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The Sharks 3 Paths - PT3 - lets rebuild

Créé par: yikes
Équipe: 2020-21 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 24 févr. 2021
Publié: 26 févr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The best option imo

Hertl trade happens at 2020-21 TDL (could swap Ty out for another just thought Ty projects to be a middle 6/ bottom 6 guy with upside so seemed like a fair prospect to grab due to Harley being a great grab)
Burns gone (no biggy if he stays doesn’t affect my rebuild)
Meier goes for equal or more value then Hertl
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
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CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Beniers, Matthew
3876 240 $
LHeureux, Zachary
3975 000 $
Sillinger, Cole
3975 000 $
Wright, Shane
3892 344 $
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1.
SJS
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
All involved in small TDL trades or movement
2.
SJS
    Seattle or whatever a contract is move blah blah
    ANA
    1. Burns, Brent
    2. Donato, Ryan
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
    3.
    SJS
    1. Dellandrea, Ty
    2. Harley, Thomas
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (DAL)
    Détails additionnels:
    Pavs and Hertl combine to a lethal sharks duo in Dallas - with a near 2 m cap hit for 1.5 seasons Dallas loads up for another cup run at TDL
    DAL
    1. Hertl, Tomas (2 300 000 $ retained)
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
    Détails additionnels:
    TDL move, if money needs to be moved the Sharks take back whatever Dallas doesn’t want
    4.
    SJS
    1. Barré-Boulet, Alex
    2. Johnson, Tyler
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
    Détails additionnels:
    Off-season move
    TBL
    1. True, Alex
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
    5.
    SJS
      SJS #4: Matthew Beniers
      DAL #25-32: Zachary L’Heureux
      TBL
      1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (SJS)
      2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (DAL)
      6.
      SJS
      1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
      Détails additionnels:
      Labanc is moved for a first on draft day 10-20 OA to whomever and whatever
      ANA
      1. Labanc, Kevin
      Détails additionnels:
      Placeholder team
      7.
      SJS
        Selection 10-20 OA: one of the three
        Daniil Chayka
        Cole Sillinger
        Aatu Raty
        ANA
        1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
        8.
        SJS
        1. Mastrosimone, Robert [Liste de réserve]
        2. McIsaac, Jared
        3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (DET)
        4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DET)
        Détails additionnels:
        Traded at 2022 TDL to a team in need of a winger while they’re on the come up (just went with Detroit but it could any team rising, just a placeholder)

        *Top 5 protected*
        9.
        SJS
        1. Okposo, Kyle
        2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
        3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
        Détails additionnels:
        2 years left on a poor contract, only done if Buffalo is actually attempting to compete successfully. This could be any team looking to dump a tough contract. Just chose Buffalo for now. Pick is top 10 protected no matter what.
        BUF
        10.
        SJS
          SJS: Wright
          DET and Buffalo *PLACEHOLDERS* :
          1 D prospect and 1 sniper prospect
          TBL : Late 1st/ early second ranked goalie of there is one or BPA
          BUF
          1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
          2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
          3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (DET)
          4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
          11.
          SJS
            SJS 2022-2023 Starting Lineup
            ANA
              Leonard - Couture - Kane
              Balcers - Barre Boulet - Chmelevski
              Johnson - Wright - Dellandrea/ Beniers
              Gregor/Dellandrea - Beniers/ Gregor - Wiesblatt

              Ferraro - Karlsson
              Harley - Merkley
              McIssac - Knyzhov

              Melnichuk
              Korenar
              Jones
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              26 févr. 2021 à 13 h 6
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              I wouldnt give up the 22 first for you guys to take skinner. So i have no interest in moving it for okposo.
              26 févr. 2021 à 13 h 6
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              Quoting: sabres89
              I wouldnt give up the 22 first for you guys to take skinner. So i have no interest in moving it for okposo.


              Please read the trade description, has nothing to do with Buffalo directly - they’re a placeholder
              26 févr. 2021 à 13 h 24
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              A rebuild is definitely what the sharks need, and a few other teams too. I think keeping Meier would be smart though as he’s still super young, and that’s a player that you should build around. Your good young players you should be keeping.
              26 févr. 2021 à 13 h 26
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              Probably best long term but painful. I actually wrote a whole article about this (shameless plug I know) (https://thehockeywriters.com/sharks-rebuilding-options-gambling-shedding-salary-full-rebuild/). I had a limit so I couldn't expand more, but this makes the most sense. Honestly I think we should move Kane before Hertl (the only argument is injury). Our depth of wingers is currently much better and able to replace him, unless Labanc and Meier are traded. I mean all 25 and younger we have the following top 6/9 guys that could make the roster next season: Meier Labanc Donato Leno Blichy Dahlen Chekhovich Gregor Balcers and I'm guessing I miss some. I've structured rebuilds differently, but I don't disagree with this method.

              I think moving Donato and Labanc makes little sense, I'd want one just because I think they both have more to give and Labanc could be a long time player
              26 févr. 2021 à 13 h 28
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              2022 picks...for TBL (late), DET, BUF picks (am guessing both between 8-16)

              1 D prospect: Simon Nemec or Tristan Luneau
              1 sniper prospect: Ike Howard
              Late 1st/ early second ranked goalie of there is one or BPA: Gibson Homer or the Elias kid from Slovakia

              Loaded draft...those picks will be expensive
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              26 févr. 2021 à 13 h 31
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              Quoting: jfrojelin
              Probably best long term but painful. I actually wrote a whole article about this (shameless plug I know) (https://thehockeywriters.com/sharks-rebuilding-options-gambling-shedding-salary-full-rebuild/). I had a limit so I couldn't expand more, but this makes the most sense. Honestly I think we should move Kane before Hertl (the only argument is injury). Our depth of wingers is currently much better and able to replace him, unless Labanc and Meier are traded. I mean all 25 and younger we have the following top 6/9 guys that could make the roster next season: Meier Labanc Donato Leno Blichy Dahlen Chekhovich Gregor Balcers and I'm guessing I miss some. I've structured rebuilds differently, but I don't disagree with this method.

              I think moving Donato and Labanc makes little sense, I'd want one just because I think they both have more to give and Labanc could be a long time player


              I think this is the best in every way but I disagree that Kane is better to move. Hertl is more appealing I think but more so I think Kane is just so hard to handle. I like him and hate him, and he’s a hard sell. We fleeced Buffalo for him but I doubt we could sell him high. A better way to put it would be a team would need to buy him from us; they’d need to be the ones chasing him. And that situation I can’t predict so I just leave Kane with us for now. Since I know many teams would love Hertl it’s easy to project.

              And I actually had kept Labanc but I just wanted Sillinger in our pool; but yeah we’re on the same page there!
              26 févr. 2021 à 13 h 34
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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              2022 picks...for TBL (late), DET, BUF picks (am guessing both between 8-16)

              1 D prospect: Simon Nemec or Tristan Luneau
              1 sniper prospect: Ike Howard
              Late 1st/ early second ranked goalie of there is one or BPA: Gibson Homer or the Elias kid from Slovakia

              Loaded draft...those picks will be expensive


              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              2022 picks...for TBL (late), DET, BUF picks (am guessing both between 8-16)

              1 D prospect: Simon Nemec or Tristan Luneau
              1 sniper prospect: Ike Howard
              Late 1st/ early second ranked goalie of there is one or BPA: Gibson Homer or the Elias kid from Slovakia

              Loaded draft...those picks will be expensive


              The Detroit pick would be a team on the come up so a playoff team so more likely 12-18 and Buffalo would be any team dumping a contract so it could be 12-18 or 18-28.

              I think most are fair moves to acquire those firsts. Definitely will be a exciting draft especially if we hold both drafts in the same week. Could result in a ton of movement we haven’t seen before.
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              26 févr. 2021 à 14 h 0
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              Value may be fair, but I don't see Dallas making any moves that significantly impact their youth. They are currently one of the oldest teams in the NHL & are on the verge of needing to begin a rebuild. Keeping Harley, Dellandrea, and the 1st Round Pick make the rebuild a little easier to stomach & hopefully speeds up the process. Losing all 3 of them elongates the rebuild.

              Given the current state of the Stars, I just don't see a trade like this happening.
              26 févr. 2021 à 14 h 6
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              Quoting: yikes
              The Detroit pick would be a team on the come up so a playoff team so more likely 12-18 and Buffalo would be any team dumping a contract so it could be 12-18 or 18-28.

              I think most are fair moves to acquire those firsts. Definitely will be a exciting draft especially if we hold both drafts in the same week. Could result in a ton of movement we haven’t seen before.


              a 2022 mock draft: https://www.capfriendly.com/mock-draft/160951
              (by me)
              26 févr. 2021 à 14 h 32
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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              2022 picks...for TBL (late), DET, BUF picks (am guessing both between 8-16)

              1 D prospect: Simon Nemec or Tristan Luneau
              1 sniper prospect: Ike Howard
              Late 1st/ early second ranked goalie of there is one or BPA: Gibson Homer or the Elias kid from Slovakia

              Loaded draft...those picks will be expensive


              Quoting: yikes
              The Detroit pick would be a team on the come up so a playoff team so more likely 12-18 and Buffalo would be any team dumping a contract so it could be 12-18 or 18-28.

              I think most are fair moves to acquire those firsts. Definitely will be a exciting draft especially if we hold both drafts in the same week. Could result in a ton of movement we haven’t seen before.


              I do appreciate the optimism for Detroit but have you seen them play? Detroit will be in the bottom 5 next season. It's not just their play its the teams around them are getting better as well.
              26 févr. 2021 à 14 h 40
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              Quoting: aedoran
              I do appreciate the optimism for Detroit but have you seen them play? Detroit will be in the bottom 5 next season. It's not just their play its the teams around them are getting better as well.

              He’s just using us as a placeholder. No one in their right mind is saying Detroit will be a bubble team in 2022. Detroit also doesn’t make sense for the fact wingers are strength vs D and C.
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              26 févr. 2021 à 14 h 42
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              Quoting: BStinson
              He’s just using us as a placeholder. No one in their right mind is saying Detroit will be a bubble team in 2022. Detroit also doesn’t make sense for the fact wingers are strength vs D and C.


              I see thanks for the assist.
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              26 févr. 2021 à 14 h 52
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              Quoting: aedoran
              I do appreciate the optimism for Detroit but have you seen them play? Detroit will be in the bottom 5 next season. It's not just their play its the teams around them are getting better as well.


              I had them picking 3rd in 2022 https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/422451
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              26 févr. 2021 à 16 h 57
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              I like this option a good bit but one nitpicky change I would make is trading Meier to DAL instead of Hertl. Meier was at his peak when he was playing with Pavs I think they would probably hit it off better than Pavs-Hertl. But yeah I don't mind any of these moves - this seems like the best option as of now.
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