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Granlund for Vesey plus

Créé par: Trickster
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 17 févr. 2021
Publié: 17 févr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Haven't done this in a while.
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Would this be enough to acquire a pending UFA?
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TOR
  1. Granlund, Mikael (1 875 000 $ retained)
NSH
  1. Kara, Vladislav [Liste de réserve]
  2. Vesey, Jimmy
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
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17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 9
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I’m pretty sure Nashville tells you to pound it if you offer them Vesey. You know he kinda told them to shove it and that he wouldn’t play for them right?
villenash a aimé ceci.
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 11
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Vesey's not worth anything.

Hahaha, just kidding actually. The king would require several firsts from Nashville.
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 11
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Vesey isn’t worth the dirt on my boots
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 13
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Quoting: MOTDux
Vesey isn’t worth the dirt on my boots


Good thing you deleted those Shattenkirk trades quickly, those were atrocious
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 13
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Not even close
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17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 15
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Quoting: LeafsfanMathews
Good thing you deleted those Shattenkirk trades quickly, those were atrocious


Just as atrocious as this. Maybe he should do the same.
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 15
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I forgot the Nashville Vesey thing.

But besides that I just don't see any value for Nashville here.

So they're retaining to pay Vesey more. He's the inferior player. By far.

Granlund was a c earlier in his career so that flexibility has value. He's also pushed ppg at his best and remained productive always.

A 3rd and a meh at best prospect?

Simply put why?
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17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 16
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Due to cap, need to include Vesey.
I think a conditional 2nd rounder instead of 3rd would be enough no?
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17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 18
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Just as atrocious as this. Maybe he should do the same.


Yup, everyone does it. I believe it’s “the pot calling the kettle black”.
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 18
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I forgot the Nashville Vesey thing.

But besides that I just don't see any value for Nashville here.

So they're retaining to pay Vesey more. He's the inferior player. By far.

Granlund was a c earlier in his career so that flexibility has value. He's also pushed ppg at his best and remained productive always.

A 3rd and a meh at best prospect?

Simply put why?


My thought is we need a different FW on that 3rd line, maybe even occasionally play up a bit.


Grandlund needs a change in scenery to me.
17 févr. 2021 à 13 h 22
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Quoting: Trickster
Due to cap, need to include Vesey.
I think a conditional 2nd rounder instead of 3rd would be enough no?


They can just waive vesey. Doesn’t count against the cap while on the taxi squad.
17 févr. 2021 à 14 h 30
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My thought is we need a different FW on that 3rd line, maybe even occasionally play up a bit.


Grandlund needs a change in scenery to me.


No I see why the Leafs benefit hugely. My question of why is why for Nashville. They get so little
17 févr. 2021 à 14 h 57
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No I see why the Leafs benefit hugely. My question of why is why for Nashville. They get so little


What do you think is fair value for a pending UFA?
17 févr. 2021 à 19 h 10
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What do you think is fair value for a pending UFA?


That's a silly way to look at it.

He was signed like 2 months ago. Every pending Ufa is different. From trading Hall to trading Vesey they're both pending UFAs.

Anyway there are two things to think about:

What is a player worth in general (what's a 50-60 point winger who can play c worth for 1/2 a season in their prime)

AND

What's he worth to the organization he's currently with.

Nashville is 3 games below 500 but it's early in the season.

Right now he's a decent forward. Replacing him with Vesey and eating cap is worth a tonne more than a third and a meh prospect.

He's probably worth a second plus without retention.
 
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