Who’s better right now Graves or Byram

I don't think it is enough on either trade.

Pre-pandemic I think Compher had decent value, but with a flat cap, I'm not sure teams would be willing to even pay to take him.

The first-rounder is a good asset, but given that it is likely to be very late and in a weak draft, I'm not sure it's enough.

Timmons and Kaut are both decent prospects, but half the teams in the league probably wouldn't have any space for them.

Byram. Tonight he led the team in TOI, admittedly due to getting some extra ice at the end of a blowout, but he was also tied in TOI with Makar and Girard in the 1st period when the score was still tied.

Funnily enough the game this evening against San Jose was his worst so far, even though he wasn't at all what you'd call bad.

Bednar's plan for the D pairs is:

Toews --- Makar
Byram --- Girard
Graves --- Johnson

Fair point on Compher. Not the best contract in a flat cap, but there will surely be some team out there willing to take him on, especially once talent gets a bit more diluted with Seattle joining.

Why on earth wouldn't teams have space for Timmins or Kaut? They're still on their ELC's, so of course teams would take them on.

I think the ARZ trade is fair.

I don't really understand the Jackets trade. I think its a pretty big overpay. But its also not the right value and I don't think CBJ will engage in trade talks for Jenner.

I think you guys need a center upgrade too - I'm not convinced that Kadri - Compher is a cup winning middle six center core. I'd be after a guy like Tierney on the low end, or Rakell (ya hes a wing but can play center) on the high end.

I mean roster space. Like, a lot of GMs would agree that Timmons and Kaut are good prospects, but they themselves have 3-5 guys of the same caliber fighting for spots. Is Timmons really and upgrade over Capobianco, Ness, or Gross? Is Kaut really an upgrade over Bemstrom or Sherwood?

Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated.

The CBJ trade is mostly about fixing the issues at 3C, which you mentioned yourself is a problem. The natural piece to move for help at 3C is a Dman - either Graves or Timmins. Seeing as Columbus would have to leave Graves exposed in the expansion draft (Jones-Werenski-Gavrikov would be the 3 protected), that makes Timmins the only viable option to appease CBJ, since he is exempt from the ExD.

Timmins for Jenner feels like an overpay though obviously. So I looked further, and figured that Savard is worth a late 1st or early 2nd as a rental, and it would make sense for Colorado to replace Timmins on the roster too. Adding Compher then is just about sending a contract the other way that would be surprlus with the addition of Jenner.

Overall in that trade CBJ would get younger, whilst Avs would get better, more experienced, and acquire to players who fit the roles we need better (i.e. Jenner is a better 3C than Compher, and Savard is a better PKer than Timmins right now, albeit only as a rental).

I'm sure most GM's would gladly waive or taxi squad some AHL scrub they have as a depth player to make room for high end prospects.

Honestly I want the Sharks to try and compete this year but if our fate was playing Colorado with Kuemper in the playoffs I think I’d rather just forfeit and call it a day. That **** is scary a scary prospect.

I don’t think that’s nearly enough to get Kuemper alone though. It would have to be more quality > quantity and that’s if we’re excluding Crouse. No reason for Arizona to trade one of the best goalies in the league for a .5 PPG AHL player and a low first rounder in a very weak draft.

Yeah I think you're probably right. Arizona will probably want to keep Kuemper until deadline next season, he's basically the only reason why they manage to keep games close.

Kaut's AHL numbers are a bit misleading btw. Not just saying that as a biased Avs fan either. The way he plays just isn't conducive to secondary points, so the vast majority of his points are primary points, even when he played in Sweden recently he got a decent amount of points, and all of them were primary. That's a big difference compared to guys who pick up a bunch of secondary assists to boost stats.

That said, you're probably right nonetheless, that it wouldn't be enough for Kuemper, as Arizona would probably want an overpayment for him. That's why i suggested in the description above that Avs might need to add something to the Arizona trade.

Yeah agreed. Just thought I would comment on the trade. You have a good point with Kaut too which is definitely valid. I can’t say in an expert on him. He may be a solid prospect which is totally fine but on the stat sheet in most other respects he’s just not a prospect like Newhook or Bryam or Barron even.

Kaut is most definitely not in the same tier as Byram or Newhook, not even close. But he's still a recent 16th overall pick with 3 years left on an ELC which is extremely valuable, especially on a contender.

Fwiw, in a recent poll on the Hfboards Avs page Kaut was voted as the 3rd highest prospect, ahead of Timmins at 4 and Barron at 5. Just as a reference to know how Avs fans in general rate these prospects. Timmins' ranking right now would probably be just ahead of Kaut though, as there was some doubt about his injury status when the poll was done a few couple of months ago, whereas now he's played a few NHL games.

i dont like this giving up a first rounder pick and a first round prospect for a goalie imo is very overrated

You're also getting a very physical winger in Crouse in this trade. Some additional size in our bottom 6 would be really beneficial, especially with how soft and anonymous our current 3rd line is.

I guess I wouldn't consider Kaut or Timmons high-end prospects. On most teams, I think they'd be around the 4-7 mark in terms of rankings (Timmons probably even lower). Neither player looks to be a top-half player. Many teams would struggle to find playing time for those players, just like Colorado.