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How about this third line

Créé par: Oilfan1717
Date de création initiale: fév 25, 2021
Publié: 25 fév à 1 h 17
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Holloway, Dylan3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Kahun, Dominik22 000 000 $
Yamamoto, Kailer33 333 333 $
Khaira, Jujhar31 333 333 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Coleman, Blake32 500 000 $
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan66 166 666 $
Chiasson, Alex2750 000 $
Haas, Gaëtan2750 000 $
Larsson, Adam43 000 000 $
Barrie, Tyson54 000 000 $
Ennis, Tyler2750 000 $
Del Zotto, Michael2900 000 $
Hall, Taylor47 500 000 $
Transactions
EDM
    Selected by Seattle in expansion draft
    VAN
    1. Kassian, Zack
    EDM
    1. Georgiev, Alexandar
    NYR
    1. Bear, Ethan
    Rachats de contrats
    • Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $
    • James Neal: 1 916 667 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (13%)
    Enfoui
    • Kyle Turris: 525 000 $ (1 650 000 $)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    PIT
    EDM
    2022
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    2023
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $81 421 658 $341 326 $1 250 000 $78 342 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Coleman, Blake
    2 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA
    EDM
    McDavid, Connor
    12 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    EDM
    Puljujärvi, Jesse
    1 175 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Kahun, Dominik
    2 000 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    RFA
    EDM
    Draisaitl, Leon
    8 500 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 4
    EDM
    Yamamoto, Kailer
    3 333 333 $
    AD, C
    RFA
    Hall, Taylor
    7 500 000 $
    AG
    UFA
    EDM
    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    6 166 666 $
    C, AG
    UFA
    EDM
    Holloway, Dylan
    925 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    RFA - 3
    EDM
    Archibald, Josh
    1 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Khaira, Jujhar
    1 333 333 $
    C, AG
    RFA
    EDM
    Chiasson, Alex
    750 000 $
    AD
    UFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    EDM
    Klefbom, Oscar
    4 167 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Larsson, Adam
    3 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA
    EDM
    Koskinen, Mikko
    4 500 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Nurse, Darnell
    5 600 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Barrie, Tyson
    4 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA
    NYR
    Georgiev, Alexandar
    2 425 000 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    Del Zotto, Michael
    900 000 $
    DG
    UFA
    EDM
    Bouchard, Evan
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    EDM
    Haas, Gaëtan
    750 000 $
    C
    UFA
    EDM
    Russell, Kris
    1 250 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Ennis, Tyler
    750 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Draisaitl, L.
    McDavid, C.
    Chiasson, A.
    Hall, T.
    Barrie, T.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Holloway, D.
    Nugent-Hopkins, R.
    Puljujärvi, J.
    Kahun, D.
    Bouchard, E.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Khaira, J.
    Archibald, J.
    Del Zotto, M.
    Nurse, D.
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Coleman, B.
    Yamamoto, K.
    Klefbom, O.
    Larsson, A.

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    25 fév à 1 h 35
    #1
    Ragsandbluesfan
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    This works if we can find a partner for trouba
    25 fév à 1 h 47
    #2
    STL
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    This is pretty nasty assuming all these players take these discounts. Probably not, though.
    25 fév à 2 h 14
    #3
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    That Bear trade is atrocious. A first line D for a back up goalie??? Seriously
    25 fév à 2 h 29
    #4
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    I just can't see this team carrying that Neal hit for the next 4 years.
    Got to think one way or another they send Neal to Seattle.
    25 fév à 2 h 41
    #5
    Vegan Commie Hipster
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    Quoting: Copenhagen
    That Bear trade is atrocious. A first line D for a back up goalie??? Seriously


    Eh to be fair he's kinda only a 1LD because of the Edmonton d core being mediocre but definitely quite a good young player... though so is Georgiev
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    25 fév à 2 h 44
    #6
    Vegan Commie Hipster
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    Kassian regularly would be tough to unload but he has 3 pts in 13 gp and is nearing 30 seems no chance
    25 fév à 2 h 46
    #7
    Vegan Commie Hipster
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    Quoting: pharrow
    I just can't see this team carrying that Neal hit for the next 4 years.
    Got to think one way or another they send Neal to Seattle.


    1st player ever claimed by 2 expansions if so 👀

    However

    Gosh they'd be misguided to do that
    25 fév à 2 h 47
    #8
    Vegan Commie Hipster
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    I admire the panache of this post
    25 fév à 3 h 00
    #9
    Démarrer sujet
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    Quoting: jwg314
    This is pretty nasty assuming all these players take these discounts. Probably not, though.


    Where’s the discounts?
    25 fév à 3 h 02
    #10
    Démarrer sujet
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    Quoting: Radu47
    Kassian regularly would be tough to unload but he has 3 pts in 13 gp and is nearing 30 seems no chance


    Possibly. But who else would Seattle take? Jones, who’s been a healthy scratch? Fourth liners like Archibald or Khaira? Or maybe a younger forward like Benson?
    25 fév à 3 h 05
    #11
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    Quoting: Radu47
    1st player ever claimed by 2 expansions if so 👀

    However

    Gosh they'd be misguided to do that


    I'm not saying EDM doesn't send anything else, but I just don't see them carrying that cap hit for another 4 years if bought out. I don't know, EDM doesn't have a whole lot to work with as far as a sweetener but I have to think they move that cap hit. To be honest it's good for the whole league to do so. They can't have their biggest star at this point on a team buried with dead weight. For the sake of just marketing the product. He's got to go.
    25 fév à 3 h 05
    #12
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    Quoting: Radu47
    1st player ever claimed by 2 expansions if so 👀

    However

    Gosh they'd be misguided to do that


    Edmonton would likely have to incentivize Seattle to take Neal with a high draft pick. I’d rather buy out Neal and eat the money (which represents just over 2% of the Oilers cap room) than compromise the future by trading away picks.
    25 fév à 3 h 09
    #13
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    Quoting: pharrow
    I'm not saying EDM doesn't send anything else, but I just don't see them carrying that cap hit for another 4 years if bought out. I don't know, EDM doesn't have a whole lot to work with as far as a sweetener but I have to think they move that cap hit. To be honest it's good for the whole league to do so. They can't have their biggest star at this point on a team buried with dead weight. For the sake of just marketing the product. He's got to go.


    “A team buried with dead weight”. Ahh, the Oilers have scored the most goals in the entire league. And have the second most wins in the entire NHL right now. 2 forwards not named McDavid are in the top 20 in league scoring. 2 d-men are in the top five among rear guards. Some dead weight.
    25 fév à 3 h 20
    #14
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    Quoting: Oilfan1717
    “A team buried with dead weight”. Ahh, the Oilers have scored the most goals in the entire league. And have the second most wins in the entire NHL right now. 2 forwards not named McDavid are in the top 20 in league scoring. 2 d-men are in the top 10 among rear guards.


    that really isn't the point. I never said the oilers weren't a good team or that McDavid or Drai couldn't carry the team.
    That has nothing to do with the fact they got a lot of dead cap weight that could be used to make them a better team and Neal is part of that. I don't know why you would even take issue with that. It's clearly true.
    Neal and Kassian together are almost 9 million in dead cap space. That hurts. You move out Neal you get almost 6 of that back. That's a real top 6 forward to play with Drai and McDavid allowing some depth below them.
    You add that 9 million to the almost 4 million you are paying in buyout this year, and the almost 1 million you are retaining on Lucic and yeah, you are buried in dead cap weight. It's like 13-14 million.
    So if you want to argue it at least try to be honest about the facts on it. Now some of that cap hit comes off, but not all of it. They are still carrying a lot of dead weight. They need to move as much of it off as possible. Give this team better odds of long playoffs which is frankly good for the game that their biggest names do well in the playoffs.
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    25 fév à 4 h 28
    #15
    Vegan Commie Hipster
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    Quoting: Oilfan1717
    Where’s the discounts?


    Hall for sure and likely Yams and maybe RNH by a bit so not too much all told my $ issue is more with Kassian but all told an interesting rather viable post

    May just need to shift a few things ultimately

    Better than Holland will do for sure
    25 fév à 5 h 19
    #16
    WeHateCoreyPerry
    Rejoint: mai 2019
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    Blake Coleman is gonna ask for more, Taylor Hall is honestly having another rough season and if that keeps up we'll prob get him at a low term 6 mil. Nuge is gonna get at least 6.5. Other then that I like the signings!
    25 fév à 8 h 38
    #17
    FKA Bigtittielarper
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    Nuge wants Draisitl money, Coleman would want more to leave Tampa and I’d personally stay away from Hall that money can be used better elsewhere, resigning larsson and Barrie is interesting has there been a change of heart in the Edmonton fan base?
     
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