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Rakell and Bonino

Créé par: Richard88
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 23 janv. 2021
Publié: 23 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Rakell, Rickard
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
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  2. Timmins, Conor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (COL)
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  1. Jost, Tyson
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (COL)
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    23 janv. 2021 à 21 h 13
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    No disrespect, but Minnesota isn't trading Bonino right now. Even if Minnesota is out of it, as I & others already discussed with you numerous times this week, Minnesota would rather trade Bonino for 2nd round pick & top prospect, or 1st round pick.

    Minnesota doesn't want Tyson jost who they have to expose like I & others wrote to you this week. Feels like this is the 10th time seeing this post by you this week @Richard88
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    23 janv. 2021 à 22 h 14
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    Quoting: Wildnochance
    No disrespect, but Minnesota isn't trading Bonino right now. Even if Minnesota is out of it, as I & others already discussed with you numerous times this week, Minnesota would rather trade Bonino for 2nd round pick & top prospect, or 1st round pick.

    Minnesota doesn't want Tyson jost who they have to expose like I & others wrote to you this week. Feels like this is the 10th time seeing this post by you this week @Richard88


    Even if they did trade for Bonino dropping him on the 4th line is a total waste.
    23 janv. 2021 à 23 h 5
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    Quoting: Wildnochance
    No disrespect, but Minnesota isn't trading Bonino right now. Even if Minnesota is out of it, as I & others already discussed with you numerous times this week, Minnesota would rather trade Bonino for 2nd round pick & top prospect, or 1st round pick.

    Minnesota doesn't want Tyson jost who they have to expose like I & others wrote to you this week. Feels like this is the 10th time seeing this post by you this week @Richard88


    It's just a placeholder in my trades, relax
    23 janv. 2021 à 23 h 5
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    Even if they did trade for Bonino dropping him on the 4th line is a total waste.


    He'd be the 3C most likely. I wouldn't count on Newhook being ready for 3C duty this season. Makar was an exception.
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    23 janv. 2021 à 23 h 35
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    He'd be the 3C most likely. I wouldn't count on Newhook being ready for 3C duty this season. Makar was an exception.

    I think Bonino and Rackell are redundant to a point. Compher has been immensely disappointing as has the entire bottom 6 but already being short the next 2 yrs 2nds I wouldn’t be in a rush to trade any 1st rd picks. The one thing that is for certain on CF is fans overvalue players they like.
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    23 janv. 2021 à 23 h 45
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    I think Bonino and Rackell are redundant to a point. Compher has been immensely disappointing as has the entire bottom 6 but already being short the next 2 yrs 2nds I wouldn’t be in a rush to trade any 1st rd picks. The one thing that is for certain on CF is fans overvalue players they like.


    I disagree. Bonino would make a big difference to our middle 6. Right now Bellemare is effectively our 3C as Compher's line gets less ice time, and even got benched in the last 10 minutes two games ago.

    The 4th line has been our 2nd best line at 5v5 in terms of xG/60. Unfortunately they've been unable to finish chances though, but they're at least a net positive in terms of possession which is what you want from your 4th line.

    The issue is the 2nd line, with Saad a -7 and Kadri a -6 through 5 games; along with the 3rd line which is anonymous. We have 0 goals at 5v5 from the bottom 3 lines through 5 games (Donskoi's goal was 1 second after the PP expired, and Saad's goal was on a shift with Mackinnon).

    A lot of players are clearly in a funk to start the season, but some of these issues go back to last season. We really need a 3C in a big way.

    That said, going back to talking trades, I wouldn't trade a 1st for Bonino. Probably the only 3C I would trade a 1st for would be Danault, but the way Montreal are playing he won't be available until he's an UFA, and then we'll get priced out as he wants 2C money.

    We are now in our cup window though, and with a huge pile of futures at our disposal it's time to start getting a bit more aggressive than simply sticking to moves like a 4th for Namestnikov, or a 3rd for Brassard.
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    24 janv. 2021 à 12 h 52
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    I disagree. Bonino would make a big difference to our middle 6. Right now Bellemare is effectively our 3C as Compher's line gets less ice time, and even got benched in the last 10 minutes two games ago.

    The 4th line has been our 2nd best line at 5v5 in terms of xG/60. Unfortunately they've been unable to finish chances though, but they're at least a net positive in terms of possession which is what you want from your 4th line.

    The issue is the 2nd line, with Saad a -7 and Kadri a -6 through 5 games; along with the 3rd line which is anonymous. We have 0 goals at 5v5 from the bottom 3 lines through 5 games (Donskoi's goal was 1 second after the PP expired, and Saad's goal was on a shift with Mackinnon).

    A lot of players are clearly in a funk to start the season, but some of these issues go back to last season. We really need a 3C in a big way.

    That said, going back to talking trades, I wouldn't trade a 1st for Bonino. Probably the only 3C I would trade a 1st for would be Danault, but the way Montreal are playing he won't be available until he's an UFA, and then we'll get priced out as he wants 2C money.

    We are now in our cup window though, and with a huge pile of futures at our disposal it's time to start getting a bit more aggressive than simply sticking to moves like a 4th for Namestnikov, or a 3rd for Brassard.


    I don’t disagree with being aggressive, but if you are going to be aggressive be aggressive and use those assets to add top 6 talent. Teams that waste top resources on the bottom 6 aren’t long for the roll of contender. If you can’t ease in hone grown talent to populate your bottom 6 with inexpensive talent hopefully like Kaut, Bowers, Kovalenko, Foudy, Mutula then your spending resources to improve an area that is significantly less impactful.
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    24 janv. 2021 à 18 h 55
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    Quoting: Xqb15
    I don’t disagree with being aggressive, but if you are going to be aggressive be aggressive and use those assets to add top 6 talent. Teams that waste top resources on the bottom 6 aren’t long for the roll of contender. If you can’t ease in hone grown talent to populate your bottom 6 with inexpensive talent hopefully like Kaut, Bowers, Kovalenko, Foudy, Mutula then your spending resources to improve an area that is significantly less impactful.


    I don't disagree in principle - high picks and assets should be spent on top 6 and top 4 generally.

    That said, I can't help but recalling the impact Coleman and Goodrow had for Tampa last season. They basically created a whole new 3rd line which dominated in the playoffs.

    Sometimes a team doesn't just need more top 6 players, but role players can be just as important if not more so, and give the top 6 guys a better platform to succeed. That elite 3rd line Tampa built was good at shutting down opponents best lines, freeing up the top two lines to play against lesser competition more.

    By contrast, you wouldn't trust our 3rd line to shut down opponents' top lines, because we simply don't have a shutdown C. Compher just isn't that type of player.

    Getting this Avs team a strong 3C who you can pair with Nichuskin to just grind teams down defensively would help our top 6 indirectly, just as Tampa's 3rd line helped their top 6 get over the hump in the playoffs last year.
     
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