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Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 5 févr. 2021
Publié: 5 févr. 2021
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5 févr. 2021 à 11 h 57
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no
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5 févr. 2021 à 11 h 58
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no


like a big no
5 févr. 2021 à 12 h 0
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Why would either team do this?
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5 févr. 2021 à 12 h 2
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LOL no thank you
5 févr. 2021 à 12 h 6
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lol. the kid has a couple of good games and he's valued like McDavid!
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5 févr. 2021 à 12 h 9
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like a big no


such a stretch lol
5 févr. 2021 à 12 h 10
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You forget a critical component of this trade.

Melnyk paying 1 player smile
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5 févr. 2021 à 12 h 12
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3 of these players are not gettin paid
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5 févr. 2021 à 12 h 13
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Why would either team do this?


the Oilers instantly become better
5 févr. 2021 à 12 h 39
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As an oilers fan, no.
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5 févr. 2021 à 13 h 0
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As either fan base
No thanks
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5 févr. 2021 à 13 h 4
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Neither team wins this
5 févr. 2021 à 13 h 15
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lol. the kid has a couple of good games and he's valued like McDavid!


Sens fans don't value Stützle like McDavid, they just value him more than a quantity offer like this. The Sens have their own prospects, pretty good ones too, they don't need more. They need high end players, and that's Stützle, so why would they trade him for quantity?
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5 févr. 2021 à 14 h 47
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lol. the kid has a couple of good games and he's valued like McDavid!


hes not mcdavid but theres not much there to entice the sens, they're fine on d prospects, puljujarvi is meh, RNH is a pending UFA, basically the only piece they would actively want is holloway and he would maybe be a top 5 prospect in our pool
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5 févr. 2021 à 15 h 18
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Sens fans don't value Stützle like McDavid, they just value him more than a quantity offer like this. The Sens have their own prospects, pretty good ones too, they don't need more. They need high end players, and that's Stützle, so why would they trade him for quantity?


I should add, this is a very good offer, it's just not likely to happen.
5 févr. 2021 à 15 h 19
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hes not mcdavid but theres not much there to entice the sens, they're fine on d prospects, puljujarvi is meh, RNH is a pending UFA, basically the only piece they would actively want is holloway and he would maybe be a top 5 prospect in our pool


who in your prospect pool are better than Holloway and Broberg?
5 févr. 2021 à 15 h 30
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who in your prospect pool are better than Holloway and Broberg?


sanderson, norris, pinto mainly, its more that neither holloway or broberg have gamebreaker potential like tim, its not a bad offer it just doesnt really make sense
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5 févr. 2021 à 15 h 32
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who in your prospect pool are better than Holloway and Broberg?


Here's Ottawa's top 10 prospects, go ahead and rip each one and tell us all how much better the guys you want to trade are.

Tim Stützle
Jake Sanderson
Drake Batherson
Logan Brown
Alex Formenton
Josh Norris
Jacob Bernard-Docker
Erik Brannstrom
Shane Pinto
Lassi Thomson
5 févr. 2021 à 15 h 36
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the Oilers instantly become better


Nope. They aren't better now, they aren't better in the future. Huge win for Ottawa here.
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5 févr. 2021 à 15 h 38
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I don't know if they would, but they definitely should given the chance.
5 févr. 2021 à 15 h 52
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Here's Ottawa's top 10 prospects, go ahead and rip each one and tell us all how much better the guys you want to trade are.

Tim Stützle
Jake Sanderson
Drake Batherson
Logan Brown
Alex Formenton
Josh Norris
Jacob Bernard-Docker
Erik Brannstrom
Shane Pinto
Lassi Thomson


to be fair i would take holloway and brobeg over a most of those guys pretty easily, sens just wont move tim unless its a for an upgrade like Eichel or something
5 févr. 2021 à 16 h 11
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to be fair i would take holloway and brobeg over a most of those guys pretty easily, sens just wont move tim unless its a for an upgrade like Eichel or something


Broberg might be a bigger Mike Reilly. He's probably an NHL player, just not an important one.

Holloway should be decent, but might be more like Nick Paul than not, it's hard to say right now.

Of these four pieces, only RNH is, or has a chance to be, a top6 F or a top3 D.

Bouchard would have to replace Broberg to even start a conversation, and an extension by RNH. They are the two main pieces, with Puljujarvi headed to Paajarvi status, which isn't bad, just not great, and Holloway is an unknown right now.
5 févr. 2021 à 16 h 28
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Broberg might be a bigger Mike Reilly. He's probably an NHL player, just not an important one.

Holloway should be decent, but might be more like Nick Paul than not, it's hard to say right now.

Of these four pieces, only RNH is, or has a chance to be, a top6 F or a top3 D.

Bouchard would have to replace Broberg to even start a conversation, and an extension by RNH. They are the two main pieces, with Puljujarvi headed to Paajarvi status, which isn't bad, just not great, and Holloway is an unknown right now.


i think you're kind of underrating both of them to be fair, broberg is pretty good he could get to a 3d spot but holloway is pretty nice id probably put him right with formenton
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5 févr. 2021 à 16 h 35
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Broberg might be a bigger Mike Reilly. He's probably an NHL player, just not an important one.

Holloway should be decent, but might be more like Nick Paul than not, it's hard to say right now.

Of these four pieces, only RNH is, or has a chance to be, a top6 F or a top3 D.

Bouchard would have to replace Broberg to even start a conversation, and an extension by RNH. They are the two main pieces, with Puljujarvi headed to Paajarvi status, which isn't bad, just not great, and Holloway is an unknown right now.


Quoting: Borocop
i think you're kind of underrating both of them to be fair, broberg is pretty good he could get to a 3d spot but holloway is pretty nice id probably put him right with formenton


Holloway is 1.6 P/GP in NCAA right now. Nick Paul was 0.69 P/GP in a lower league in his draft+1. That's an extremely unintelligent take.
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5 févr. 2021 à 16 h 51
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i think you're kind of underrating both of them to be fair, broberg is pretty good he could get to a 3d spot but holloway is pretty nice id probably put him right with formenton


Exactly, this is what I'm saying.

Broberg is going to be an NHL defenceman, and that's a successful draft pick. He could be a number 3 on a bad team, probably will be a 4/5 on a decent team.

Holloway could be like Formenton, who may not be any better than Paul, but very different than Paul. Now look where Formenton is on the Ottawa prospect list, and that makes Holloway barely a top5 prospect for Ottawa, and he's the better of the two prospects we're discussing right now.
 
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