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Lucic

Créé par: Habsfan14
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 21 janv. 2021
Publié: 21 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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MTL
  1. Lucic, Milan (2 500 000 $ retained)
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Weal, Jordan
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $72 391 309 $0 $3 137 500 $9 108 691 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 6
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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735 000 $735 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
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771 666 $771 666 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
DD
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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21 janv. 2021 à 23 h 36
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Byron is still a pretty decent player and he fits our team playstyle better than the giga washed up milan lucic
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21 janv. 2021 à 23 h 37
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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin
Byron is still a pretty decent player and he fits our team playstyle better than the giga washed up milan lucic


just thought we needed more penalties
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21 janv. 2021 à 23 h 38
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Byron > Lucic, even with that retention.
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21 janv. 2021 à 23 h 39
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Byron > Lucic, even with that retention.


we need more penatlies thats why
21 janv. 2021 à 23 h 40
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just thought we needed more penalties


Then we should get Lucic since our pk is so freaking good!!
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21 janv. 2021 à 23 h 40
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Uh Flames need that hard hitting. We only have him and MAYBE Bennett if he is out of the box
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22 janv. 2021 à 0 h 0
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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin
Byron is still a pretty decent player and he fits our team playstyle better than the giga washed up milan lucic


Lucic is not worth his current contract (just like Byron isn't) but Flames definitely are not retaining on Lucic to get another overpaid 4th liner
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22 janv. 2021 à 0 h 14
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Lucic is not worth his current contract (just like Byron isn't) but Flames definitely are not retaining on Lucic to get another overpaid 4th liner


Swapping 4th liners?
22 janv. 2021 à 0 h 17
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While I like Byron, with that kind of retention $ I'm fine just holding Lucic at $5.25 rather than Byron at 3.4 + Lucic's 2.5M. Lucic seems to fill some sort of role on the fourth line and I'm not sure if there's a good spot for Byron.
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22 janv. 2021 à 0 h 19
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Swapping 4th liners?


Oh my bad is Byron something more than an overpaid bottom 6 PKer?
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22 janv. 2021 à 9 h 45
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Oh my bad is Byron something more than an overpaid bottom 6 PKer?


Yes
22 janv. 2021 à 12 h 1
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Yes


What am I missing?
22 janv. 2021 à 12 h 3
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What am I missing?


That his advanced analytics say he's better than just an overpaid bottom 6pker. He plays 14 minutes a night and his analytics say he should play more. He's a 4th liner because Montreal has so much depth.
22 janv. 2021 à 12 h 27
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
That his advanced analytics say he's better than just an overpaid bottom 6pker. He plays 14 minutes a night and his analytics say he should play more. He's a 4th liner because Montreal has so much depth.


Can I not make a similar argument for Lucic? Just an enforcer instead of a PKer.
22 janv. 2021 à 12 h 38
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Can I not make a similar argument for Lucic? Just an enforcer instead of a PKer.


except his advanced stats show he shouldn't be in the NHL
22 janv. 2021 à 12 h 39
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except his advanced stats show he shouldn't be in the NHL


But he had better advanced stats than Byron last year, you are contradicting yourself
22 janv. 2021 à 12 h 43
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
But he had better advanced stats than Byron last year, you are contradicting yourself


What stats did he have that were better?
22 janv. 2021 à 12 h 52
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What stats did he have that were better?


Lucic was better defensively at EV
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He also had a better GAR and WAR
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Which ones did you look at?
22 janv. 2021 à 12 h 57
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Lucic was better defensively at EV
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He also had a better GAR and WAR
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Which ones did you look at?


Those are actually better than what I was expecting but you also have to remember that Byron played most of the season with an injury (hence the 29 games played) and it turns out Lucic was actually the better player last year so you've bested me.
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22 janv. 2021 à 13 h 5
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Those are actually better than what I was expecting but you also have to remember that Byron played most of the season with an injury (hence the 29 games played) and it turns out Lucic was actually the better player last year so you've bested me.


I'm aware Byron was injured, my original point is both players are overpaid for what they actually do and both players are on long term deals. Calgary would have no interest in essentially paying Byron 5.9M just to move out half of an expensive contract for a player who still had a positive on-ice impact. Yes Lucic's contract sucks, but as a free agent he would probably have been signed fairly quickly to a deal similar to Ryan Reaves' in Vegas
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