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Mantha trade

Créé par: OnTheBoard
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 16 févr. 2021
Publié: 16 févr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Tried to make this similar to the Pacioretty trade from 2018.
VGK sent Tatar, Suzuki, and a 3rd round pick to MTL for Pacioretty.
At the time, Suzuki was the 13th overall pick of Vegas and had not played a game yet.
Please feel free to comment what you would propose, I am just looking for ideas.
Transactions
DET
  1. Poehling, Ryan
  2. Tatar, Tomas
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $70 166 309 $0 $3 137 500 $11 333 691 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
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2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 6
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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735 000 $735 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ (2 325 000 $$2M2 325 000 $$2M)
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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16 févr. 2021 à 17 h 12
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Not saying it’s good for either but for a comp it would be caufield and Tatar
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16 févr. 2021 à 17 h 15
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What do we think the ceiling is for poehling
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16 févr. 2021 à 17 h 17
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Tatar is a pending UFA so he is a negative for a rebuilding team. Poehling is not a top.prospect anymore after last season and it comes down to a 1st for Mantha. Bad trade for Wings because they do this it sets rebuild back. Rebuilding teams do not trade building blocks for pending UFA's l, ehh prospects and future picks.

If you wanted to get Mantha, it starts with a center like KK, and then Tatar to equal.off the cap, but futures makes zero sense.

But all things aside, I doubt Yzerman wants to trade him.
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16 févr. 2021 à 17 h 28
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Not overpayment but not to attractive either to Detroit. Though Tatar is similar to Mantha (right now) but older. If he resign (btw he did play for Detroit in the past) I think this trade could be really good for them given the fact that Mantha is a cancer dog**** in the locker room. Poehling and picks are just there to give a somekind of insurrance to the deal pretty much
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16 févr. 2021 à 17 h 32
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Kk + poehling + 1st and if you need to add tatar for salary sure
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16 févr. 2021 à 17 h 38
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I don’t think Detroit is interested in trading Mantha. His struggles have been way overrated, there’s been no indication that he wants out, and Yzerman just signed him to a 4 year extension. If Detroit were to trade him it would have to be for multiple top prospects, or a top prospect + a 1st imo. Regardless, I don’t think Detroit trades him unless he wants out.
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16 févr. 2021 à 17 h 55
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For the 1001th time this year, if Montreal wants Mantha then Detroit would want KK. I’d wager Montreal fans are going to hate that so I’d say we just aren’t great trading partners.

Quoting: Tarlam01
Not overpayment but not to attractive either to Detroit. Though Tatar is similar to Mantha (right now) but older. If he resign (btw he did play for Detroit in the past) I think this trade could be really good for them given the fact that Mantha is a cancer dog**** in the locker room. Poehling and picks are just there to give a somekind of insurrance to the deal pretty much

Do you have any evidence to backup the locker room cancer claim or are we just merely speculating?

Quoting: Jfstompers
What do we think the ceiling is for poehling

3C ceiling, bottom six center.
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16 févr. 2021 à 17 h 57
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What do we think the ceiling is for poehling


Poehling max is a 3C he will never be anything but a bottom 6 forward. He had one good game at the end of the season kind of like Hirose.
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16 févr. 2021 à 18 h 16
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Quoting: Tarlam01
Not overpayment but not to attractive either to Detroit. Though Tatar is similar to Mantha (right now) but older. If he resign (btw he did play for Detroit in the past) I think this trade could be really good for them given the fact that Mantha is a cancer dog**** in the locker room. Poehling and picks are just there to give a somekind of insurrance to the deal pretty much


You can't call him "a cancer dog**** in the locker room" and still want him on your team. If you really thought that he was "cancer dog**** in the locker room" you wouldn't want him on you team. This is stuff you learn in middle school or at least high school.
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16 févr. 2021 à 20 h 56
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Quoting: Tarlam01
Not overpayment but not to attractive either to Detroit. Though Tatar is similar to Mantha (right now) but older. If he resign (btw he did play for Detroit in the past) I think this trade could be really good for them given the fact that Mantha is a cancer dog**** in the locker room. Poehling and picks are just there to give a somekind of insurrance to the deal pretty much


Yes we know Tatar played I. Detroit. And we also know he wanted out and was traded away. And I have never heard he is a cancer, where did you hear that? He just has a maturity issue or he is tired of losing as many of the young players on this team feel. And Poehling and picks are not going to do it.

Rebuilding teams do not trade young good players for younger average ppl players and pi is. It only prolongs a rebuild and hurts causing problems, with the players and the fanbase.
 
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