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If flames are out of the playoffs by trade deadline

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Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 18 févr. 2021
Publié: 18 févr. 2021
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  1. Gaudreau, Johnny
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Calgary retains half of his contract just for this year.

I think this is what all Calgary would get because this is his second last season and I don’t think your gonna get more than that if they wait on his last season. And also I believe I heard he wasn’t going to return after his contract is up because he wants to play for Philadelphia or New Jersey if I’m not mistaken?
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  1. Mete, Victor
  2. Norlinder, Mattias
  3. Tatar, Tomas
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
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Tatar signs a team friendly extension likely a short term (2 years) with Calgary and also likely with victor mete as well
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18 févr. 2021 à 17 h 1
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They might not Tatar if he doesn't have an extension in place
18 févr. 2021 à 17 h 3
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If Gaudreau hits the Market that wont be enough to win his sweepstakes
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18 févr. 2021 à 17 h 13
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Not even close to getting gaudreau, nothing there interests Calgary, they have mangipane and tkachuk who are better than Tatar, mete would be third pairing, I have no idea who nolinder is and the first would probably be mid to late. Gaudreau is the flames best offensive player it would cost ALOT. And you are mistaken there is no indication gaudreau is going to New Jersey or philly.
18 févr. 2021 à 17 h 16
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Not even close to getting gaudreau, nothing there interests Calgary, they have mangipane and tkachuk who are better than Tatar, mete would be third pairing, I have no idea who nolinder is and the first would probably be mid to late. Gaudreau is the flames best offensive player it would cost ALOT. And you are mistaken there is no indication gaudreau is going to New Jersey or philly.


Norlinder is the best piece in the package, you should look into him before making a judgment call like this. However you arw right this offer will bot labd Gaudreau
18 févr. 2021 à 17 h 20
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Norlinder is the best piece in the package, you should look into him before making a judgment call like this. However you arw right this offer will bot labd Gaudreau

At just looking at his stats I can already tell he isn’t a fit for the flames he’s a left d and not better than hanifin or valimaki so he would be third pairing he might be a good prospect but he doesn’t interest Calgary very much.
18 févr. 2021 à 17 h 29
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Not even close to getting gaudreau, nothing there interests Calgary, they have mangipane and tkachuk who are better than Tatar, mete would be third pairing, I have no idea who nolinder is and the first would probably be mid to late. Gaudreau is the flames best offensive player it would cost ALOT. And you are mistaken there is no indication gaudreau is going to New Jersey or philly.


Really Mangiapane better then Tatar. maybe you try to push that one a little to far. There's not many players in this league that had 6 consecutive 20 goal season.
18 févr. 2021 à 17 h 31
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Really Mangiapane better then Tatar. maybe you try to push that one a little to far. There's not many players in this league that had 6 consecutive 20 goal season.


Mangipane is one of the best two way players in the league right now he’s a selke favourite so yes mangipane is way better than Tatar and way younger
18 févr. 2021 à 17 h 39
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Mangipane is one of the best two way players in the league right now he’s a selke favourite so yes mangipane is way better than Tatar and way younger


Jesus lord i just piss myself!! i can't believe that you actually convice yourself of it. You can be the best defensive forward in the league if you score 35 point no one care. every ****ing team have players like mangiapane. Scoring goal is not something everyone can do in this league and clearly is value a lot more than a guys who won't even be in the top ten of the selke this year.
18 févr. 2021 à 17 h 42
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Jesus lord i just piss myself!! i can't believe that you actually convice yourself of it. You can be the best defensive forward in the league if you score 35 point no one care. every ****ing team have players like mangiapane. Scoring goal is not something everyone can do in this league and clearly is value a lot more than a guys who won't even be in the top ten of the selke this year.


https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/platform/amp/2021/2/9/22273856/andrew-mangiapane-is-pretty-darn-good

Read this, mangipane is an amazing player who is extremely underrated
18 févr. 2021 à 17 h 44
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All y'all are talking about the trade but like we really don't think Calgary can beat out one of Edmonton and Winnipeg for that last spot?
18 févr. 2021 à 17 h 57
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Quoting: flamesfan
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/platform/amp/2021/2/9/22273856/andrew-mangiapane-is-pretty-darn-good

Read this, mangipane is an amazing player who is extremely underrated


I know all about Mangiapane, he is a good all around players. Just like Paul Byron was a couple a year ago. Great speed, can play anywhere in the line up. Extremely responsible defensively but they are utility players. You need to watch other game then Calgary body. I can easily find 15 players that could be swap for mangiapane and would do about the exact same. Tatar is a proven 25 goal scorer. Some year their team that do even have a 25 goal scorer. I like Mangiapane and i really think that you need a couple of them to be a good hockey team but in a utility role. Why do you think the flame have such a hard time scoring goal?
18 févr. 2021 à 18 h 1
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You can’t “retain just for this year.” Any retention applies to the remainder of the contract.
18 févr. 2021 à 18 h 2
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I know all about Mangiapane, he is a good all around players. Just like Paul Byron was a couple a year ago. Great speed, can play anywhere in the line up. Extremely responsible defensively but they are utility players. You need to watch other game then Calgary body. I can easily find 15 players that could be swap for mangiapane and would do about the exact same. Tatar is a proven 25 goal scorer. Some year their team that do even have a 25 goal scorer. I like Mangiapane and i really think that you need a couple of them to be a good hockey team but in a utility role. Why do you think the flame have such a hard time scoring goal?


They arent scoring well cause their coach not their players Tatar wouldn’t help Calgary and mangiapane is a rare player he has been the flames best player this year he is miles better than Byron, most teams don’t have a player like mangipane, he’s a selke favourite. Also last year mangipane had 17 goals in 68 games so he was on pace for 20. Tell me the 15 players that are like mangipane
18 févr. 2021 à 18 h 26
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They arent scoring well cause their coach not their players Tatar wouldn’t help Calgary and mangiapane is a rare player he has been the flames best player this year he is miles better than Byron, most teams don’t have a player like mangipane, he’s a selke favourite. Also last year mangipane had 17 goals in 68 games so he was on pace for 20. Tell me the 15 players that are like mangipane


he is better then Byron today yeah probably but he is exactly Paul Byron 3-4 years ago. Radek Faksa, Adrian Kempe, Arturi Lehkonen, Chris Thierney, Lars Eller, Nick Bonino(maybe not anymore), Zach Hyman, Andrew Copp, Blake Coleman... all these players would have a similar impact and there many more that could replace him. Have you listen to yourself? How a 6 consecutive 20 goal scorer wouldn't be needed in any team? I mean come on man you can do better then that. I like to say that i don't think that Calgary would be looking for this kind of return for Gaudreau, but that doesn't explain that Mangiapane delirium. Tatar is a better players overall and there not even a debat to have here. But that doesnt make Mangiapane a bad one, he is just a more average guy.
18 févr. 2021 à 18 h 32
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he is better then Byron today yeah probably but he is exactly Paul Byron 3-4 years ago. Radek Faksa, Adrian Kempe, Arturi Lehkonen, Chris Thierney, Lars Eller, Nick Bonino(maybe not anymore), Zach Hyman, Andrew Copp, Blake Coleman... all these players would have a similar impact and there many more that could replace him. Have you listen to yourself? How a 6 consecutive 20 goal scorer wouldn't be needed in any team? I mean come on man you can do better then that. I like to say that i don't think that Calgary would be looking for this kind of return for Gaudreau, but that doesn't explain that Mangiapane delirium. Tatar is a better players overall and there not even a debat to have here. But that doesnt make Mangiapane a bad one, he is just a more average guy.


None of those players are even close to mangiapane and neither was Byron ever, have any of those players ever been a selke favourite? And Tatar would help Calgary but he wouldn’t help much because their problem is with coaching. Tatar is a very good player and a really good scorer, but mangiapane is the flames best player so far this season and he is a top player in the nhl right now
18 févr. 2021 à 18 h 39
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None of those players are even close to mangiapane and neither was Byron ever, have any of those players ever been a selke favourite? And Tatar would help Calgary but he wouldn’t help much because their problem is with coaching. Tatar is a very good player and a really good scorer, but mangiapane is the flames best player so far this season and he is a top player in the nhl right now


Where in your imagination Mangiapane became the favorite for the selke?? A mean even if he had a oustanding season, Patrice Bergeron and Mark Stone are far ahead. A guy like Cirelli, Couturier, O'reilly, Point. A mean i done talking with you, you live in some king of parallele universe where marginal players are suddenly the best players in the league. I'm done!
18 févr. 2021 à 18 h 44
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Where in your imagination Mangiapane became the favorite for the selke?? A mean even if he had a oustanding season, Patrice Bergeron and Mark Stone are far ahead. A guy like Cirelli, Couturier, O'reilly, Point. A mean i done talking with you, you live in some king of parallele universe where marginal players are suddenly the best players in the league. I'm done!


Did you read this https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/platform/amp/2021/2/9/22273856/andrew-mangiapane-is-pretty-darn-good

Please do, also thanks for the discussion 👍 your a good guy
19 févr. 2021 à 12 h 30
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Did you read this https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.matchsticksandgasoline.com/platform/amp/2021/2/9/22273856/andrew-mangiapane-is-pretty-darn-good

Please do, also thanks for the discussion 👍 your a good guy


thank bud! Maybe we will get into another discussion later haha. enjoy the weekend
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