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Can we trade Dermott for Dunn

Créé par: keep_ups12
Date de création initiale: jan 29, 2021
Publié: 29 jan à 18 h 00
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
I like the idea of running 7d and 11f more. There should be a rotation between Bogosian, Lehtonen and sandin, as well as a rotation for fd and 12f. As for the expansion draft we can protect Dunn, Mo and Muzzin. I don't think Holl gets taken because there will be other good bottom pairing defenseman who are probably better then Holl and younger
Transactions
TOR
  1. Dunn, Vince
STL
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. 2021 2e round pick (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
this draft sucks. use it as an asset
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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2081 500 000 $81 150 616 $0 $0 $349 384 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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Vesey, Jimmy
900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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Simmonds, Wayne
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
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Boyd, Travis
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
STL
Dunn, Vince
1 875 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
1 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Robertson, Nicholas
821 667 $
AG
RFA - 3
TOR
Thornton, Joe
700 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $ (175 000 $)
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $ (0 $)
DG
RFA - 2
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $ (0 $)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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Anderson, Joey
750 000 $ (0 $)
AD
RFA - 3
TOR
Brooks, Adam
725 000 $ (0 $)
C
RFA - 2

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29 jan à 19 h 10
#26
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Quoting: Isles777
The sheltered role doesn't mean much because his quality of teammates is very low. Dunn's role is harder than if he was facing top competition with more skilled teammates.

Muzzin and Rielly are still better than Dunn, but by next season in an increased role Dunn will likely be a top 20 D man.


I don't mean to take anything away from the guy. I fully believe he can and will become one of the games better Dmen, I just think to book it in for next season might be a bit overzealous. He'd be getting an increase in minutes of 30%+ and while, yes, QoT tends to have a greater impact than competition, there's still bound to be an adjustment period in defending the games best far more often. Idk, just my opinion.
29 jan à 19 h 15
#27
Formerly Jamiepo
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
mmm, that's a bit much, imo. I appreciate the talent that this kid has, but he's never had to play in an unsheltered role, and as much as people like to rag on the Leafs D, Rielly, Muzzin, and Brodie are all very good quality Dmen.


Holl....
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29 jan à 19 h 17
#28
Isles7
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
I don't mean to take anything away from the guy. I fully believe he can and will become one of the games better Dmen, I just think to book it in for next season might be a bit overzealous. He'd be getting an increase in minutes of 30%+ and while, yes, QoT tends to have a greater impact than competition, there's still bound to be an adjustment period in defending the games best far more often. Idk, just my opinion.


that's a fair take.
29 jan à 19 h 26
#29
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Holl....


Huge fan. But with short track record and reputation, he's more inflammatory than the other three and I didn't feel like a kerfuffle.
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29 jan à 19 h 29
#30
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Huge fan. But with short track record and reputation, he's more inflammatory than the other three and I didn't feel like a kerfuffle.


Holl is for real. Muzzin carrying him was the inflamed part. All he ever needed was experience and confidence. I get the idea of not wanting to go to battle. Cap friendly will catch up around the same time as the playoffs.
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29 jan à 21 h 18
#31
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Quoting: Isles777



I love how a person who goes by JFresh is now the authority on who is good and bad.
29 jan à 21 h 40
#32
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
I love how a person who goes by JFresh is now the authority on who is good and bad.


You can go look at any advanced stats and try to prove me wrong.
29 jan à 22 h 00
#33
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Quoting: Isles777
You can go look at any advanced stats and try to prove me wrong.


we both know there is no proving you wrong
29 jan à 23 h 37
#34
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
0 points in 7 games? Or at least that's what it was before last game. I haven't checked since then


So Dermot is zero points in 7 games and is plus 2. Dunn 2 points in 6 games, minus 3.
29 jan à 23 h 44
#35
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Holl....


Holl looks good so far this season!
29 jan à 23 h 46
#36
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If Holl continues playing the way he has so far, the top 4 is set. the bottom pairing should be Sandin and Bogo, and they should be trading Dermott for a center prospect who is exempt from the expansion. Keep Lehtonen around for Depth, give Sandin the room to play and Dermott the chance to get better somewhere else.
30 jan à 17 h 13
#37
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Quoting: Isles777
he would probably be the leafs best defenseman by next season


ok sure that is possible, but then he would most likely get taken by seatle
 
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