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Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh
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    18 févr. 2021 à 11 h 42
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    Quoting: Jeuck75
    That's not the point, they don't need Crosby


    he didnt get it yesterday either. He is not understanding how elite play on the ELC in Byram is worth more to the avs who have a tight cap situation the next few years with their cup window than Crosby who we have to admit is entering the twlight portion of his career.
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    Give ya Ryan Miller straight up for him? You guys need goaltending depth more than you need Byram tears of joy


    rather just claim Comrie then tren for a 3rd goalie. NO clue what is wrong with Francouz yet. No one knows if hes dead dead or what
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    18 févr. 2021 à 11 h 44
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    Quoting: Jeuck75
    That's not the point, they don't need Crosby


    Apparently they do if they want him
    18 févr. 2021 à 11 h 45
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    Crosby for Nylander? Toronto will add Kerfoot and 2 1sts if you want.
    18 févr. 2021 à 11 h 45
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    Quoting: coga16
    rather just claim Comrie then tren for a 3rd goalie. NO clue what is wrong with Francouz yet. No one knows if hes dead dead or what


    RYAN MILLER IS THE COOLEST THOUGH!

    Yeah, I'd probably claim Comrie. I feel bad for him. Guy just needs to gets some games in.
    18 févr. 2021 à 11 h 45
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    Quoting: Sid_the_kid_875948
    Apparently they do if they want him


    When have they ever said they wanted him? It's just people speculated on what teams he could..not will, be traded to!!
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    18 févr. 2021 à 11 h 47
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    Quoting: Sid_the_kid_875948
    Apparently they do if they want him


    there is nothing linking the Avs tryign to get Crosby...its just Pens wet dreams right now bc of Dreger thinking Crosby could ask to be traded if things dont turn around.
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    18 févr. 2021 à 11 h 48
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    Avs are a hard No
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    18 févr. 2021 à 11 h 50
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    Quoting: Jeuck75
    When have they ever said they wanted him? It's just people speculated on what teams he could..not will, be traded to!!


    there is nothing reported on this.
    It was Dreger who put out the click bait thought that Crosby could ask to be moved if things dont turn around and he wants to go for cups instead of rebuilding, and of course says I wonder if Crosby woudl want to play with his friend Nathan MacKinnon....who wouldnt want to play with Nate right now, doesnt mean Avs are trying to trade for him

    Reality is that Crosby is in his mid 30s and has a full NMC. If he wants to go anywhere its goign ot be somewhere he hand picks. There will not be an arms race bidding war of teams trying to get him. THe place that Crosby wants to finish his career in will be the one he wants and Pens will have to do the best they can to accomodate his request bc no team is going to destory their roster and prospect pipeline that are used to be cup contenders to make crosby work and relaunch the pens into a rebuild. It will be 1 step foward 2 steps back
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    18 févr. 2021 à 11 h 53
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    Quoting: coga16
    he didnt get it yesterday either. He is not understanding how elite play on the ELC in Byram is worth more to the avs who have a tight cap situation the next few years with their cup window than Crosby who we have to admit is entering the twlight portion of his career.


    I'm just sayin that you'd have a better chance at a cup. Also the avalanche aren't going into a rebuild any time soon, so stocking up on prospects wont help them if they already have depth and nhl caliber players playing. If Crosby were to be traded here though (most likely not gonna happen) then the pens would want a guy like byram back because he is young and the pens are going into a rebuild soon. But yes, Byram is untouchable by fans perspective. But if he was to be traded here I would hope that the pens would be able to get a return like this.
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    Quoting: Saskleaf
    Crosby for Nylander? Toronto will add Kerfoot and 2 1sts if you want.


    No thanks
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    18 févr. 2021 à 12 h 3
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    If NJD let Palmieri walk in off-season, they will have a surplus of centers and a need for finishers on wing (until Foote, Holtz and Mercer arrive).

    Not sure Sharangovich / Zucker is the best center-for-winger deal for NJD however. I think Zacha or Mcleod more likely to be traded, Sharangovich kept as future 3c.

    So, it's a maybe from NJD.
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    18 févr. 2021 à 12 h 5
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    I'm just sayin that you'd have a better chance at a cup. Also the avalanche aren't going into a rebuild any time soon, so stocking up on prospects wont help them if they already have depth and nhl caliber players playing. If Crosby were to be traded here though (most likely not gonna happen) then the pens would want a guy like byram back because he is young and the pens are going into a rebuild soon. But yes, Byram is untouchable by fans perspective. But if he was to be traded here I would hope that the pens would be able to get a return like this.


    that is the most backwards logic you can have....you remain cup contenders for a long time bc you have high end prospects feeding your roster bc you are taking advantage of their ELCs.

    You aren't getting byram my man, its not even fans prospective, its a reality. You wont be able to get him
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    18 févr. 2021 à 12 h 8
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    Quoting: coga16
    that is the most backwards logic you can have....you remain cup contenders for a long time bc you have high end prospects feeding your roster bc you are taking advantage of their ELCs.

    You aren't getting byram my man, its not even fans prospective, its a reality. You wont be able to get him


    Again its whether or not the pens would trade crosby for a bunch of roster players that wont help there rebuild. This is what THEY would want. There not gonna trade Crosby if they dont get some prospects back. Now I'm not sayin that Byram is gonna get traded for Crosby. But this is what the pens would want for him
    18 févr. 2021 à 12 h 17
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    Again its whether or not the pens would trade crosby for a bunch of roster players that wont help there rebuild. This is what THEY would want. There not gonna trade Crosby if they dont get some prospects back. Now I'm not sayin that Byram is gonna get traded for Crosby. But this is what the pens would want for him


    i am not saying yo wont get prospects back but you arent getting to get a young Dman like Byram who is making a serious impact on a cup contending team on his ELC. He is already one of the avs ice time leaders on D with how good he is.

    That is not being moved. Like I said yesterday, Newhook is the guy they would dangle in a crosby trade, not Byram or a Girard or anyone like that
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    18 févr. 2021 à 12 h 26
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    Quoting: coga16
    i am not saying yo wont get prospects back but you arent getting to get a young Dman like Byram who is making a serious impact on a cup contending team on his ELC. He is already one of the avs ice time leaders on D with how good he is.

    That is not being moved. Like I said yesterday, Newhook is the guy they would dangle in a crosby trade, not Byram or a Girard or anyone like that


    Yeah that's what you would want, but that's not the what the pens would want
    18 févr. 2021 à 12 h 30
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    Quoting: coga16
    i am not saying yo wont get prospects back but you arent getting to get a young Dman like Byram who is making a serious impact on a cup contending team on his ELC. He is already one of the avs ice time leaders on D with how good he is.

    That is not being moved. Like I said yesterday, Newhook is the guy they would dangle in a crosby trade, not Byram or a Girard or anyone like that


    Also I'm sorry if you think I'm talking rude. I just dont think that the pens will trade for a prospect like that unless they know if he will be good or not
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    Quoting: Sid_the_kid_875948
    Byram is no crosby


    its not a one for one trade yes byram is no crosby
    18 févr. 2021 à 12 h 34
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    ducks decline and avs say no thanks
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    18 févr. 2021 à 12 h 36
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    Quoting: Sid_the_kid_875948
    Yeah that's what you would want, but that's not the what the pens would want


    again you arent getting it...its not what I want, its what the Avs would want, and its not what the Pens want its what you want.
    If Crosby wants to be traded, pens have to work whatever team he selects to get the best package out of....they arent getting that teams best of the best young assets bc they dont have to give them up, they arent competing with anyone in a trade for him
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    18 févr. 2021 à 12 h 49
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    Quoting: coga16
    again you arent getting it...its not what I want, its what the Avs would want, and its not what the Pens want its what you want.
    If Crosby wants to be traded, pens have to work whatever team he selects to get the best package out of....they arent getting that teams best of the best young assets bc they dont have to give them up, they arent competing with anyone in a trade for him


    Can we at least agree that Crosby isn't getting traded here?
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    Can we at least agree that Crosby isn't getting traded here?


    It will be impossible to trade him without Penguins wiling to accept less than full value for him.
    Malkin is the most likely big pens trade to happen.
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    18 févr. 2021 à 13 h 46
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    Modifié 18 févr. 2021 à 13 h 56
    Quoting: HabsFan9
    I like the Avs trade a lot, I think it's good value without considering the cap implications for Colorado

    Crosby at $8.7m makes it unfeasible for Colorado, especially if they're moving an ELC Dman the other way.

    Quoting: Sid_the_kid_875948
    Byram is no crosby


    Byram is 14 years younger than Crosby. Would you rather have Crosby for 4 years in his late 30's, or have Byram for at least a decade through his entire prime?
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    rather just claim Comrie then tren for a 3rd goalie. NO clue what is wrong with Francouz yet. No one knows if hes dead dead or what


    Bednar said in a radio interview yesterday that Francouz is out long-term.
    18 févr. 2021 à 13 h 49
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    Quoting: Richard88
    Bednar said in a radio interview yesterday that Francouz is out long-term.


    and long term is what in Bednar speak? We have no clue
    Probably means he doesnt have a timeline so stop asking
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