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Penguins rebuild

Créé par: oskar
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 15 févr. 2021
Publié: 15 févr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Timmins and O'Connor to taxi squad when Calvert and Johnson are back.
Transactions
PIT
  1. Barron, Justin [Liste de réserve]
  2. Donskoi, Joonas
  3. Helleson, Drew [Liste de réserve]
  4. Kadri, Nazem
  5. Newhook, Alex [Liste de réserve]
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (COL)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (COL)
  8. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
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Logo de COL
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2022
Logo de COL
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Logo de COL
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2023
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Logo de COL
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $79 951 387 $0 $5 482 500 $1 548 613 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 571 429 $5 571 429 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 5
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
874 125 $874 125 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
725 000 $725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 166 667 $3 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
725 000 $725 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
725 000 $725 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C
UFA - 1

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15 févr. 2021 à 6 h 28
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i hope the avs wouldn't do that
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15 févr. 2021 à 8 h 27
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I heff to be mad...
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Penguins most definitely accept more than the Avs.
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15 févr. 2021 à 9 h 8
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Too many firsts
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15 févr. 2021 à 9 h 12
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That’s a ridiculous over pay by the Avs even for Crosby.
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15 févr. 2021 à 9 h 30
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Newhook, Alex [Reserve List]
Barron, Justin [Reserve List]
Helleson, Drew [Reserve List]
Kadri, Nazem
Donskoi, Joonas
2021 1st round pick (COL)
2022 1st round pick (COL)
2023 1st round pick (COL)

That's 5 1sts effectively (if you count Newhook and Barron as 1sts, though Newhook is more than just a 1st since he's a bluechip), plus a really promising 2nd round drafted Dman, PLUS a 2C on a cheap contract, PLUS a middle 6 forward. That's insaaane. If Crosby was 23 years old maybe you could make a case for an enormous overpayment, but at 33? Huge pass.
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15 févr. 2021 à 10 h 16
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Yeah, it's hard to evaluate the value for an "untradeable" player.
The main point is obviously that it would be cool to see Crosby on the avs if the penguins decide to rebuild.

Even though that's not the main point, what would be a fair price then?
No firsts at all?
15 févr. 2021 à 11 h 43
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Yeah, it's hard to evaluate the value for an "untradeable" player.
The main point is obviously that it would be cool to see Crosby on the avs if the penguins decide to rebuild.

Even though that's not the main point, what would be a fair price then?
No firsts at all?


Newhook, Kadri, Donskoi and Helleson and one first on top is the max I would offer out of that (and even then I'm not sure I'd do it). Pens get a replacement C for now, a future top prospect at C to replace Crosby, Donskoi helps balance cap and they get a couple of decent bonus pieces on top. For a 33 yr old, even if it is Crosby, that's still a decent haul.
15 févr. 2021 à 12 h 1
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The hard part for the Avs is that they don't have any top-tier forward prospects to offer outside of Newhook and he is their future 2C (at least that's what they likely see him as). Plus, you're trading a 20 y/o for a 33 y/o who, to be fair, still plays at a high level but is no longer in his prime and has maybe 3-4 good years left in him compared to a guy that could conceivably, if he pans out and reaches his ceiling, play well for you for the next 15 years.

If the Pens were willing to take a package of those D prospects and picks so they could rebuild, maybe you do it but even then those D prospects might have more value to the Avs to obtain more scoring help in the future one way or another. If the Avs are reasonably sure Newhook is going to come in next year and be an effective player and be a good 2C within a year or two, there is no reason to make this trade and, in all reality, it would probably make them less likely to be a contender for as long as if they held onto those prospects and first-round picks. Don't get me wrong, it's tempting and if Crosby were a few years younger I'd probably be for it but if that were the case, he wouldn't even be in a trade conversation.
15 févr. 2021 à 14 h 7
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Some better replies there, thanks=)
I think the window is most wide open for the avs counting from last year until MacK's new contract, so it makes sense to maximize the chance of winning every year until that is up.
I'm super excited for Newhook and he should have a great chance at becoming at least an excellent 2C in the NHL. If he would max out being as good as Crosby would realistically be in 3 years I think most avs fans would take it. And he would probably not reach that full potential until in 4-5 years.
But yeah, taking on a 8,5 mil contract for another 5 years for a player that's already 33 is a big risk and I haven't counted how it would affect Makar and Landy's new contracts.
 
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