Overpay

😂 don’t see that often, k what’s the price?

that's nice and awful for the leafs. Two terrible 4th liners that are worse than everything the leafs have used on the 4th line this year for good assets

Not sure. But I really like Hirvonen as a prospect. Maybe a 2nd round pick and a lower graded prospect?

That are years away. Glendening and Namestnikov are not terrible 4th line players. Vlad can play in the top 9 and Luke is a very good C man. Overpay probably but just gaging their value with some retention

but neither of these players from detroit are worth anything close to that

You could do alot worse than Namestnikov but as much as I like glenny hes not a 3rd line player. Hes a depth guy at best.

no, they are terrible 4th liners. they are flat out awful players who cant defend or score enough to compensate for being awful in their own end and would make the leafs bottom 6 worse. Seriously, they literally bleed shots and chances against at below replacement levels.

Yeah overpay imo. Boyd is better then Glendening and Namestnikov doesn't bring anything that Mikheyev already has

Do yourself a favour and watch other teams than just Toronto. Namestnikov would rank 5th in ixG on the Leafs, just behind JT;
4th in isF just behind Marner. And Glendening is a faceoff machine and would be a great 3C

Well Namestnikov can finish so I think he could bring that. Also just tired of all the NSH trades. Was looking for something different

so yourself a favour and watch them yourself. using 2 cherry picked stats from a shortened season is an awful way to evaluate a player who has been bad defensively his entire career and only generates offence when he is given ice time, linemates and powerplay time way above his station.
And glendening can literally do nothing except faceoffs, he is legitimatly one of the worst players in the NHL. He's a terrible 4th line C on the redwings and he'd been an even worse one on the leafs.

I do watch watch other games other than the Leafs. Talking hockey with you is like banging my head against a wall. Stupid casual fans 🤦‍♂️

ah yes, you've watched them and you think they are good so obviously other people couldnt have watched them. If I had asked you if you had watched them first do i get dibs on that BS and does it make me watching them more important and correct?
Such a lazy, nonsensical argument that only people who have nothing else to go on use.

Im not even going to point out how friggen hilarious it is that someone who thinks Glendening would be a good 3c because he "watched the games" is calling people casual fans. That's like someone watching Fraser MacLaren saying he'd be a good 3LW because he skates good in a straight line

Glendening is leading the league in face off winning %.

and that's the prime example of just how unimportant faceoffs are. If he is that good at faceoffs, and STILL that bad at everything else that all his numbers have stink lines coming off em, how big of a liability is he when he loses a draw?

Do you know how stupid you sound anybody who knows anything about hockey will disagree.

do you know how stupid you sound to anyone who has actually looked into faceoffs? Anyone who knows anything about hockey would agree. If you cannot hold possession of the puck after a faceoff win, then the win is pointless. Glendening is so bad that he could win 99.99% of his faceoffs and still be a terrible hockey player because faceoffs are less than 1% of the game.
If they were important he'd actually have good shot and chance suppression numbers, but he doesnt. All his numbers are a train wreck.
Being good at faceoffs is like having a hard shot, but if you cant hit the net when you shoot it having a hard shot is pretty pointless. Do you want to be able to shoot the puck really hard? sure, but not near as much as you want to be able to control the shot.

Do you have any thing to back that up?

i mean, you can just look up his possession numbers and it's right there. But here's a piece on it
https://canucksarmy.com/2019/01/09/do-faceoffs-really-make-a-difference/

You did this and is it recognized by the NHL or and other league? Just because you found it on the internet doesn't mean its true.

what? what does that even mean recognised by the NHL? Do they put out a dictionary of recognised hockey takes ever year?

That is true but the NHL will put its stamp on research that they feel is important. Changing the belief that face-offs are really not important as once thought would be pretty big.

Off topic real quick You aren't the person who tried to convince me that elite positioning was a real thing?

I have never seen any form of the NHL putting a stamp on research like this, they dont have any sort of method to do that unless you mean Jim hughson prattling on about stuff that he thinks is important during game play.
And no, i have never even heard of elite positioning, whatever the hell that is

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