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27 févr. 2021 à 16 h 24
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No. And it's not close
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27 févr. 2021 à 16 h 24
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Quantity doesn’t make quality. Easy no.
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27 févr. 2021 à 16 h 29
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Not even in the ballpark for Jack Eichel, probably any deal for Eichel starts with Charlie McAvoy for a starter.
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27 févr. 2021 à 16 h 32
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BOS doesn't have the right pieces for Eichel
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27 févr. 2021 à 16 h 32
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Sabres decline
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27 févr. 2021 à 16 h 33
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No, not close
Even though he’s “unhappy” we’re losing, he’s still under contract for 5 more years
So we’re in no hurry to accept an offer where you’d get him at a deal
Plus about half the league will be bidding on him

It’s gonna take Carlo +++
And that’s if we’d even consider trading him to the Buins,
& there’s a good chance we wouldn’t
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27 févr. 2021 à 16 h 38
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BOS doesn't have the right pieces for Eichel


Yes they do, it's just pieces they won't trade
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27 févr. 2021 à 16 h 38
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No, not close
Even though he’s “unhappy” we’re losing, he’s still under contract for 5 more years
So we’re in no hurry to accept an offer where you’d get him at a deal
Plus about half the league will be bidding on him

It’s gonna take Carlo +++
And that’s if we’d even consider trading him to the Buins,
& there’s a good chance we wouldn’t


Boston is better off waiting to see if Barkov hits UFA after next year. Cost no assets and imo Barkov is a better all around player.
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27 févr. 2021 à 16 h 43
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Boston is better off waiting to see if Barkov hits UFA after next year. Cost no assets and imo Barkov is a better all around player.


Maybe
Point is.... whoever trades for Eichel is gonna have to pay up to get the Sabres to even think about moving him
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27 févr. 2021 à 16 h 47
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Not even in the ballpark for Jack Eichel, probably any deal for Eichel starts with Charlie McAvoy for a starter.


NO stop with this lmao
nobody thinks that except delusional buffalo fans
27 févr. 2021 à 16 h 48
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Point is.... whoever trades for Eichel is gonna have to pay up to get the Sabres to even think about moving him


No, Eichel wanted out, and after this year it isnt going to get better.
Buffalo is gonna need to see that they will have to discount A LITTLE BIT or nobody is gonna take him until he becomes a free agent or declines to play for the sabres
In saying that, the bruins are not the team to trade because they dont have the right pieces
27 févr. 2021 à 16 h 49
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Yes they do, it's just pieces they won't trade


Sure, but same thing -- they don't have pieces they can give up to get Eichel. Their prospect pool is too bare to have any advantage over other teams unless they're offering McAvoy or Pasta -- which they won't.
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27 févr. 2021 à 17 h 16
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Maybe
Point is.... whoever trades for Eichel is gonna have to pay up to get the Sabres to even think about moving him


I dont disagree. Right now Buffalo has zero pressure to trade Eichel. Next year maybe a different story though
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27 févr. 2021 à 17 h 19
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No. And it's not close


What do you think his value is? The thought of McAvoy is a joke to be honest.

Eichel is a good player, but he is not in the category of Matthews, McDavid, Draistaitl, McKinnon, Barkov or Schiefele. He just isn't. He is in that next tier and he wants out.

Just try and remember what you got for ROR, who... went on to Win a Cup, it turns out it wasn't his fault.

You will end up with something similar to this deal, maybe not from the the Bruins, but some team, It almost as to happen because of salary, or if a Guy like Pettersen or Aho wanted out.
27 févr. 2021 à 17 h 38
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I dont disagree. Right now Buffalo has zero pressure to trade Eichel. Next year maybe a different story though


True
But at the end of the day- even if Eichel asks out- we still have him locked up for a while
So the choice is ours
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27 févr. 2021 à 18 h 5
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True
But at the end of the day- even if Eichel asks out- we still have him locked up for a while
So the choice is ours


Full NMC kicks in after next year, at which point Eichel calls the shots on a trade. Does that mean Buffalo has to trade him? No, but what organization wants to keep a guy around who wants out? At least if they move him before his NMC they can take the best offer. If they wait till after they may only have a few teams they can negotiate with.
27 févr. 2021 à 19 h 18
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Full NMC kicks in after next year, at which point Eichel calls the shots on a trade. Does that mean Buffalo has to trade him? No, but what organization wants to keep a guy around who wants out? At least if they move him before his NMC they can take the best offer. If they wait till after they may only have a few teams they can negotiate with.


Sure. Who knows how big Eichel’s list would be?
Probably big enough to still get a great return-
otherwise just keep him
Bc i don’t wanna see him leave anyways
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27 févr. 2021 à 19 h 21
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Sure. Who knows how big Eichel’s list would be?
Probably big enough to still get a great return-
otherwise just keep him
Bc i don’t wanna see him leave anyways


Its not just the size of the list though, its also who can handle taking on his cap hit lol. If he's unhappy in Buffalo and wants out, why would you want that guy being the captain of your team and the "leader" of your locker room? Are you going to strip him of the "C" because that's not going to do anything but piss him off even more. Are you going to bench him? He won't do you much good sitting up in the press box.
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27 févr. 2021 à 19 h 25
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A BUF-BOS eichel trade won’t work. boston dosent have the pieces that buffalo would like
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27 févr. 2021 à 19 h 47
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A BUF-BOS eichel trade won’t work. boston dosent have the pieces that buffalo would like


Oh they have the pieces, but Boston won't move them.
27 févr. 2021 à 21 h 19
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Its not just the size of the list though, its also who can handle taking on his cap hit lol. If he's unhappy in Buffalo and wants out, why would you want that guy being the captain of your team and the "leader" of your locker room? Are you going to strip him of the "C" because that's not going to do anything but piss him off even more. Are you going to bench him? He won't do you much good sitting up in the press box.


No, it’s not who can take on the Cap hit
That’s just dumb
The Sabres can take salary back

Teams will be more than happy to rearrange their salary structure for a player of Eichel’s caliber

U wanna worry about what the list MIGHT look like in a few years? Fine, go ahead
As for all your other questions....
that’s all above my pay grade.
Too many ppl are acting like he’s already requested a trade outta here

I’ll worry about that WHEN- AND IF- it actually ever happens
And if it did....
I’m not worried 1 bit what we’d get back for him
It will be A TON

But hopefully we don’t even trade him
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27 févr. 2021 à 21 h 30
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Oh they have the pieces, but Boston won't move them.


“Pieces that Buffalo wouldn’t like”
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27 févr. 2021 à 21 h 38
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No, it’s not who can take on the Cap hit
That’s just dumb
The Sabres can take salary back

Teams will be more than happy to rearrange their salary structure for a player of Eichel’s caliber

U wanna worry about what the list MIGHT look like in a few years? Fine, go ahead
As for all your other questions....
that’s all above my pay grade.
Too many ppl are acting like he’s already requested a trade outta here

I’ll worry about that WHEN- AND IF- it actually ever happens
And if it did....
I’m not worried 1 bit what we’d get back for him
It will be A TON

But hopefully we don’t even trade him


Oh I'm not worried about what a list might look like, I personally don't care lol. I'm just enjoying watching how the whole thing unfolds.
27 févr. 2021 à 21 h 40
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“Pieces that Buffalo wouldn’t like”


You mean to tell me Buffalo wouldn't like Pastrnak or McAvoy lol
27 févr. 2021 à 22 h 39
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What do you think his value is? The thought of McAvoy is a joke to be honest.

Eichel is a good player, but he is not in the category of Matthews, McDavid, Draistaitl, McKinnon, Barkov or Schiefele. He just isn't. He is in that next tier and he wants out.

Just try and remember what you got for ROR, who... went on to Win a Cup, it turns out it wasn't his fault.

You will end up with something similar to this deal, maybe not from the the Bruins, but some team, It almost as to happen because of salary, or if a Guy like Pettersen or Aho wanted out.


You're right the thought of McAvoy is joke cause that wouldn't be close either.
You are absolutely wrong about eichel not being in that category.
McDavid and MacKinnon are clear cut above the rest.
Next tier would be drai eichel Matthew's point and schieffle.
Eichel is 24 under contract for 5 years. Don't compare to ROR this situation isn't remotely close. And neither are the players.

Eichel won't be traded for anything less than a potential replacement and some secondary pieces. Boston does not have anything remotely close to fit that mold. They won't want current players and won't want defense they have their #1 they will work around with dahlin. So why would your 1c return a #2 dman. It doesn't make sense.

I think I have been more than reasonable with the prospect of trading eichel but please not even adding your beat prospect is an insult
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