I think NSH should accept the Ellis proposal, and the Ekholm one is close. With the retention, I think if TOR either upgrades Hållander to Abruzzese, or both Hållander & Sandin to Robertson, NSH accepts.

NSH declines the Arvidsson offer without hesitation. Even with the Caps' goalie situation, that seems like a lot for Rinne right now. WSH doesn't have the capspace to make it work anyway.

If the Preds are doing this much selling, Granlund and Haula are certainly gone to the highest bidder too. Possibly Jarnkrok, Grimaldi, Cousins, Benning, Boroweicki...

I don't get the Hainsey signing. There are still enough warm bodies and prospects left, that it's not necessary.

Its more of a retool and youth injection. The blueline turned to crap for this season in the scenario, but they stay competitive due to the forward depth. It wouldn't hurt to trade Haula and Granlund, but I didn't do that.

What needs to be added in the Boston trade?

I think the Ekholm trade is fair.

Hainsey is to give Lilly an experienced veteran and mentor to play with.

I don't think there's an add that works for NSH, in the Arvidsson proposal. BOS doesn't have any main roster players I could see them wanting to give up, that would make sense for NSH here. Kase doesn't really bring any value. He's an RFA with arbitration rights and isn't living up to his current contract. I wouldn't want to pay what ever he gets on his next deal. The 1st is presumably a late pick in what's supposed to be a weaker draft, and Studnicka isn't a high end enough prospect to be the main piece here. BOS doesn't really have much else of value prospect-wise though, and their next couple 1sts likely will be later picks too.

Borowiecki and Sbisa are both experienced vets that could mentor. I'd at least try them with Liljegren first, instead of signing a near 40 year old who hasn't played in a year.

Leafs say no too Ellis deal and they say no to the Ekholm deal.

We already have a solid top four and Ellis makes too much. We will be protecting 4D in expansion so Ellis doesn't make sense... Especially for Nylander.

Ekholm I would entertain, but not for the price of Sandin and a first. I would do liljegren and a first but sandin is off limits.

Cmon, Studnicka and a 1st AND kase for a 2nd line winger. Yeah we want a 2nd line winger, but bruins are paying too much for that one lol

Sorry, but a 30 goal scorer with term only making $4.25M is going to cost more than Studnicka, a late 1st, and a cap dump.

Just dont think BOS gives up Studnicka. With Krejci's future up in the air, i cant see them parting with their best C (and overall) prospect for Arvi. I think Arvidsson would be a good fit (as would Ekholm) but i just cant see Stud being part of that deal. That may be a deal-breaker for NSH as well.

C'mon, that trade is fair value and you know it. 30 goal scorer on one of the best contracts in the league with term for your best C prospect that might only become a 2C if he reaches his potential, a mediocre middle 6 winger Kase, and a late 1st. Don't be naive.

If you don't want to make the trade, that's fine. Just don't act like that ain't a fair trade lol

Just look through recent trades with a 1st rounder involved. a 1st AND a top 6 forward prospect AND a middle 6 guy with top 6 potential is more than enough
My best comparison rn is the JT miller trade.

Tampa Bay Lightning
Marek Mazanec · $0 (AHL/JR) (Signing Rights)
2019 3rd round pick (VAN - #71 - Hugo Alnefelt)
2020 conditional 1st round pick* (VAN - #20 - Shakir Mukhamadullin)
*Conditions: If the Canucks do not make the playoffs in 2019-20, the 2020 1st round pick will transfer to a 2021 1st round pick instead.

Result: Vancouver will transfer the 2020 1st round pick.
Sum: $0
Change: -$5,250,000
Trade
Vancouver Canucks Acquire:
Vancouver Canucks
J.T. Miller · $5,250,000
Sum: $5,250,000
Change: +$5,250,000

Fair Trade: Viktor Arvidson -- For -- 1st Rounder, 3rd Rounder, Ondrej Kase (And thats still more value than the Miller trade)

We are talking about a consistent 30 goal scorer, not a 50 point 20 goal scorer which is what JT was at the time of that trade.

Think closer to the Paciorrety trade. Patches was struggling a lot before he was traded and the return was Nick Suzuki, Tatar, and a 2nd(50OA). Like I said, Patches was struggling and he still got that return. He was also 3 or 4 years older than Arvidsson. You can argue that Arvidssons return would be bigger than Patches because of his age, contract, and goal scoring consistency.

Sounds to me like Studnicka, Kase, and a 2021 1st for Arvidsson is fair, if not an underpay.

Would u give up Iafollo, Kaliyev, and JAD for Arviddson?

By the time we are a contender he'll be 32, he doesn't fit the timeline.

I know ur rebuilding lmoa, Im just saying value-wise

Arvidsson is probably worth more than that.