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Can we trade Dermott for Dunn

Créé par: keep_ups12
Date de création initiale: jan 29, 2021
Publié: 29 jan à 18 h 00
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
I like the idea of running 7d and 11f more. There should be a rotation between Bogosian, Lehtonen and sandin, as well as a rotation for fd and 12f. As for the expansion draft we can protect Dunn, Mo and Muzzin. I don't think Holl gets taken because there will be other good bottom pairing defenseman who are probably better then Holl and younger
Transactions
TOR
  1. Dunn, Vince
STL
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. 2021 2e round pick (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
this draft sucks. use it as an asset
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $81 150 616 $0 $0 $349 384 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Vesey, Jimmy
900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Boyd, Travis
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
STL
Dunn, Vince
1 875 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
1 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
821 667 $
AG
RFA - 3
TOR
Thornton, Joe
700 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $ (175 000 $)
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $ (0 $)
DG
RFA - 2
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $ (0 $)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Anderson, Joey
750 000 $ (0 $)
AD
RFA - 3
TOR
Brooks, Adam
725 000 $ (0 $)
C
RFA - 2

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29 jan à 18 h 02
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Banni
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It will probably cost more because Dermott is struggling too.
29 jan à 18 h 03
#2
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Trade aside, you have to protect both Muzzin and Brodie in the expansion draft.
29 jan à 18 h 06
#3
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Leafs don't need him
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29 jan à 18 h 13
#4
Isles7
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Quoting: Bird3
Leafs don't need him


he would probably be the leafs best defenseman by next season
29 jan à 18 h 13
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LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Nice that you don't protect Reilly in the expansion draft. Leafs don't need Dunn and it really puts the Leafs against the cap,
29 jan à 18 h 14
#6
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Quoting: Isles777
he would probably be the leafs best defenseman by next season


Gee better than Reilly, Muzzin, Brodin, maybe even Holl.
29 jan à 18 h 15
#7
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
It will probably cost more because Dermott is struggling too.


Please explain why you believe Dermott is struggling?
54.1% Corsi

He’s not struggling at all, our top 4 is set. Dunn will be in the same position
29 jan à 18 h 17
#8
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Quoting: Isles777
he would probably be the leafs best defenseman by next season


Your hot takes are just amazing. How is Dunn going to be better than Rielly, Muzzin, Brodie or even Holl? Just absolute nonsense.
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29 jan à 18 h 17
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Quoting: LeafsfanMathews
Please explain why you believe Dermott is struggling?
54.1% Corsi

He’s not struggling at all, our top 4 is set. Dunn will be in the same position


He plays for the Leafs, that means he's struggling.
29 jan à 18 h 20
#10
Pre-Med Pain.
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Maybe on Xbox
29 jan à 18 h 24
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Formerly Jamiepo
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
It will probably cost more because Dermott is struggling too.


He has looked great to me, struggled for minutes maybe. Dermott deserves a place where he can get more ice time.,
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29 jan à 18 h 25
#12
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Trade aside, you have to protect both Muzzin and Brodie in the expansion draft.


why Brodie? Does his NTC not expire?

Quoting: palhal
Nice that you don't protect Reilly in the expansion draft. Leafs don't need Dunn and it really puts the Leafs against the cap,

I just said Mo. Dermott hasn't been for the past 2 years, while Dunn has just had a bad start. We can even sell higher on him in the future
29 jan à 18 h 26
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Banni
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Quoting: LeafsfanMathews
Please explain why you believe Dermott is struggling?
54.1% Corsi

He’s not struggling at all, our top 4 is set. Dunn will be in the same position


0 points in 7 games? Or at least that's what it was before last game. I haven't checked since then
29 jan à 18 h 28
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Quoting: keep_ups12
why Brodie? Does his NTC not expire?


No, his NMC carries through the expansion draft and the becomes an NTC.
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29 jan à 18 h 29
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Isles7
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Quoting: palhal
Gee better than Reilly, Muzzin, Brodin, maybe even Holl.


Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Your hot takes are just amazing. How is Dunn going to be better than Rielly, Muzzin, Brodie or even Holl? Just absolute nonsense.


I think you guys are underrating Dunn - he's only 24, already elite and still getting better. Muzzin and rielly are the only two D that are better than him right now. I doubt a 33 YO muzzin is going to better than dunn next season.
29 jan à 18 h 29
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
0 points in 7 games? Or at least that's what it was before last game. I haven't checked since then


So a guy that gets 8 maybe 10 mins a night is supposed to be an offensive player. 😂 At least if your going to comment have some knowledge
29 jan à 18 h 29
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
0 points in 7 games? Or at least that's what it was before last game. I haven't checked since then


Some of those games were 7D games. In general I don’t think he has played more than 10 min a night, sometimes less. He has been really good defensively but is still lacking the confidence to jump up in rushes. He has all the tools. Whoever gets him (my guess is Seattle) will be really pleased.
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29 jan à 18 h 31
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Quoting: Isles777
I think you guys are underrating Dunn - he's only 24, already elite and still getting better. Muzzin and rielly are the only two D that are better than him right now. I doubt a 33 YO muzzin is going to better than dunn next season.


Fair but Dunn won’t be beating out Muzzin or Rielly next year. Dunn will be in the same position as Dermott
29 jan à 18 h 33
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
It will probably cost more because Dermott is struggling too.


I wouldn't exactly say struggling. Sure, the offence hasn't been there, but I've found him to be real good so far this season. Very reliable.
29 jan à 18 h 34
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Isles7
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Quoting: LeafsfanMathews
Fair but Dunn won’t be beating out Muzzin or Rielly next year. Dunn will be in the same position as Dermott


Yeah that's true.

tbh if it was possible I would trade Rielly for Dunn+ and sign Dunn to a a 5-6 year deal.
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29 jan à 18 h 38
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Quoting: Isles777
he would probably be the leafs best defenseman by next season


mmm, that's a bit much, imo. I appreciate the talent that this kid has, but he's never had to play in an unsheltered role, and as much as people like to rag on the Leafs D, Rielly, Muzzin, and Brodie are all very good quality Dmen.
29 jan à 18 h 38
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Quoting: Isles777
Yeah that's true.

tbh if it was possible I would trade Rielly for Dunn+ and sign Dunn to a a 5-6 year deal.


Now you are talking. I’m sure my fellow Leaf fans will not support that but it’s inevitable that Rielly gets moved. Mainly because of the flat cap. Something has to give to keep this team competitive and he will command 7-8 mil on he’s next deal
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29 jan à 18 h 41
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Quoting: Isles777
I think you guys are underrating Dunn - he's only 24, already elite and still getting better. Muzzin and rielly are the only two D that are better than him right now. I doubt a 33 YO muzzin is going to better than dunn next season.


How is he elite? What a joke
29 jan à 18 h 44
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Isles7
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
mmm, that's a bit much, imo. I appreciate the talent that this kid has, but he's never had to play in an unsheltered role, and as much as people like to rag on the Leafs D, Rielly, Muzzin, and Brodie are all very good quality Dmen.


The sheltered role doesn't mean much because his quality of teammates is very low. Dunn's role is harder than if he was facing top competition with more skilled teammates.

Muzzin and Rielly are still better than Dunn, but by next season in an increased role Dunn will likely be a top 20 D man.
29 jan à 18 h 50
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
How is he elite? What a joke



 
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