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McDavid is The League MVP so far this season

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Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 23 févr. 2021
Publié: 24 févr. 2021
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Auston Matthews is a really good player, but the East media pumping his tires that he is the league MVP is completely ludicrous. McDavid does things in games that no one, and I mean no one can duplicate. Comparing Matthews to McDavid is like comparing a Ford Mustang to a lamborghini aventador.
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24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 22
#51
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Quoting: Zmach
Based on standings in a traditional season they were in the playoffs.


Montreal was the 12th seed in the East in points percentage. I must have missed the traditional seasons where the 12th seed got it.

Winnipeg 9th so same.
24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 22
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It seems like just a week ago they were saying marner is a better player than Mcdavid. But then mcdavid pulled away in points so now defence is a thing.


Anyone who puts marner up with Mcdavid is an idiot.
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24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 24
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Quoting: Book_Hockey
Agreed. The main sticking point in the debate, for me anyway, is that Matthews has played with another MVP caliber talent in Marner 86% of the time 5v5 while McDavid has been with Drai 12% of the time.


Draisaitl would have just as many goals and as many points as mcdavid if the two played together then draisaitl would be the MVP.
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24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 24
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Matthews doesn't PK and has less effect on both GF and GA than Marner. Matthews takes faceoffs and scores the goals that Marner sets him up for. Marner plays 1:00 more per game... how is that doing less?


At 5v5 wingers do less. You know what I don't care. You are about as ridiculous as anyone can get on here. I don't want to waste anymore time.
24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 30
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Montreal was the 12th seed in the East in points percentage. I must have missed the traditional seasons where the 12th seed got it.

Winnipeg 9th so same.


Winnipeg is not a slouch of a team they are maybe a D man from being a perennial favorite.

Montreal is a good team but they have to win all their games by grinding they don't have offensive drivers just physical play. Tatar was big for them in offense but he's fallen off.
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24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 34
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Take out the young talent and you get the same. Not arguing Kane shouldn’t be considered, to be honest he should always be considered. He’s that good.


Kane's value to the Hawks is much higher than Matthews's value to the Leafs. Kane has 30 points in 20 games, 2nd highest on the hawks has 17 points. If anything I think Marner should be in the Hart conversation. He has more points than Matthews and is a +16 compared to Matthews +8 (this stat is very telling because they are on the same line). Matthews is on a heater and scoring goals at an unsustainable shooting %. He has 11 assists. Muzzin, Marner, Tavares and Rielly have equal or more assists. When I watch a Leafs game I don't see him driving play and carrying his team. On the PP he is stationary and doesn't make the passes that get the other team moving. Marner is the key in Toronto imo
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24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 41
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Quoting: Jamiepo
You are literally wrong on all accounts here. You can argue a lot of things but if you think Matthews isn’t a 200 foot player or he needs anyone to carry him you haven’t watched a game.


Of course he’s not 200 ft. At best he is like 6-3”
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24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 43
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You are literally wrong on all accounts here. You can argue a lot of things but if you think Matthews isn’t a 200 foot player or he needs anyone to carry him you haven’t watched a game.


Matthews is a good 2 way player
But McDavid is the clear MVP
24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 46
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Kane's value to the Hawks is much higher than Matthews's value to the Leafs. Kane has 30 points in 20 games, 2nd highest on the hawks has 17 points. If anything I think Marner should be in the Hart conversation. He has more points than Matthews and is a +16 compared to Matthews +8 (this stat is very telling because they are on the same line). Matthews is on a heater and scoring goals at an unsustainable shooting %. He has 11 assists. Muzzin, Marner, Tavares and Rielly have equal or more assists. When I watch a Leafs game I don't see him driving play and carrying his team. On the PP he is stationary and doesn't make the passes that get the other team moving. Marner is the key in Toronto imo


You should seriously try watching hockey with your eyes open.

This is top to bottom bad. The shooting percentage is a bit high. But that puts him on pace for over 50 goals. Can he sustain it? Who knows. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him around the 20% mark.

Matthews does it all and he drives the entire team. Trying to look at points and assists to disparage what he does is just plain stupid.
24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 50
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Quoting: Jamiepo
You should seriously try watching hockey with your eyes open.

This is top to bottom bad. The shooting percentage is a bit high. But that puts him on pace for over 50 goals. Can he sustain it? Who knows. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him around the 20% mark.

Matthews does it all and he drives the entire team. Trying to look at points and assists to disparage what he does is just plain stupid.


Ah yes, I've seen this before. A classic case of Leafsfanemia. Generally goes away after a first-round exit or 1 bad game from Freddy or Nylander
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24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 50
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The Leafs arent even the best in the division
What are you talking about?


the leafs are the clear cut best in the division
24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 52
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Draisaitl would have just as many goals and as many points as mcdavid if the two played together then draisaitl would be the MVP.


No actually
They would both have double what they have now
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24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 53
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Ah yes, I've seen this before. A classic case of Leafsfanemia. Generally goes away after a first-round exit or 1 bad game from Freddy or Nylander


That is 100% not me. Just a hockey fan with a grip on reality. Reality is Matthews is very very good. Not just at scoring goals either. Literally good everywhere on the ice with it without the puck.
24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 57
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That is 100% not me. Just a hockey fan with a grip on reality. Reality is Matthews is very very good. Not just at scoring goals either. Literally good everywhere on the ice with it without the puck.


Yea no doubt but I'd put at least Marner, McDavid and Kane ahead of him in the Hart race. Overall he's a top 5 player on most peoples list
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24 févr. 2021 à 13 h 59
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Yea no doubt but I'd put at least Marner, McDavid and Kane ahead of him in the Hart race. Overall he's a top 5 player on most peoples list


That’s pretty silly. Mcdavid and Matthews are neck and neck. Kane is up there and marner is down the list a bit. Maybe top 5.

I expect these kind of takes on twitter not cap friendly.
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24 févr. 2021 à 14 h 8
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That’s pretty silly. Mcdavid and Matthews are neck and neck. Kane is up there and marner is down the list a bit. Maybe top 5.


So Matthews is tied for being the best player in the world and Marner is top 5? I put McDavid, MacKinnon, Pastarnak ahead of him 100%. Kucherov, Panarin, Draisaitl, Marner, Eichel and Kane are on his tier imo. Matthews will cool off in the next few weeks and people will stop comparing him to McD.
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So Matthews is tied for being the best player in the world and Marner is top 5? I put McDavid, MacKinnon, Pastarnak ahead of him 100%. Kucherov, Panarin, Draisaitl, Marner, Eichel and Kane are on his tier imo. Matthews will cool off in the next few weeks and people will stop comparing him to McD.


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24 févr. 2021 à 14 h 10
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You are literally wrong on all accounts here. You can argue a lot of things but if you think Matthews isn’t a 200 foot player or he needs anyone to carry him you haven’t watched a game.

Where did I say anything negative about Matthews 200-ft game? Please respond to what I wrote, not what some other posters wrote.
24 févr. 2021 à 14 h 11
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insecure


good one bro u got me good!
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good one bro u got me good!


no need to be sensitive about it, dont be a mental midget
24 févr. 2021 à 14 h 12
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At 5v5 wingers do less. You know what I don't care. You are about as ridiculous as anyone can get on here. I don't want to waste anymore time.

Yeah, that always happens when I take your arguments apart. Have a nice day, sir.
24 févr. 2021 à 14 h 12
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Where did I say anything negative about Matthews 200-ft game? Please respond to what I wrote, not what some other posters wrote.


Leafs fans are a different breed
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24 févr. 2021 à 14 h 13
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Leafs fans are a different breed


LOL
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Leafs fans are a different breed

Truth.
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24 févr. 2021 à 14 h 14
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Quoting: vr1995
no need to be sensitive about it, dont be a mental midget


I'm confused what ur issue is with me lol. Why turn to insults instantly, we're just debating about some hockey players
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