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Nylander

Créé par: Jah1722
Équipe: 2020-21 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 12 févr. 2021
Publié: 12 févr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Deslauriers, Nicolas
  2. Larsson, Jacob
  3. Mahura, Josh
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
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12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 22
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nope not enough for Nylander
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 26
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Leafs fans won’t like this one lol
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 29
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Another retaliation post?
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 29
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Leafs are win mode, so they keep Nylander. I don't think the Ducks should do it either. Keep their picks, Larsson and cap space that Nylander would. take for another player.
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 30
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ooooooooof that pick better be top 5-7
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 33
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
nope not enough for Nylander


Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Another retaliation post?


Quoting: palhal
Leafs are win mode, so they keep Nylander. I don't think the Ducks should do it either. Keep their picks, Larsson and cap space that Nylander would. take for another player.


Quoting: BigOaf69
ooooooooof that pick better be top 5-7


I just looked at some numbers that showed Rakell as good if not better than Nylander so I offered a similar package that’s being offered for Rakell by TOR fans.
Rusty_Bottles a aimé ceci.
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 34
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Meh for the Leafs.

This is the year they should concentrate on being at their strongest since they don't have to worry about facing teams like BOS, TB or CBJ at the first round. They have almost guaranteed spot on the top4 in the league, as one canadian team is is guaranteed to get there, and the only real competitor thus far seems to be the Habs. So the time to make a completely future building deal is not now.

Not to mention that both Larsson and Mahura will be left exposed in the ExD. And most likely Mahura would get picked.

It'd total up to Larsson (5th LD in Leafs depth chart), Deslauriers (4th liner), and a meh pick in a bad draft for a great young top-6 winger.

TLDR: meh for the Leafs.
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 34
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Quoting: Jah1722
I just looked at some numbers that showed Rakell as good if not better than Nylander so I offered a similar package that’s being offered for Rakell by TOR fans.


So, yes...
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 38
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Quoting: Jah1722
I just looked at some numbers that showed Rakell as good if not better than Nylander so I offered a similar package that’s being offered for Rakell by TOR fans.


I don't think those numbers are real
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 41
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Based on the last three posts based around leafs and Ducks trades I’d say there may be a war coming, the capfriendly war of 2021 between the Ducks and leafs fans looks like it is about to come to fruition
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 42
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
So, yes...


No. Seeing if people expect exponentially more than for Nylander than for Rakell.
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 44
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Quoting: Swedenheim
Based on the last three posts based around leafs and Ducks trades I’d say there may be a war coming, the capfriendly war of 2021 between the Ducks and leafs fans looks like it is about to come to fruition


Nah it’s just the “player A sucks” but we still want him mentality from Leaf fans. It’s always been like that for them. They’ve just found another target.
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 52
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Wrong move the Leafs to trade Nylander right now and also not a great move for the Ducks to give up (will cost more then you have here) major assets.
12 févr. 2021 à 20 h 54
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Quoting: Jah1722
I just looked at some numbers that showed Rakell as good if not better than Nylander so I offered a similar package that’s being offered for Rakell by TOR fans.


Which stats? I wouldn’t offer this for rakell and decline for nylander. Nylander is also trending up while rakell is trending down imo.

Only package that the leafs would consider is one that contains zegras or drysdale as the headliner. Those are probably untouchable but so is nylander.
12 févr. 2021 à 21 h 4
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Which stats? I wouldn’t offer this for rakell and decline for nylander. Nylander is also trending up while rakell is trending down imo.

Only package that the leafs would consider is one that contains zegras or drysdale as the headliner. Those are probably untouchable but so is nylander.


TOR and ANA players Rakell is 3rd in ixG behind Matthews and Marner and 2nd in iSF, iFF, and tied with Matthews in iCF. That’s overall. Even strength Rakell is tops in iCF and iFF and only behind Matthews in ixG and iSF.
12 févr. 2021 à 21 h 10
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mostly scraps and were. trying to win now
12 févr. 2021 à 21 h 22
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Quoting: Jah1722
I just looked at some numbers that showed Rakell as good if not better than Nylander so I offered a similar package that’s being offered for Rakell by TOR fans.


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I don't think those numbers are real


Lol. The numbers that's referred to are the ones the user commented on my post on trying to justify that Rakell better and should get a kings ransom for despite not producing well for 3 seasons.

They said:
" I’d also like to point out that between TOR and ANA players Rakell is 3rd in ixG behind Matthews and Marner and 2nd in iSF, iFF, and tied with Matthews in iCF." but they fail to mention that Nylander and Marner are still far better in many other categories. Apparently 2 categories makes Rakell an all star still. 🤷🏻‍♂️
12 févr. 2021 à 21 h 23
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Lol. The numbers that's referred to are the ones the user commented on my post on trying to justify that Rakell better and should get a kings ransom for despite not producing well for 3 seasons.

They said:
" I’d also like to point out that between TOR and ANA players Rakell is 3rd in ixG behind Matthews and Marner and 2nd in iSF, iFF, and tied with Matthews in iCF." but they fail to mention that Nylander and Marner are still far better in many other categories. Apparently 2 categories makes Rakell an all star still. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Apparently no one on TOR drives play. Your words not mine.
12 févr. 2021 à 21 h 27
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Meh for the Leafs.

This is the year they should concentrate on being at their strongest since they don't have to worry about facing teams like BOS, TB or CBJ at the first round. They have almost guaranteed spot on the top4 in the league, as one canadian team is is guaranteed to get there, and the only real competitor thus far seems to be the Habs. So the time to make a completely future building deal is not now.

Not to mention that both Larsson and Mahura will be left exposed in the ExD. And most likely Mahura would get picked.

It'd total up to Larsson (5th LD in Leafs depth chart), Deslauriers (4th liner), and a meh pick in a bad draft for a great young top-6 winger.

TLDR: meh for the Leafs.


Larsson wouldn't even be a 5th d-man in Toronto. Dermott, Sandin, and Lehtonen would be ahead of him. Hell even Liljegren may make the jump by then. He's at best the #8 guy. No interest from Toronto
12 févr. 2021 à 21 h 38
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Larsson wouldn't even be a 5th d-man in Toronto. Dermott, Sandin, and Lehtonen would be ahead of him. Hell even Liljegren may make the jump by then. He's at best the #8 guy. No interest from Toronto


Lol Larsson is better than Dermott this year. But keep going please.
12 févr. 2021 à 21 h 40
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I just looked at some numbers that showed Rakell as good if not better than Nylander so I offered a similar package that’s being offered for Rakell by TOR fans.


he's not nearly as good but lets say for fun he is. Nylander is younger with double the term on his contract, plus a contending team isn't trading a key contributor for futures while a team like the ducks might.
12 févr. 2021 à 21 h 43
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TOR and ANA players Rakell is 3rd in ixG behind Matthews and Marner and 2nd in iSF, iFF, and tied with Matthews in iCF. That’s overall. Even strength Rakell is tops in iCF and iFF and only behind Matthews in ixG and iSF.


That’s based on a 14 game sample size though. Nyalnder is ahead in half of those stats last year and most of them are close.

Nylander lead in almost every other metric like xGF xGA GF% SF% etc. last year. That’s also just the underlying numbers, rakell has struggled to finish chances for the third year in a row as nylander is doubling his goal totals.

One trade I prosposed at the draft was rakell + 4 for nylander and 15 or smth like that. I think that’s the value difference.
12 févr. 2021 à 21 h 45
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he's not nearly as good but lets say for fun he is. Nylander is younger with double the term on his contract, plus a contending team isn't trading a key contributor for futures while a team like the ducks might.


That wasn’t the point of this post. Just pointing out that Leaf fans expect a lot more than they expect to give up for Rakell which the numbers show Rakell is better.
12 févr. 2021 à 21 h 50
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Quoting: CeciGOAT
That’s based on a 14 game sample size though. Nyalnder is ahead in half of those stats last year and most of them are close.

Nylander lead in almost every other metric like xGF xGA GF% SF% etc. last year. That’s also just the underlying numbers, rakell has struggled to finish chances for the third year in a row as nylander is doubling his goal totals.

One trade I prosposed at the draft was rakell + 4 for nylander and 15 or smth like that. I think that’s the value difference.


I was told Rakell doesn’t drive play. He does. Also Rakell has played VGK, STL, COL and MIN for 10 of his 15 games. May be a small sample size but it’s against the best.
12 févr. 2021 à 21 h 56
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I was told Rakell doesn’t drive play. He does. Also Rakell has played VGK, STL, COL and MIN for 10 of his 15 games. May be a small sample size but it’s against the best.


That’s fair. My stance is still that trades aren’t made on a couple underlying metrics. Rakell can drive play but he’s still a goal scorer who’s struggling to score goals for the 3rd year in a row.
 
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