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Dunn trade to every team

Créé par: Blues4TheCup
Équipe: 2020-21 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 26 janv. 2021
Publié: 27 janv. 2021
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Keep in mind the picks have different values depending on what team it is.

Obviously not al the values are equal but that is the rough idea of what I believe Dunn is worth. A B prospect and a 1st or a Good prospect and a 2nd.

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                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 10 h 45
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                                                              I heff to be mad...
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                                                              That's a LOT of overrating
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                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 10 h 47
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                                                              Considering the initial ask is a first and we know how negotiations work I’d say overpay (Edmonton seems way off). Seems like a lot for a sheltered third pairing D.
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                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 10 h 49
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                                                              Every team says no.

                                                              Dunn won't touch a 1st or a top prospect.

                                                              For a guy that's struggled a lot this season so far and someone that would be exposed to Seattle anyways, you'd be lucky to get a guy around a similar age and needs a change of scenery too.
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                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 10 h 52
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                                                              Taylor Raddysh and a 5
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                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 0
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                                                              Quoting: Bolts20Cup
                                                              Taylor Raddysh and a 5


                                                              Dumb move for Tampa. You're basically giving St. Louis a good prospect and a pick for free. Tampa would lose Dunn in the expansion draft for nothing.
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                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 2
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                                                              Quoting: Ryminister_27
                                                              Dumb move for Tampa. You're basically giving St. Louis a good prospect and a pick for free. Tampa would lose Dunn in the expansion draft for nothing.

                                                              Thinking about it you are correct unless a injury need arises
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                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 3
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                                                              Quoting: Ryminister_27
                                                              Dumb move for Tampa. You're basically giving St. Louis a good prospect and a pick for free. Tampa would lose Dunn in the expansion draft for nothing.


                                                              I dont think Raddysh is considered a good prospect anymore
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                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 4
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                                                              Quoting: Shibbal18
                                                              I dont think Raddysh is considered a good prospect anymore


                                                              B prospect
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                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 4
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                                                              Quoting: Bolts20Cup
                                                              Thinking about it you are correct unless a injury need arises


                                                              Dunn really has no value right now.

                                                              He's been playing sheltered minutes and proved that once he doesn't play with guys like Parayko or Pietrangelo that he's not a top 4 guy. He's gonna be exposed to Seattle on St. Louis as it is, so the Blues are trying to get ahead of the game and get decent value for him. He just doesn't have it though
                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 5
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                                                              Quoting: Ryminister_27
                                                              Every team says no.

                                                              Dunn won't touch a 1st or a top prospect.

                                                              For a guy that's struggled a lot this season so far and someone that would be exposed to Seattle anyways, you'd be lucky to get a guy around a similar age and needs a change of scenery too.


                                                              If Blake Coleman get get a 1st and a good prospect so can Dunn. He is perceived negatively based on a few games but is still a very serviceable 2nd pairing defensemna on most teams. This would be the kind of return they are looking for. Otherwise they wouldn't trade him
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                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 6
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                                                              Quoting: Shibbal18
                                                              I dont think Raddysh is considered a good prospect anymore


                                                              Yea he is. Good power driving forward that can put up points. He'll slot in on a third line minimum, likely a 2nd line. Don't be fooled by the lack of NHL games, Tampa is just too stacked to give him ice time right now
                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 7
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                                                              Quoting: Blues4TheCup
                                                              If Blake Coleman get get a 1st and a good prospect so can Dunn. He is perceived negatively based on a few games but is still a very serviceable 2nd pairing defensemna on most teams. This would be the kind of return they are looking for. Otherwise they wouldn't trade him


                                                              He wouldnt get Jokiharju and a 3rd, Sabres pass
                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 7
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                                                              Quoting: Ryminister_27
                                                              Dunn really has no value right now.

                                                              He's been playing sheltered minutes and proved that once he doesn't play with guys like Parayko or Pietrangelo that he's not a top 4 guy. He's gonna be exposed to Seattle on St. Louis as it is, so the Blues are trying to get ahead of the game and get decent value for him. He just doesn't have it though


                                                              He will not be exposed in Seattle. if it came down to it, they would protect him over faulk. They aren't trading him for scraps
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                                                              I haven't paid much attention but is Dunn actually playing really bad? His stats don't even look that bad. The pair of Faulk-Dunn has a xGF% of 66.7 which is better then Krug - Parayko. I mean if the leafs didn't have a ton of defenseman, I would take a chance on him
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                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 8
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                                                              Quoting: Ryminister_27
                                                              Yea he is. Good power driving forward that can put up points. He'll slot in on a third line minimum, likely a 2nd line. Don't be fooled by the lack of NHL games, Tampa is just too stacked to give him ice time right now


                                                              he didnt even make the taxi squad at 22, nor is he on the roster for a team looking for cap relief. They went out of their way to trade for Coleman who is the same player. All of his numbers were down last year as well
                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 9
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                                                              Quoting: BStinson
                                                              Considering the initial ask is a first and we know how negotiations work I’d say overpay (Edmonton seems way off). Seems like a lot for a sheltered third pairing D.


                                                              talk about recency bias. Dunn is a very good young defenseman who has not been given the opportunity. Especially if there is a bidding war, I would not be surprised at all if this was the type of return they got.
                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 10
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                                                              Quoting: Blues4TheCup
                                                              If Blake Coleman get get a 1st and a good prospect so can Dunn. He is perceived negatively based on a few games but is still a very serviceable 2nd pairing defensemna on most teams. This would be the kind of return they are looking for. Otherwise they wouldn't trade him


                                                              False.

                                                              You're objectively missing out in key factors:

                                                              Coleman is a far more established player.

                                                              Dunn has been sheltered this year on the 3rd pairing and looked terrible. The only thing he's proved is that when he doesn't play with Parayko or Pietrangelo then he's nothing more than a #5 guy.

                                                              Coleman was on a what was considered great contract. Multiple years left and well below market value - Dunn is essentially overpaid right now.

                                                              As I said before, Dunn will be left exposed to Seattle if he's not moved and likely lost for free. Teams aren't gonna pay a premium for a guy that St. Louis has to move anyways.


                                                              If you're thinking they will get a second pairing d-man or top pick/prospect for him, you need to look deeper into things. No ones gonna pay that for him.
                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 12
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                                                              Quoting: Ryminister_27
                                                              Every team says no.

                                                              Dunn won't touch a 1st or a top prospect.

                                                              For a guy that's struggled a lot this season so far and someone that would be exposed to Seattle anyways, you'd be lucky to get a guy around a similar age and needs a change of scenery too.

                                                              The Blues hater right on time what’s next Parayko and 12 first round picks for Nylander again?
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                                                              Quoting: Blues4TheCup
                                                              He will not be exposed in Seattle. if it came down to it, they would protect him over faulk. They aren't trading him for scraps


                                                              Faulk has played well this season, Dunn hasn't. Dunn has proven he needs a partner to carry him. St. Louis has other left handed d-man to replace Dunn, they don't have as quality right handed to replace Faulk. It's incredibly dumb to protect Dunn over Faulk.

                                                              Take off your bias glasses and see the situation how it is and not how you want it to be.
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                                                              Quoting: Blues4TheCup
                                                              If Blake Coleman get get a 1st and a good prospect so can Dunn. He is perceived negatively based on a few games but is still a very serviceable 2nd pairing defensemna on most teams. This would be the kind of return they are looking for. Otherwise they wouldn't trade him


                                                              Quoting: Blues4TheCup
                                                              If Blake Coleman get get a 1st and a good prospect so can Dunn. He is perceived negatively based on a few games but is still a very serviceable 2nd pairing defensemna on most teams. This would be the kind of return they are looking for. Otherwise they wouldn't trade him

                                                              Julian Breasbois gave the first up because Coleman had this year as well as the remainder of last year on the contract we have been done contract ends at the end of this year so unless you could extend him a year before you trade him that’s not gonna happen and I’m sorry Blake Coleman scored 20 goals for New Jersey.
                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 15
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                                                              Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
                                                              The Blues hater right on time what’s next Parayko and 12 first round picks for Nylander again?


                                                              I'm sorry, was anything I said not true?

                                                              1. Dunn has struggled this season.
                                                              2. He'll be left exposed and taken for free if St. Louis doesn't move him.

                                                              Both of those FACTS lower his value significantly. Sorry if that hurts your feelings. But that's not hating on a team at all, it's literally just facts.

                                                              So either comment on the actual thread, or don't respond to my comments at all. Get lost.
                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 15
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                                                              Quoting: Blues4TheCup
                                                              If Blake Coleman get get a 1st and a good prospect so can Dunn. He is perceived negatively based on a few games but is still a very serviceable 2nd pairing defensemna on most teams. This would be the kind of return they are looking for. Otherwise they wouldn't trade him


                                                              When the ask is reportedly a 1st, and the fans turn around and think it's a first and a top prospect, it's a pretty solid sign that he's being overrated.
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                                                              Quoting: Ryminister_27
                                                              Faulk has played well this season, Dunn hasn't. Dunn has proven he needs a partner to carry him. St. Louis has other left handed d-man to replace Dunn, they don't have as quality right handed to replace Faulk. It's incredibly dumb to protect Dunn over Faulk.

                                                              Take off your bias glasses and see the situation how it is and not how you want it to be.


                                                              No what he has proved was that he was a stud before the Covid shutdown and now that he was out of it and only got 2 weeks to get ready and didn’t even get that because he was on leave. So he didn’t even get a full 2 weeks of practice what that proves was he wasn’t ready for the season start up. He has been one of the best D-man on the team before the COVID shutdown and it’s going to take him sometimes. Berube did the same thing with Thomas a night in the press box does some wonders. I don’t think he’s getting traded until at least TDL. Because there is no reason we would trade him for undervalue and he become a dynamic player again when he’s just in a funk because of COVID.
                                                              27 janv. 2021 à 11 h 17
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                                                              Quoting: Ryminister_27
                                                              False.

                                                              You're objectively missing out in key factors:

                                                              Coleman is a far more established player.

                                                              Dunn has been sheltered this year on the 3rd pairing and looked terrible. The only thing he's proved is that when he doesn't play with Parayko or Pietrangelo then he's nothing more than a #5 guy.

                                                              Coleman was on a what was considered great contract. Multiple years left and well below market value - Dunn is essentially overpaid right now.

                                                              As I said before, Dunn will be left exposed to Seattle if he's not moved and likely lost for free. Teams aren't gonna pay a premium for a guy that St. Louis has to move anyways.


                                                              If you're thinking they will get a second pairing d-man or top pick/prospect for him, you need to look deeper into things. No ones gonna pay that for him.


                                                              bro unless you are someone who watches the blues every night you have no idea what you are talking about. Dunn is talented enough to be in the top 4, but the blues have a system where they spread out the talent on their D pairs. They had faulk and dunn on the 3rd pair most of last year because petro gunny and parayko Bouw always played well together. Him being on the 3rd pair doesn't mean anything. His analytics are really good and the market is always high on young defenseman. And he will absolutely be protected in Seattle if they decide to keep him. Faulk will be exposed as Seattle won't be touching that contract. and to use the word "terrible". he had a bad couple games that doesn't mean **** if you look at his career as a whole
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                                                              Quoting: Bolts20Cup
                                                              Julian Breasbois gave the first up because Coleman had this year as well as the remainder of last year on the contract we have been done contract ends at the end of this year so unless you could extend him a year before you trade him that’s not gonna happen and I’m sorry Blake Coleman scored 20 goals for New Jersey.


                                                              Dunn is a RFA so that comment is nullified.
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