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Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 25 févr. 2021
Publié: 25 févr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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25 févr. 2021 à 0 h 46
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Buffalo adds
25 févr. 2021 à 1 h 0
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Absolutely ZERO interest in Johansen- NONE
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25 févr. 2021 à 1 h 45
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Absolutely ZERO interest in Johansen- NONE


Can I ask why? I know he's not great, but Skinner is a 13th forward on your team making 9M for the next 7 years at this point.
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25 févr. 2021 à 1 h 56
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Can I ask why? I know he's not great, but Skinner is a 13th forward on your team making 9M for the next 7 years at this point.


He’s not the quality of a 13th forward though
Skinner isn’t even playing badly
Our coach just hates him apparently

When this coach gets fired (only a matter of time), the next one will play Skinner back with Eichel where he should be,
and we’ll see at least 30goals again
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25 févr. 2021 à 2 h 15
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He’s not the quality of a 13th forward though
Skinner isn’t even playing badly
Our coach just hates him apparently

When this coach gets fired (only a matter of time), the next one will play Skinner back with Eichel where he should be,
and we’ll see at least 30goals again


That's fair, and I agree for the most part. How much longer does Krueger have?
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25 févr. 2021 à 4 h 0
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That's fair, and I agree for the most part. How much longer does Krueger have?


Tough to say
He’s obviously not a good coach when it comes to the Xs & Os, but the players mostly like him a lot- & it seems like our owner likes him quite a bit too
But if we keep losing, & guys like Skinner keep underperforming (he’s NOT alone- see: Eichel & Hall as well), then it’s only a matter of time before a change will have to be made

I wouldn’t be surprised if Ralph gets moved into more of a “management” role at some point (after this season?),
and we bring in a (hopefully legit) new coach

But who really knows???
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25 févr. 2021 à 5 h 47
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
He’s not the quality of a 13th forward though
Skinner isn’t even playing badly
Our coach just hates him apparently

When this coach gets fired (only a matter of time), the next one will play Skinner back with Eichel where he should be, and we’ll see at least 30 goals again


Hope springs eternal.

I'm still waiting for Anaheim to win six in a row.
25 févr. 2021 à 7 h 8
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
He’s not the quality of a 13th forward though
Skinner isn’t even playing badly
Our coach just hates him apparently

When this coach gets fired (only a matter of time), the next one will play Skinner back with Eichel where he should be,
and we’ll see at least 30goals again


People just love to $hit on Skinner because hes a sabre, they dont realize that his fancy stats have been great but hes getting 12 minutes a game
25 févr. 2021 à 7 h 11
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That's fair, and I agree for the most part. How much longer does Krueger have?


I think Skinner is gone before Krueger
25 févr. 2021 à 8 h 9
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That's fair, and I agree for the most part. How much longer does Krueger have?


We're hoping it's measured in seconds lol
25 févr. 2021 à 8 h 25
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Buffalo adds at least a first.
25 févr. 2021 à 8 h 25
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People just love to $hit on Skinner because hes a sabre, they dont realize that his fancy stats have been great but hes getting 12 minutes a game

You just can’t believe what you’re saying.
25 févr. 2021 à 8 h 35
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You just can’t believe what you’re saying.


SkInNeR sUcKs BeCaUsE hE hAs 1 PoInT wHiLe PlAyInG 12 MiNuTeS wItH 4tH lInErS
25 févr. 2021 à 8 h 48
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SkInNeR sUcKs BeCaUsE hE hAs 1 PoInT wHiLe PlAyInG 12 MiNuTeS wItH 4tH lInErS


Okay, just to let you know whenever anyone takes the time to type something out like that, it screams to everyone else, “I want to say something clever here, but I can’t think of anything clever, and I don’t really have anything to support what I’m saying.” You can be better.

Now, just so you know, NHL coaches look at everything. They don’t just say, “oh, he has one point, he’s bad, cut the minutes.” Guys go through streaks of low statistical production all the time, but they keep playing because they aren’t bad. Not here. Skinner started getting 14-16 minutes. Then they went down, down, down, because he’s horrible. And yes, it matters that a 9 million dollar player only has one point. That is an issue.

His poor play isn’t a result of his minutes, his minutes is a result of his poor play. He’s the worst contract in the NHL. I know it, you know it, just admit it to yourself.
25 févr. 2021 à 8 h 54
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Okay, just to let you know whenever anyone takes the time to type something out like that, it screams to everyone else, “I want to say something clever here, but I can’t think of anything clever, and I don’t really have anything to support what I’m saying.” You can be better.

Now, just so you know, NHL coaches look at everything. They don’t just say, “oh, he has one point, he’s bad, cut the minutes.” Guys go through streaks of low statistical production all the time, but they keep playing because they aren’t bad. Not here. Skinner started getting 14-16 minutes. Then they went down, down, down, because he’s horrible. And yes, it matters that a 9 million dollar player only has one point. That is an issue.

His poor play isn’t a result of his minutes, his minutes is a result of his poor play. He’s the worst contract in the NHL. I know it, you know it, just admit it to yourself.


Its not that hard to type out. His advanced stats still prove your assessment wrong, he has played exceptional despite his circumstance, but has had terrible team mates and no TOI. Theirs a clear cut and dry correlation between Coach, linemates, TOI, and his production, youre lying to yourself if you dont see it. Skinner isnt a playmaker and nobody ever said he was so when his center is Marcus Johansson and Riley Sheahan, his wingers are Sobotka, Rodrigues, Vesey, Rieder, Simmonds - all of these washed up 4th liners - his points are going to disappear
25 févr. 2021 à 8 h 59
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Its not that hard to type out. His advanced stats still prove your assessment wrong, he has played exceptional despite his circumstance, but has had terrible team mates and no TOI. Theirs a clear cut and dry correlation between Coach, linemates, TOI, and his production, youre lying to yourself if you dont see it. Skinner isnt a playmaker and nobody ever said he was so when his center is Marcus Johansson and Riley Sheahan, his wingers are Sobotka, Rodrigues, Vesey, Rieder, Simmonds - all of these washed up 4th liners - his points are going to disappear


Oh I’m not saying it’s hard to type out. I’m saying you look like a brain dead dolt that can’t come up with anything better.

No, advanced stats don’t prove anything.

Why do you think he’s playing with these linemates? Is there a conspiracy going on?
25 févr. 2021 à 9 h 1
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Oh I’m not saying it’s hard to type out. I’m saying you look like a brain dead dolt that can’t come up with anything better.

No, advanced stats don’t prove anything.

Why do you think he’s playing with these linemates? Is there a conspiracy going on?


Thats what you sound like when you repeat the same NPC talking points over and over again. Theirs no conspiracy, Krueger has said multiple times he wants Skinner to buy in to his system. Its clear this system doesnt work for him, so he gets buried
25 févr. 2021 à 9 h 9
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Thats what you sound like when you repeat the same NPC talking points over and over again. Theirs no conspiracy, Krueger has said multiple times he wants Skinner to buy in to his system. Its clear this system doesnt work for him, so he gets buried


So he’s not playing well and therefore getting less minutes. Got it. Worst contract in the NHL.
25 févr. 2021 à 22 h 57
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People just love to $hit on Skinner because hes a sabre, they dont realize that his fancy stats have been great but hes getting 12 minutes a game


Yeah, true
But while i do appreciate his good “fancy” stats,
we really do need him to start scoring if he ever gets back in the lineup
Hopefully he will play with Mittelstadt at least- so he’ll have some other offensive talent out there with him
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27 févr. 2021 à 9 h 56
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
Tough to say
... But who really knows???


I know the Canadian fans really hate Claude Julien, but he has a cup and got the Canadians into the round robin AFTER Bergevin sold assets at the TDL.
Olofsson is purely a PP specialist with 12 of his 15 points generated on the PP. Same EV pts as Sheahan and Rieder, so put him on line with them.
Move Skinner back to the top line.
Skinner Eichel Reinhart
Hall Staal Cozens
Olofsson Sheahan Okposo
Rieder Eakin Lazar
Lefties play LW, righties play RW.
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27 févr. 2021 à 13 h 57
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I know the Canadian fans really hate Claude Julien, but he has a cup and got the Canadians into the round robin AFTER Bergevin sold assets at the TDL.
Olofsson is purely a PP specialist with 12 of his 15 points generated on the PP. Same EV pts as Sheahan and Rieder, so put him on line with them.
Move Skinner back to the top line.
Skinner Eichel Reinhart
Hall Staal Cozens
Olofsson Sheahan Okposo
Rieder Eakin Lazar
Lefties play LW, righties play RW.


I agree about Skinner....
The big problem is that Ralph doesn’t
Ugh
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