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Bringing In Marners Friend

Date de création initiale: jan 10, 2021
Publié: 25 jan à 21 h 12
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
I keep hearing that the Leafs want to trade for a forward and some names include Alex Iafallo, Brendan Lemieux and Taylor Hall. A guy who came across my mind is Dylan Strome, who has surprisingly become a really good play driver at even strength plus is a local kid who's close to Mitch Marner.

Now the purpose of this move would to put the super line back together. They were unstoppable during the small sample size that they played last season, I'd imagine they can become the best line in hockey if they played full time.

I also hope reuniting Marner and Strome in a more sheltered role would help rejuvenate Marner's season. So far he's really struggled to get to his game. Just floating around in the defensive zone and not really getting involved when his team has the puck. It honestly seems like he is not able to handle the pressure of playing in Toronto.
Transactions
TOR
  1. Strome, Dylan (1 000 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Abruzzese, Nick [Liste de réserve]
  2. 2021 1e round pick (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $81 224 741 $0 $0 $275 259 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
CHI
Strome, Dylan
2 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Vesey, Jimmy
900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Thornton, Joe
700 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
874 125 $
DG
RFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
1 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
1 500 000 $ (425 000 $)
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $ (0 $)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
821 667 $ (0 $)
AG
RFA - 3
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $ (0 $)
DG
RFA - 2
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $ (0 $)
DG
UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Nylander, W.
Tavares, J.
Thornton, J.
Rielly, M.
Matthews, A.
Avantage numérique 2
Spezza, J.
Strome, D.
Simmonds, W.
Marner, M.
Bogosian, Z.
Infériorité numérique 1
Kerfoot, A.
Engvall, P.
Muzzin, J.
Brodie, T.
Infériorité numérique 2
Mikheyev, I.
Hyman, Z.
Dermott, T.
Holl, J.

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25 jan à 21 h 12
#1
Big Sheary Fan
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Thoughts on my armchair team?
25 jan à 21 h 14
#2
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I'd move Tavares to the wing long before I do Matthews.
25 jan à 21 h 21
#3
RangerWall92
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Rejuvenate Marner's season? Isn't he one of the top guys in scoring?
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25 jan à 21 h 28
#4
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Marner is tied for the league lead in scoring, what is there to rejuvenate?
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25 jan à 21 h 33
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LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Kinda a ridiculous scenario that Marner is playing so bad, that the Leafs need Strome. Or the Marner can't handle the pressure in Toronto, so acquiring Strome eases the pressure on Marner. C'mon.
IMO the Leafs forwards are good enough, and while the trade value proposed might be fair, the Leafs. shouldn't be giving up futures for a marginal upgrade.
The Leafs are 5 and 2, what's the panic?
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25 jan à 21 h 36
#6
exo2769
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Quoting: palhal
Kinda a ridiculous scenario that Marner is playing so bad, that the Leafs need Strome. Or the Marner can't handle the pressure in Toronto, so acquiring Strome eases the pressure on Marner. C'mon.
IMO the Leafs forwards are good enough, and while the trade value proposed might be fair, the Leafs. shouldn't be giving up futures for a marginal upgrade.
The Leafs are 5 and 2, what's the panic?


Isnt Marner also on the #1PK? Top scorer in the league and plays defense. Sounds good to me. Am I missing something?
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25 jan à 21 h 40
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I agree with all the above.

Dear Lord. Injuries happen. And right now, these are injuries that the depth of rhis team should be able to handle.

Sooner be giving these kids a cup of coffee to gauge where they are at than hitting a panic button because Matthews got a splinter.
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25 jan à 21 h 46
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Quoting: exo2769
Isnt Marner also on the #1PK? Top scorer in the league and plays defense. Sounds good to me. Am I missing something?


I don't think Marner has looked that great, despite his stats. But geez, he's playing well enough in different situations as you suggest. Leafs forwards, though not scoring at high rate seem to well balanced this year. Defensive play seems better, thanks greatly not having Barrie and Ceci on the team year. Kerfoot has looked good as the 3C, Engvall is his two games as 4C. looked good. I'll keep this team and see how it jells. I still think the Leafs have the best shot to win the Canadian division.
Leafs are 12th GAA and 13th in GF. Not overwhelming but they have been grinding out wins.
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25 jan à 21 h 52
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Quoting: exo2769
Isnt Marner also on the #1PK? Top scorer in the league and plays defense. Sounds good to me. Am I missing something?


LOL, I don't understand why everyone thinks he's doing bad either.
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25 jan à 21 h 54
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Now that Marner is shooting 100% more times, I hope Keefe tells him to shoot 75% less which is a net increase of 25% which would be perfect. Still give the best chances to Matthews to bury but shoot enough to keep anyone from cheating.
25 jan à 21 h 58
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Is this that Mitch Marner guy with a new username? What was it, MitchMarnerElite?
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25 jan à 22 h 30
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People are kinda being harsh here, I don’t mind this. I definitely don’t think we need a centre, Strome is a good enough player to look at but I’d prob play him on the wing. I don’t think Chicago takes this tho, and I don’t know if I’d pay any more. Just get the best guy available at the best price, no need to look at making marner happier. He’s got plenty around him
25 jan à 23 h 55
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As a hawks fan I would rather keep strome. With toews future being so uncertain he’s become a big piece of this teams future
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26 jan à 0 h 06
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This is a troll post, right? Like, the whole idea of bringing in Strome to help Marner when he's traditionally on the ice with one of Matthews or Tavares is hilarious. Let alone the idea that his season needs rejuvenating when he's tied for points with McDavid. Good one lol.

I don't mind the idea of bringing in Strome but I don't think Chicago would go for it, and your reasoning is hilarious.
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26 jan à 0 h 13
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Quoting: palhal
IMO the Leafs forwards are good enough, and while the trade value proposed might be fair, the Leafs. shouldn't be giving up futures for a marginal upgrade.


While Nick is a somewhat interesting prospect, that late 1st in this year's draft is not all that valuable as this draft is not deep and even then, if it was a late 1st is a giant bag of magic seeds that likely won't come close to Dylan Strome. This trade is not balanced as such.

Strome is producing at slightly over .76ppg since joining the Hawks and that includes about 20 games on the Hawks as a winger which was a horrible experiment and his numbers dropped off big.

Kerfoot, while defensively certainly better, is a HUGE dropoff in offensive production to .43ppg since joining the Leafs. I'll take Strome 101% of the time over Kerfoot and it's not close either.
26 jan à 0 h 13
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Quoting: DartGuy86
This is a troll post, right? Like, the whole idea of bringing in Strome to help Marner when he's traditionally on the ice with one of Matthews or Tavares is hilarious. Let alone the idea that his season needs rejuvenating when he's tied for points with McDavid. Good one lol.

I don't mind the idea of bringing in Strome but I don't think Chicago would go for it, and your reasoning is hilarious.


Well said
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26 jan à 9 h 35
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I assume your next ACGM will be the oilers trading for Brandon Sutter to "upgrade" their second line C.
26 jan à 9 h 59
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Quoting: leafs101
Is this that Mitch Marner guy with a new username? What was it, MitchMarnerElite?


Haha it probably actually is.
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26 jan à 10 h 12
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Haha it probably actually is.


I only say that because he loved Conor Sheary (username) and always undervalued Marner. Checks off all the boxes.
26 jan à 11 h 57
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Quoting: leafs101
I only say that because he loved Conor Sheary (username) and always undervalued Marner. Checks off all the boxes.


That's what I was thinking too.
28 jan à 15 h 44
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Quoting: Byrr
I'd move Tavares to the wing long before I do Matthews.


That's fair.
28 jan à 15 h 46
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Quoting: RangerWall92
Rejuvenate Marner's season? Isn't he one of the top guys in scoring?


Quoting: TheresAlwaysNextYear
Marner is tied for the league lead in scoring, what is there to rejuvenate?


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His play driving analytics have been horrible to start the year. He is putting up a lot of points, but the stats suggest he's been riding on Matthews and Thornton's coattails.
28 jan à 15 h 51
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Quoting: palhal
Kinda a ridiculous scenario that Marner is playing so bad, that the Leafs need Strome. Or the Marner can't handle the pressure in Toronto, so acquiring Strome eases the pressure on Marner. C'mon.
IMO the Leafs forwards are good enough, and while the trade value proposed might be fair, the Leafs. shouldn't be giving up futures for a marginal upgrade.
The Leafs are 5 and 2, what's the panic?


Quoting: Hidalgo
People are kinda being harsh here, I don’t mind this. I definitely don’t think we need a centre, Strome is a good enough player to look at but I’d prob play him on the wing. I don’t think Chicago takes this tho, and I don’t know if I’d pay any more. Just get the best guy available at the best price, no need to look at making marner happier. He’s got plenty around him


Quoting: DartGuy86
This is a troll post, right? Like, the whole idea of bringing in Strome to help Marner when he's traditionally on the ice with one of Matthews or Tavares is hilarious. Let alone the idea that his season needs rejuvenating when he's tied for points with McDavid. Good one lol.

I don't mind the idea of bringing in Strome but I don't think Chicago would go for it, and your reasoning is hilarious.


I know Marner's current centers are a lot better than Strome but I feel he is struggling to handle the tough defensive matchups. Bringing in Strome would allow them to roll the super line which will face the opposition's top players while Marner's line gets easier competition so he will hopefully drive play better.
28 jan à 15 h 54
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Quoting: exo2769
Isnt Marner also on the #1PK? Top scorer in the league and plays defense. Sounds good to me. Am I missing something?


Yeah Marner's done some good work on the PK but his even strength defence has been bad. Just floats around in his own end similarly to Kessel and watches the play happen. Luckily the other 4 guys on the ice (Matthews, Hyman, Muzzin and Holl) are very strong in their own end but they are still getting under siege too often lately.
28 jan à 15 h 54
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Quoting: ChiHawk
While Nick is a somewhat interesting prospect, that late 1st in this year's draft is not all that valuable as this draft is not deep and even then, if it was a late 1st is a giant bag of magic seeds that likely won't come close to Dylan Strome. This trade is not balanced as such.

Strome is producing at slightly over .76ppg since joining the Hawks and that includes about 20 games on the Hawks as a winger which was a horrible experiment and his numbers dropped off big.

Kerfoot, while defensively certainly better, is a HUGE dropoff in offensive production to .43ppg since joining the Leafs. I'll take Strome 101% of the time over Kerfoot and it's not close either.


Fair enough. I heard the asking price for Strome was a 1st so that's what I offered.
 
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