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Eichel

Créé par: HockeyFanUSA
Date de création initiale: fév 28, 2021
Publié: 28 fév à 20 h 51
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Transactions
COL
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Ullmark, Linus
BUF
  1. Byram, Bowen
  2. Newhook, Alex [Liste de réserve]
  3. Burakovsky, André
  4. Compher, J.T.
  5. Miska, Hunter
  6. Foudy, Jean-Luc [Liste de réserve]
  7. 2021 1e round pick (COL)
  8. 2022 1e round pick (COL)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Ian Cole: 800 000 $ (19%)
Enfoui
  • Greg Pateryn: 1 175 000 $ (2 250 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
COL
COL
COL
COL
2022
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
2023
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1981 500 000 $82 176 387 $0 $2 500 000 $-676 387 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
COL
Landeskog, Gabriel
5 571 429 $
AG, C
NTC
UFA - 1
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
6 300 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
9 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
COL
Saad, Brandon
5 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
COL
Calvert, Matt
2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
COL
Kadri, Nazem
4 500 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
COL
Donskoi, Joonas
3 900 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
COL
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
1 800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
COL
Jost, Tyson
874 125 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
COL
Girard, Samuel
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 7
COL
Makar, Cale
880 833 $
DD
RFA - 1
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 1
COL
Toews, Devon
4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
COL
Graves, Ryan
3 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 3
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 1
COL
MacDonald, Jacob
725 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
COL
Timmins, Conor
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
COL
Johnson, Erik
6 000 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Francouz, Pavel
2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
COL
Gilbert, Dennis
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
COL
Werner, Adam
842 500 $ (0 $)
G
RFA - 1
COL
Dries, Sheldon
771 750 $ (0 $)
C
UFA - 1
COL
Sherwood, Kiefer
750 000 $ (0 $)
AD, C
RFA - 1
COL
O'Connor, Logan
725 000 $ (0 $)
AD
RFA - 2
COL
Renouf, Daniel
700 000 $ (0 $)
DG
UFA - 1

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28 fév à 20 h 52
#1
stop weegar trades
Rejoint: oct 2020
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Look at the cap...
And you can't re-sign Makar...
Even if the Avs needed to do this it wouldn't be worth it at all
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28 fév à 20 h 55
#2
Ferda
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If buffalo really wants to move hjm they take that. Byram and newhook is alot
28 fév à 20 h 57
#3
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Deal
28 fév à 20 h 57
#4
Sabres Fanatic
Rejoint: mar 2016
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Good offer, remove Ullmark because Sabres need a G
28 fév à 21 h 09
#5
Rejoint: aoû 2020
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Ridiculous COL isn’t doing that, you are over the cap AND short a RW, and put the team in cap hell. Congratulations you destroyed a cup contending team with one trade.
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28 fév à 21 h 16
#6
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Deal


sabres fans makes trade that sabres fan agrees to bc it benefits the sabres and not the avs....this and more at news at 10
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28 fév à 21 h 19
#7
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Quoting: coga16
sabres fans makes trade that sabres fan agrees to bc it benefits the sabres and not the avs....this and more at news at 10


Well I didn't know he was a Sabers fan. but I still saw a lot of AVS fans deals for Eichel with Byram and Newhook as base.
28 fév à 21 h 21
#8
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Well I didn't know he was a Sabers fan. but I still saw a lot of AVS fans deals for Eichel with Byram and Newhook as base.


I dont think many avs fans are sending Byram and Newhook in trades, most avs fans dont want to even consider an Eichel trade bc its a constant topic of conversation, how the avs navigate the cap next year...eichel hurts that, and with no high end ELCs in newhook and Byram it compounds that issue and makes them worse off fill out the roster.

9 times out of 10 if anyone is posting an Avs trading for Crosby, Eichel etc its another fan base not avs fans TBH
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28 fév à 21 h 24
#9
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Quoting: coga16
I dont think many avs fans are sending Byram and Newhook in trades, most avs fans dont want to even consider an Eichel trade bc its a constant topic of conversation, how the avs navigate the cap next year...eichel hurts that, and with no high end ELCs in newhook and Byram it compounds that issue and makes them worse off fill out the roster.

9 times out of 10 if anyone is posting an Avs trading for Crosby, Eichel etc its another fan base not avs fans TBH


Not here at hfboards and they were AVS fans. Yes, I understand that ELCs will be important, unless just making the cap work, but it's fair if you don't want to give your two best prospects, but this is cost.
28 fév à 21 h 26
#10
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Not here at hfboards and they were AVS fans. Yes, I understand that ELCs will be important, unless just making the cap work, but it's fair if you don't want to give your two best prospects, but this is cost.


thats why its not worth it, Byram and Newhook + 8m in additional cap space to fill out the rest of the Top 6 or Top 4 is more valuable to the Avs vs adding Eichel who arguable would be the Avs 3rd best player on the team behind Mackinnon and Makar (hes making a Norris case as a sophomore, thats a special talent), it doesnt make any sense at the price it would cost
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28 fév à 21 h 33
#11
Rejoint: avr 2020
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Not here at hfboards and they were AVS fans. Yes, I understand that ELCs will be important, unless just making the cap work, but it's fair if you don't want to give your two best prospects, but this is cost.


I would give up both if Eichel was making what MacKinnon is (or if the cap were rising as normal), but the flat cap just makes it impossible.
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28 fév à 21 h 33
#12
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Quoting: coga16
thats why its not worth it, Byram and Newhook + 8m in additional cap space to fill out the rest of the Top 6 or Top 4 is more valuable to the Avs vs adding Eichel who arguable would be the Avs 3rd best player on the team behind Mackinnon and Makar (hes making a Norris case as a sophomore, thats a special talent), it doesnt make any sense at the price it would cost


Fair enough
28 fév à 21 h 34
#13
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
I would give up both if Eichel was making what MacKinnon is (or if the cap were rising as normal), but the flat cap just makes it impossible.


I mean you don't have a cap dump on 10-12 million?
28 fév à 21 h 37
#14
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
Fair enough


I dont know what the sabres answer is if Eichel wants to be traded, its Never a knock on him that the Avs wouldnt be inserted at the price, hes still 1 hell of a talent, one of the leagues best.
its almost an impossible trade to craft bc there is no precedent in recent memory of such a high end talent being traded at this point of their career unless its a pure talent for talent PLD for Laine type of blockbuster
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28 fév à 21 h 40
#15
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
I mean you don't have a cap dump on 10-12 million?


I have tried and just can't get to a place that makes sense without the Sabres retaining. And they won't do that so I gave it up. Those pictures in my head of Eichel, MacKinnon, and Makar in 3v3 play will have to remain just that.
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1 mar à 10 h 05
#16
Representing the 505
Rejoint: sep 2020
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Everyone needs to remember that the Mac situation is extremely unique - nobody of his skill-set and accomplishment has that kind of contract at his age. It was a perfect storm that has worked out in the Avs favor. Had he signed a bridge for, say, 3 years and still done the same things on the ice, he's easily making $10M right now, if not more and the Avs don't have nearly the same roster as they do. So, adding a guy like Eichel, which would be awesome to have, is completely impractical in a salary cap world but even more pronounced with a flat-cap. Right now, the name of the game is managing the cap with the core players (Mac, Landy, Mikko, Makar) they have and filling in around them, not adding someone like Eichel.
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1 mar à 13 h 01
#17
Dirty_dangles_37
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Quoting: coga16
sabres fans makes trade that sabres fan agrees to bc it benefits the sabres and not the avs....this and more at news at 10


id accept
 
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