk. Oh yeah now we need a LW lol.
Creating holes to fill other holes doesnt solve problems

Me = All Logic, You = forgetting important info lol
Dont try man, its a losing battle
2 mars à 12 h 2
#22
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Thats the problem. I usually am the only one giving people constructive criticism. "Boys. Mantha is an upgrade from debrusk, but clearly not this big an upgrade. Bruins reject all of these offers.
Maybe debrusk and a 2nd for Mantha. but bruins still probably decline as they want a sniper"
Literally constructive criticism lol, if you disagree, thats up to you, but dont tell me im "overrating prosepcts" (there are no prospects here LMAO), or that "Absolutely 0 constructive criticism" (when i gave constructive criticism, or "you're literally the only one that complains about these things" (just false LMAO)

Come on boys. Just be logical!! Thats all I ever ask!

I gave you feedback. Mantha is a sniper. I even asked if you’ve seen his shot but you quoted me and didn’t even answer my question but went onto some irrelevant tangent about how you’d turn down Debrusk + 2nd and everyone tries to rob the Bruins. If you need a big bodied RW sniper that is extremely mobile for his size then Mantha is your man.
2 mars à 12 h 41
#23
Banni
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Quoting: BStinson
I gave you feedback. Mantha is a sniper. I even asked if you’ve seen his shot but you quoted me and didn’t even answer my question but went onto some irrelevant tangent about how you’d turn down Debrusk + 2nd and everyone tries to rob the Bruins. If you need a big bodied RW sniper that is extremely mobile for his size then Mantha is your man.


I offered debrusk and a 2nd lol. Come on man
2 mars à 13 h 11
#24
Banni
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
What happens when we trade away debrusk. Oh yeah now we need a LW lol.
Creating holes to fill other holes doesnt solve problems

Me = All Logic, You = forgetting important info lol
Dont try man, its a losing battle


Ok big headed little guy... I literally said Detroit wouldn't want DeBrusk they'd want Stud and a 1st or something like that. You're the one that said "DeBrusk and a 2nd"

I guess that's what happens when you get lazy, can't read, and reply to 2 people at the same time...

Quit being a moron.
2 mars à 13 h 48
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
I offered debrusk and a 2nd lol. Come on man


I responded to you for saying “Maybe debrusk and a 2nd for Mantha. but bruins still probably decline as they want a sniper

Come on be realistic here”

Mantha = sniper, so I’d wager you’ve never seen him play or only a couple games. No point in Detroit downgrading in wingers for a late second round pick. We also aren’t great trading partners either.
 
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