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Créé par: jnowariak
Équipe: 2020-21 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 24 janv. 2021
Publié: 24 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Brown can apparently run a PP and he’s a C. It should be self explanatory. I used Menell as the cost since he’s got real value and he’s boxed out if we hold onto Dumba. Maybe it’s more of a deadline move since it makes more sense if Bonino/Johansson are gone. This seems like a good risk to take.
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24 janv. 2021 à 14 h 47
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Quoting: Gofnut999
That would be out of options. Minny was the only team that could sign him and things went wrong there leaving Europe as his only choice. 🤷🏻‍♂️


He's an RFA. He has limited options. He likely saw himself as a NHL option, but Minnesota have veteran guys that they see fit there more and wanted to give him an AHL spot. So if he signs an offersheet with someone else that will give him a NHL role, Minnesota matches it and sticks him the AHL. That says nothing about his ability.

So he signed in the KHL since the AHL hasn't started and he's been killing it. Props to the guy. He's shown he definitely should be given the chance at the NHL level based on how's he performed over multiple years.
24 janv. 2021 à 14 h 54
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He's an RFA. He has limited options. He likely saw himself as a NHL option, but Minnesota have veteran guys that they see fit there more and wanted to give him an AHL spot. So if he signs an offersheet with someone else that will give him a NHL role, Minnesota matches it and sticks him the AHL. That says nothing about his ability.

So he signed in the KHL since the AHL hasn't started and he's been killing it. Props to the guy. He's shown he definitely should be given the chance at the NHL level based on how's he performed over multiple years.



Nobody is signing a fringe player to an offer sheet. Any team could have signed him and Minny would have likely relinquished his rights and let him go. Nobody did. He is what he is. Marginal NHLer. If given a shot he would do ok, that can be said about guys in the ECHL as well. It’s all about opportunity. Right place at right time to catch a break. His rights have little to no trade value however.
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24 janv. 2021 à 15 h 0
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Nobody is signing a fringe player to an offer sheet. Any team could have signed him and Minny would have likely relinquished his rights and let him go. Nobody did. He is what he is. Marginal NHLer. If given a shot he would do ok, that can be said about guys in the ECHL as well. It’s all about opportunity. Right place at right time to catch a break. His rights have little to no trade value however.


Minnesota holds his rights. And any team that signs him for the low cap hit that he would have, know that it would be matched and Minnesota wouldn't give him away for free. That's just poor asset management. But again, that says nothing about his skill level. He's at least a bottom pairing NHL calibre d-man right now, 'Minnesota just has too much depth and veterans at the position already. But that doesn't mean he's not a NHL calibre d-man.
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24 janv. 2021 à 15 h 6
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That would be the equivalent to OTT offering Ollie Alsing for Matthew Boldy. Do the math.


Its really not
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24 janv. 2021 à 15 h 8
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Minnesota holds his rights. And any team that signs him for the low cap hit that he would have, know that it would be matched and Minnesota wouldn't give him away for free. That's just poor asset management. But again, that says nothing about his skill level. He's at least a bottom pairing NHL calibre d-man right now, 'Minnesota just has too much depth and veterans at the position already. But that doesn't mean he's not a NHL calibre d-man.


Teams let RFAs go that are no longer in their plans all the time. Lol.
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24 janv. 2021 à 15 h 17
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Teams let RFAs go that are no longer in their plans all the time. Lol.


Again, Minnesota have veterans. There's nothing saying that they don't see Menell in their future plans after they're let go. And letting guys walk for free is not smart asset management.

Watch him play, as I do. You'll see he's already a NHL calibre d-man. He skates like one. Moves the puck like one. Can defend on average like one. Can run a PP unit like one. But Minnesota doesn't have the opportunity for him. They have already established guys that do that. That's not his fault. He's proven in every league so far that he's been elite in those leagues, there's nothing saying he can't make the jump to the NHL. Just your opinion doesn't justify that. You've probably never watched him or heard of him till now based on the way you've talked about him. Well, for people that work in the industry like I do, we can see when players are ready for at least some NHL minutes, and Menell is ready for at least bottom pair minutes. Minnesota just had the luxury of depth at the position.
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24 janv. 2021 à 15 h 28
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Again, Minnesota have veterans. There's nothing saying that they don't see Menell in their future plans after they're let go. And letting guys walk for free is not smart asset management.

Watch him play, as I do. You'll see he's already a NHL calibre d-man. He skates like one. Moves the puck like one. Can defend on average like one. Can run a PP unit like one. But Minnesota doesn't have the opportunity for him. They have already established guys that do that. That's not his fault. He's proven in every league so far that he's been elite in those leagues, there's nothing saying he can't make the jump to the NHL. Just your opinion doesn't justify that. You've probably never watched him or heard of him till now based on the way you've talked about him. Well, for people that work in the industry like I do, we can see when players are ready for at least some NHL minutes, and Menell is ready for at least bottom pair minutes. Minnesota just had the luxury of depth at the position.


I have watched him plenty, thanks. Again he is what he is, undersized puck mover with serious defensive deficiencies. Ceiling is 3rd pair PP specialist, that you have to hide defensively.

And again. Teams let RFAs go every year.

While i have watched him play i have not followed they whys as to how he ended up in KHL, sounds like it was his decision.
24 janv. 2021 à 15 h 34
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I have watched him plenty, thanks. Again he is what he is, undersized puck mover with serious defensive deficiencies. Ceiling is 3rd pair PP specialist, that you have to hide defensively.

And again. Teams let RFAs go every year.

While i have watched him play i have not followed they whys as to how he ended up in KHL, sounds like it was his decision.


Out of curiosity, where did you watch him play?
24 janv. 2021 à 15 h 37
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Out of curiosity, where did you watch him play?


Jrs and AHL

I watch way to much hockey. 🤷🏻‍♂️
24 janv. 2021 à 15 h 40
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Jrs and AHL

I watch way to much hockey. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Sure
24 janv. 2021 à 15 h 42
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Sure


Never answered. Did you want Achan for Boldy?
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Never answered. Did you want Achan for Boldy?


Throw in a 2nd and you’ve got a deal.
24 janv. 2021 à 15 h 43
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Throw in a 2nd and you’ve got a deal.


Call Sweeney. Make it happen. Lol. Actually call Guerin make it happen, won’t have to talk DS into it, he’ll jump on it.
25 janv. 2021 à 8 h 57
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Keep peddling your rhetoric, he has zero value in the NHL right now, zero, so no, you're not getting Logan Brown for him. If you respond again, I'll move you to ignore, because your opinion would be worthless if you keep defending this, worthless, just like Menell.


Move me to ignore please, you have nothing to offer here other than to be the exact opposite of what your username implies...
25 janv. 2021 à 11 h 22
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Move me to ignore please, you have nothing to offer here other than to be the exact opposite of what your username implies...


After reading some of the comments in your profile, sounds like a good idea to me, Thanks.
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