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Is it enough Could you make it work

Créé par: cjacks1212
Date de création initiale: fév 1, 2021
Publié: 1 fév à 15 h 00
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Transactions
TOR
  1. Gibson, John
ANA
  1. Andersen, Frederik
  2. Sandin, Rasmus
  3. 2021 1e round pick (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $81 650 616 $0 $0 $-150 616 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Vesey, Jimmy
900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Anderson, Joey
750 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
ANA
Gibson, John
6 400 000 $
G
UFA - 7
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
1 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
821 667 $
AG
RFA - 3
TOR
Thornton, Joe
700 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $ (175 000 $)
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
725 000 $ (0 $)
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Boyd, Travis
700 000 $ (0 $)
C, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Brooks, Adam
725 000 $ (0 $)
C
RFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
874 125 $ (0 $)
DG
RFA - 1

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1 fév à 15 h 03
#1
Rejoint: jui 2020
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that is fair value BUT Anaheim already traded Andersen so idk if they want him back
GenXHockey a aimé ceci.
1 fév à 15 h 04
#2
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That is not near enough, Freddy has no value in a Gibson trade. Sandin and a late first doesnt get you Gibsons skates
MOTDux a aimé ceci.
1 fév à 15 h 05
#3
Dirty_dangles_37
Rejoint: oct 2020
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not even close, some people say gibson is near untouchable
MOTDux a aimé ceci.
1 fév à 15 h 08
#4
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Cjacks
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 186
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Quoting: habsfan00
that is fair value BUT Anaheim already traded Andersen so idk if they want him back


My thought would be they flip him as well... Double down.
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1 fév à 15 h 09
#5
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Cjacks
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Quoting: Salzy
That is not near enough, Freddy has no value in a Gibson trade. Sandin and a late first doesnt get you Gibsons skates


Fair.. Just thinking from a leafs persepctive he'd solidify their goaltending through-out there window of opportunity...

Thought, they would in turn flip freddy for another return.. perhaps Colorado has a look.
1 fév à 15 h 10
#6
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Cjacks
Rejoint: mai 2017
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Quoting: Dirty_dangles37
not even close, some people say gibson is near untouchable


I agree, but at what point does he want out? Ducks aren't winning anytime soon....

What kind of return do you think it would take to get him? Leafs roster only.
1 fév à 15 h 11
#7
Rejoint: nov 2018
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Quoting: cjacks1212
Fair.. Just thinking from a leafs persepctive he'd solidify their goaltending through-out there window of opportunity...

Thought, they would in turn flip freddy for another return.. perhaps Colorado has a look.


Gibson isnt going to be traded, For the Ducks to even consider moving him they would have to be getting enough back to end their rebuild, he's signed to the best contract in the League for value they have no reason to move him unless its an absolutely insane overpay. he's young enough to still be elite by the time ANA will be competitive again
1 fév à 15 h 13
#8
Quack Quack Quack!
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Quoting: Dirty_dangles37
not even close, some people say gibson is near untouchable


*is untouchable
GenXHockey a aimé ceci.
1 fév à 15 h 14
#9
Formerly Jamiepo
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Quoting: Salzy
Gibson isnt going to be traded, For the Ducks to even consider moving him they would have to be getting enough back to end their rebuild, he's signed to the best contract in the League for value they have no reason to move him unless its an absolutely insane overpay. he's young enough to still be elite by the time ANA will be competitive again


Neither team makes this trade. Ducks will be looking for an overpay that the leafs don’t want to give up.
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1 fév à 15 h 16
#10
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Neither team makes this trade. Ducks will be looking for an overpay that the leafs don’t want to give up.


100%, and any deal with Gibson wouldnt make sense for the other team involved honestly, its the same reason Price was never traded. It doesnt make sense for ANA to move him for "Fair" value whatever that would be, they would need at least triple "fair" value to even think about it
1 fév à 15 h 18
#11
not a dumb Leafs fan
Rejoint: mai 2020
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If rutherford becomes the gm somehow... he'll probably accept
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1 fév à 15 h 43
#12
NHL Trade Inspector
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Modifié 1 fév à 15 h 51
Quoting: Salzy
That is not near enough, Freddy has no value in a Gibson trade. Sandin and a late first doesnt get you Gibsons skates


What would a gibson trade look like

My idea was (still working on it)

Liligren
Amirov
Kerfoot
and a 2021 1st
(may be an overpay but hey good young goalies with a good contract and term aint easy to find)

just curious as my prediction was Dubas may not extend Freddie and trade for one of Gibson or Kuemper
1 fév à 15 h 52
#13
Rejoint: nov 2018
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Quoting: aadoyle
What would a gibson trade look like

My idea was (still working on it)

Liligren
Amirov
Kerfoot
and a 2021 1st
(may be an overpay but hey good young goalies with a good contract and term aint easy to find)

just curious as my prediction was Dubas may not extend Freddie and trade for one of Gibson or Kuemper


Still not close , it would be Nylander ++ or ANA doesnt consider.

And theres no way TOR should do that
1 fév à 21 h 56
#14
Dirty_dangles_37
Rejoint: oct 2020
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Quoting: MOTDux
*is untouchable


well ducks are rebuilding ik your a ducks fan but if they offer them 2 1sts anderson sadin Liljegren thats a good offer imo if you can take one of those first and try to trade a goalie like goergiev in backup while anderson is playing out his contract thats a faster rebuild toronto will go all in soon with there cap they wont be able to resign anyone so i think they would do this
1 fév à 21 h 56
#15
Quack Quack Quack!
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Quoting: Dirty_dangles37
well ducks are rebuilding ik your a ducks fan but if they offer them 2 1sts anderson sadin Liljegren thats a good offer imo if you can take one of those first and try to trade a goalie like goergiev in backup while anderson is playing out his contract thats a faster rebuild toronto will go all in soon with there cap they wont be able to resign anyone so i think they would do this


Ducks would want a top prospect. Like top top. A top player and a 1st rounder.
1 fév à 22 h 00
#16
Dirty_dangles_37
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Quoting: MOTDux
Ducks would want a top prospect. Like top top. A top player and a 1st rounder.


trade up with both of those 1st then defenitly could get you a top 3 and you still have the ducks pick, which if they get lucky might be high too
1 fév à 22 h 00
#17
Dirty_dangles_37
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Quoting: Salzy
Still not close , it would be Nylander ++ or ANA doesnt consider.

And theres no way TOR should do that


maybe i would think they would want a prospect tho
1 fév à 22 h 02
#18
Dirty_dangles_37
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Quoting: Dirty_dangles37
well ducks are rebuilding ik your a ducks fan but if they offer them 2 1sts anderson sadin Liljegren thats a good offer imo if you can take one of those first and try to trade a goalie like goergiev in backup while anderson is playing out his contract thats a faster rebuild toronto will go all in soon with there cap they wont be able to resign anyone so i think they would do this


@cjacks1212
1 fév à 23 h 10
#19
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Quoting: Dirty_dangles37
well ducks are rebuilding ik your a ducks fan but if they offer them 2 1sts anderson sadin Liljegren thats a good offer imo if you can take one of those first and try to trade a goalie like goergiev in backup while anderson is playing out his contract thats a faster rebuild toronto will go all in soon with there cap they wont be able to resign anyone so i think they would do this


Quantity doesn’t get you quality
1 fév à 23 h 53
#20
backcheck>paycheck
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IMO goalies never get fair value in a trade. Look over the the last 20-30 years and see what goalies have been traded, and for what. It's actually hilarious.
2 fév à 9 h 46
#21
Dirty_dangles_37
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Quoting: Salzy
Quantity doesn’t get you quality


yes it does 2 mid 1st round prospects 2 firsts rounds and a goalie get someone like georgiev and in a couple years he is a starter he is no gibson but
2 fév à 9 h 49
#22
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Quoting: Dirty_dangles37
yes it does 2 mid 1st round prospects 2 firsts rounds and a goalie get someone like georgiev and in a couple years he is a starter he is no gibson but


Wasnt asking, I was telling you. The only way TOR ever gets close to Gibson is Nylander +++
2 fév à 9 h 56
#23
Dirty_dangles_37
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Quoting: Salzy
Wasnt asking, I was telling you. The only way TOR ever gets close to Gibson is Nylander +++


i dont know bout dat id perfer like nick roberts sadin 2 1st and anderson
2 fév à 10 h 32
#24
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Quoting: Dirty_dangles37
i dont know bout dat id perfer like nick roberts sadin 2 1st and anderson


What you prefer doesnt really matter
2 fév à 10 h 39
#25
Dirty_dangles_37
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Quoting: Salzy
What you prefer doesnt really matter


well ducks are rebuilding and nylander has played with mathews and taveres i think he is overrated
 
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