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Trading for the Expansion Draft

Créé par: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 23 janv. 2021
Publié: 23 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Johnson, Erik
  2. Kaut, Martin
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (COL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $79 445 554 $0 $5 000 000 $2 054 446 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 571 429 $5 571 429 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 5
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
874 125 $874 125 $
C
UFA - 1
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DD
UFA - 1
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3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 7
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3 166 667 $3 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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725 000 $725 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ (4 425 000 $$4M4 425 000 $$4M)
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
842 500 $842 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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23 janv. 2021 à 15 h 23
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this makes 0 sense
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23 janv. 2021 à 16 h 59
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Johnson > Stralman

Johnson is worth more than Stralman even though he costs half a million more

Kaut alone for Stralman would be the worst trade Joe Sakic ever made
23 janv. 2021 à 17 h 24
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swap kaut out for a pick then maybe.
24 janv. 2021 à 2 h 31
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Johnson > Stralman

Johnson is worth more than Stralman even though he costs half a million more

Kaut alone for Stralman would be the worst trade Joe Sakic ever made


Quoting: DirtyDangle
swap kaut out for a pick then maybe.


Quoting: TJTwolf
Plain awful.


Johnson has a year more on his contact and this trade would allow them to protect Toews, Graves and Girard in the expansion draft. I'm thinking long term not short term.
24 janv. 2021 à 6 h 12
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Johnson has a year more on his contact and this trade would allow them to protect Toews, Graves and Girard in the expansion draft. I'm thinking long term not short term.


Trading Kaut for Stralman even to move Johnson (assuming he waived) is just baaaaad!
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24 janv. 2021 à 10 h 2
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Johnson has a year more on his contact and this trade would allow them to protect Toews, Graves and Girard in the expansion draft. I'm thinking long term not short term.


yea that was considered. swap kaut for a pick and retain on stralman and its a deal to consider. but only if johnson doesn't waive his nmc.
24 janv. 2021 à 10 h 17
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Johnson has a year more on his contact and this trade would allow them to protect Toews, Graves and Girard in the expansion draft. I'm thinking long term not short term.


Making a trade that is hideously one-sided isn't thinking long-term or short-term; it's thinking badly.
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24 janv. 2021 à 10 h 20
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yea that was considered. swap kaut for a pick and retain on stralman and its a deal to consider. but only if johnson doesn't waive his nmc.


It's not clear to me that Johnson HAS a NMC. CapFriendly doesn't think so -- it says his NTC allows him to specify 19 teams he can be traded to.
24 janv. 2021 à 10 h 21
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
It's not clear to me that Johnson HAS a NMC. CapFriendly doesn't think so -- it says his NTC allows him to specify 19 teams he can be traded to.


he does. you can see it on his player page

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/erik-johnson
24 janv. 2021 à 10 h 31
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he does. you can see it on his player page

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/erik-johnson


His player page clearly says "Clause Details: Lists 19 teams he can be traded to." That's a NTC, not a NMC, and I don't know why CapFriendly calls it a NMC. Maybe the NMC comes in later.
24 janv. 2021 à 10 h 35
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His player page clearly says "Clause Details: Lists 19 teams he can be traded to." That's a NTC, not a NMC, and I don't know why CapFriendly calls it a NMC. Maybe the NMC comes in later.


it clearly shows he has a nmc.

2020-21 M-NTC, NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000
24 janv. 2021 à 13 h 51
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it clearly shows he has a nmc.

2020-21 M-NTC, NMC $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000


And for the third time, I quote "Clause Details: Lists 19 teams he can be traded to." That's a NTC, not a NMC, and I don't know why CapFriendly calls it a NMC. Maybe the NMC comes in later. If it was a pure NMC, there would be no need for the "M-NTC" notation.
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And for the third time, I quote "Clause Details: Lists 19 teams he can be traded to." That's a NTC, not a NMC, and I don't know why CapFriendly calls it a NMC. Maybe the NMC comes in later. If it was a pure NMC, there would be no need for the "M-NTC" notation.


yah he has a modified ntc and a nmc. i don't care about the m-ntc, it's the nmc thats the issue. avs cant waive him or expose him in the expansion draft.
24 janv. 2021 à 16 h 20
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yah he has a modified ntc and a nmc. i don't care about the m-ntc, it's the nmc thats the issue. avs cant waive him or expose him in the expansion draft.


You may not care about the M-NTC, but it's there for a reason. Conversely, I don't understand why the NMC is there if Johnson has a M-NTC (maybe it only applies to waivers), so it's still a mystery. I don't think either one of us is a sufficient authority on this issue.
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You may not care about the M-NTC, but it's there for a reason. Conversely, I don't understand why the NMC is there if Johnson has a M-NTC (maybe it only applies to waivers), so it's still a mystery. I don't think either one of us is a sufficient authority on this issue.


he can't be waived or exposed for the expansion draft (unless he consents) and can only be traded to a select list of teams.
25 janv. 2021 à 0 h 14
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You may not care about the M-NTC, but it's there for a reason. Conversely, I don't understand why the NMC is there if Johnson has a M-NTC (maybe it only applies to waivers), so it's still a mystery. I don't think either one of us is a sufficient authority on this issue.


The NMC on the NTC means he can't be sent down to the minors or be exposed in the expansion draft.

That's why I consider his contract significantly inferior to Stralman's.
 
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