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Équipe: 2020-21 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 21 févr. 2021
Publié: 21 févr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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NSH
  1. Harkins, Jansen
  2. Smith, Nathan [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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AG
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
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2 280 000 $2 280 000 $
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C, AG
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900 000 $900 000 $
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2 916 667 $2 916 667 $
C
UFA - 1
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
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UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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DG
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DD
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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725 000 $725 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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725 000 $725 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DD
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700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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21 févr. 2021 à 17 h 41
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That doesnt get you Forsberg
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21 févr. 2021 à 17 h 44
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That doesnt get you Forsberg


Probably takes another pick like a second but it’s a good base. What do you think?
21 févr. 2021 à 17 h 49
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Probably takes another pick like a second but it’s a good base. What do you think?


No it takes a prospect like Heinola or Perfetti instead of Harkins
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21 févr. 2021 à 17 h 59
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No it takes a prospect like Heinola or Perfetti instead of Harkins


I do agree it takes more than just a 2nd. But they’re not getting Heinola or Perfetti for a guy who likely ends up being a 1.5 year rental.

Most id do as the Jets is Samberg + Harkins + 1st.
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21 févr. 2021 à 18 h 2
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I do agree it takes more than just a 2nd. But they’re not getting Heinola or Perfetti for a guy who likely ends up being a 1.5 year rental.

Most id do as the Jets is Samberg + Harkins + 1st.


1.5 years is not a rental. That's a short term investment and also when a contract is at peak trade value
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21 févr. 2021 à 18 h 5
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1.5 years is not a rental. That's a short term investment and also when a contract is at peak trade value


1.5 years isn’t long term either. It’s not going to get you heinola or perfetti lol
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21 févr. 2021 à 18 h 11
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1.5 years isn’t long term either. It’s not going to get you heinola or perfetti lol


1 year of Pacioretty got Suzuki, Tatar and a 2nd. Forsberg, who is a better player than Patches, can definitely get Heinola or Perfetti
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21 févr. 2021 à 18 h 12
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No it takes a prospect like Heinola or Perfetti instead of Harkins


Lol no, Forsberg is an awesome player and I agree it’ll take more but nobody is paying that price
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21 févr. 2021 à 18 h 16
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
1 year of Pacioretty got Suzuki, Tatar and a 2nd. Forsberg, who is a better player than Patches, can definitely get Heinola or Perfetti


And it’s extremely easy to see who won that trade

Tatar was coming off 6 points in 20 games, not worth his cap hit at all and Suzuki’s ceiling was nowhere close to what it is now

And there was an extension with Vegas in place already
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21 févr. 2021 à 18 h 28
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And it’s extremely easy to see who won that trade

Tatar was coming off 6 points in 20 games, not worth his cap hit at all and Suzuki’s ceiling was nowhere close to what it is now

And there was an extension with Vegas in place already


Who won the trade exactly? Patches is an excellent fit for Vegas' top line and a ppg player? Tatar came in to Montreal and was great until this year while Suzuki was a high caliber prospect (but has since exceeded expectations)
21 févr. 2021 à 18 h 33
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Quoting: HockeyFan989
And it’s extremely easy to see who won that trade

Tatar was coming off 6 points in 20 games, not worth his cap hit at all and Suzuki’s ceiling was nowhere close to what it is now

And there was an extension with Vegas in place already


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Who won the trade exactly? Patches is an excellent fit for Vegas' top line and a ppg player? Tatar came in to Montreal and was great until this year while Suzuki was a high caliber prospect (but has since exceeded expectations)


I mean it’s a fair deal to this day, however, Suzuki was no where near the player he is now (in fact he was a bubble guy who made team Canada at the wjc) and Tatar was sent as a reclamation project. Hence, you aren’t getting top prospects like heinola or perfetti. Maybe Samberg but doubt the jets are willing to move him. Vesalainen could replace harkins but I honestly don’t want him if he costs much more. Doubt he’ll sign in Winnipeg anyway.
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21 févr. 2021 à 18 h 40
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Who won the trade exactly? Patches is an excellent fit for Vegas' top line and a ppg player? Tatar came in to Montreal and was great until this year while Suzuki was a high caliber prospect (but has since exceeded expectations)


Easily MTL

Tatar turned around his career, from being close to a cap dump to posting comparable numbers to Patches the past few seasons on lower cap hit and a weaker team (younger as well) definitely not the player Vegas traded

Suzuki’s ceiling was lower then Glass’s at the time of the trade... at top 6 center maybe

And the only reason Vegas was willing to give that much was because there was already a extension in place with Patches
21 févr. 2021 à 18 h 47
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Easily MTL

Tatar turned around his career, from being close to a cap dump to posting comparable numbers to Patches the past few seasons on lower cap hit and a weaker team (younger as well) definitely not the player Vegas traded

Suzuki’s ceiling was lower then Glass’s at the time of the trade... at top 6 center maybe

And the only reason Vegas was willing to give that much was because there was already a extension in place with Patches


How is it easily Montreal? Patches had 32 goals and 66 points last year, this year he is just under a PPG. The trade was really close to fair
21 févr. 2021 à 18 h 53
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
How is it easily Montreal? Patches had 32 goals and 66 points last year, this year he is just under a PPG. The trade was really close to fair


Suzuki's 21......, with the higher ceiling.. Patches is 32....

Patches will think bout retirement in a few years while Suzuki would just be entering his prime

and thats not even counting the impact Tatar has in MTL
21 févr. 2021 à 19 h 1
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Suzuki's 21......, with the higher ceiling.. Patches is 32....

Patches will think bout retirement in a few years while Suzuki would just be entering his prime

and thats not even counting the impact Tatar has in MTL


Well Vegas are cup favorites with Patches, they weren't with Suzuki and Tatar
21 févr. 2021 à 19 h 9
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Well Vegas are cup favorites with Patches, they weren't with Suzuki and Tatar


Tatar didnt do anything for them

But bet they'll love to have Suzuki rn over Patches
21 févr. 2021 à 19 h 30
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Even if we have to add a prospect or a pick to the Savard/DeMelo, I do it! But that would mean Chevy has to admit to his mistake by signing DeMelo to that contract in the first place.
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21 févr. 2021 à 19 h 32
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Tatar didnt do anything for them

But bet they'll love to have Suzuki rn over Patches


Yeah because he greatly exceeded expectations, Vegas 100% does that trade every time even if given a redo
21 févr. 2021 à 20 h 2
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Yeah because he greatly exceeded expectations, Vegas 100% does that trade every time even if given a redo


If I’m them I wouldn’t... the trade back then made sense but seeing it unfold now it hurts for them

And 21 year old top 6 center who has the potential to become an elite #1.. or a 32 year old top line winger.... which sounds better popcorn

But nope it Vegas knew Suzuki would turn out like this they NEVER would’ve done the trade... not a chance, rather given Glass
21 févr. 2021 à 20 h 5
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If I’m them I wouldn’t... the trade back then made sense but seeing it unfold now it hurts for them

And 21 year old top 6 center who has the potential to become an elite #1.. or a 32 year old top line winger.... which sounds better popcorn

But nope it Vegas knew Suzuki would turn out like this they NEVER would’ve done the trade... not a chance, rather given Glass


Hindsight's 2020 Im saying if we went back in time and they got a chance to think about it more they still 100% make that trade
21 févr. 2021 à 20 h 27
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Hindsight's 2020 Im saying if we went back in time and they got a chance to think about it more they still 100% make that trade


Depends, if they knew back then what they know now.. then no chance, but ya hindsight 20/20

young centers r extremely valuable... i mean look at what we gave for PLD
 
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