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Lindholm and Gaudreau

Créé par: Eli
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 25 févr. 2021
Publié: 25 févr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
On the CGY side, someone suggested Nylander for Lindholm this morning. That's not fair because Nylander is two years younger, more consistent on offense, just as good on defense, with a higher ceiling in terms of his potential if he plays top line and top power play. It wouldn't move the needle for Toronto.

But Toronto could use a #1LW, maybe? It wouldn't hurt to add one.

Does this look fair? If not, who adds what?
Transactions
TOR
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny (1 137 634 $ retained)
  2. Lindholm, Elias
Détails additionnels:
(retained so the cap balances exactly)
CGY
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Nylander, William
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $81 024 741 $0 $0 $475 259 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 612 366 $5 612 366 $
AG
UFA - 2
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
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700 000 $700 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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1 645 000 $1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
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UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 4
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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800 000 $800 000 $
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RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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874 125 $874 125 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD, AG
UFA - 1

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25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 25
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Not even close
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25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 25
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GO FLAMES GO
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Not even close


Leafs add a lot
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25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 26
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Big no from the Flames
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25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 27
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What in tarnation
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Disaster for Flames. Lindholm for Nylander is more or less a wash, so it's technically Kerfoot+2nd for Gaudreau.
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25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 29
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Quoting: justaBoss
Disaster for Flames. Lindholm for Nylander is more or less a wash, so it's technically Kerfoot+2nd for Gaudreau.


How? Nylander's slightly better at defense and offense, except for the one year that Lindholm was a stopgap on Calgary's top power play unit and got a lot of easy points.

Nylander has three years over 20 goals and 45 points, without really cracking his team's top power play. Lindholm has one year at that level (and added a ton of PPP that year). Calgary can overrate him off of that, if they want to, but then the Leafs are keeping Nylander, who is younger, just as good defensively, and has a higher ceiling offensively.
25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 29
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That's a hell of a sexy trade for the Leafs. Can't see Calgary having any interest in that.
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25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 29
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Quoting: Eli
How? Nylander's slightly better at defense and offense, except for the one year that Lindholm was a stopgap on Calgary's top power play unit and got a lot of easy points.


Nylander is better at defense??
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25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 30
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How? Nylander's slightly better at defense and offense, except for the one year that Lindholm was a stopgap on Calgary's top power play unit and got a lot of easy points.


Lindholm's better on defense. Last three years combined Lindholm has more points. And lastly Lindholm's ability to play C makes him invaluable for Flames.

Sorry but this is an easy no.
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25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 33
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Quoting: Eli
How? Nylander's slightly better at defense and offense, except for the one year that Lindholm was a stopgap on Calgary's top power play unit and got a lot of easy points.


Nylandre is slightly better at defense? i dont think Flames would consider a lindholm for nylander straight up, then factor in Gaudreau for kerfoot n a second and thats not even remotely close. That pick would need to be a first, with either a prospect and or another pick probably atleast a 3rd
25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 46
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In fairness it's not Kerfoot for Bennett but it sure is worse! This is outrageously bad for the Flames
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25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 49
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Leafs add a lot


Maybe... but Nylander's got better puck possession and much more consistent offense than Lindholm, and he's two years younger, and would be a better option as a #1C between Tkachuk and Mangiapane for the next decade, so really, they might not have to add much.
25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 50
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GO FLAMES GO
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Quoting: Eli
Maybe... but Nylander's got better puck possession and much more consistent offense than Lindholm, and he's two years younger, and would be a better option as a #1C between Tkachuk and Mangiapane for the next decade, so really, they might not have to add much.


Lindholm is our best contract and Gaudreau has been our best skater this year
25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 51
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Quoting: Eli
Maybe... but Nylander's got better puck possession and much more consistent offense than Lindholm, and he's two years younger, and would be a better option as a #1C between Tkachuk and Mangiapane for the next decade, so really, they might not have to add much.


Delusional
25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 57
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Lindholm's better on defense. Last three years combined Lindholm has more points. And lastly Lindholm's ability to play C makes him invaluable for Flames.

Sorry but this is an easy no.


Lindholm hits more, but still not very much. Nylander has better corsi. Both are pretty good on PK and faceoffs. Since the start of last season, Nylander has nine more even strength points than Lindholm. Nine more. Yeah, Lindholm had one big year. But that's all he's really shown. Nylander's pretty consistently on a 60 point pace, without significant power play time. A Flames fan posted asking what it would take to get him. This is what I think it would take. I'm not even much of Leafs fan. Just a realist. Feel free to counter, but I didn't start this conversation, and I don't care where Nylander plays.
25 févr. 2021 à 12 h 57
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Delusional


I'm not even reporting the abuse, but maybe read the rules, here, because they suspend people for calling each other "stupid."
25 févr. 2021 à 13 h 10
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NO thanks...cheers
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26 févr. 2021 à 0 h 47
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Quoting: Eli
I'm not even reporting the abuse, but maybe read the rules, here, because they suspend people for calling each other "stupid."


I will cut you some slack cause there is a good chance you are not yet in high school but for future reference:

Delusional - adjective
having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions
i.e. Senators who think they will get agreement on a comprehensive tax bill are delusional.

Not sure where you read stupid into this but please feel free to report the “abuse”
 
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