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Rank these divisional young guns lines

Créé par: Cdn_bacon
Équipe: 2020-21 Équipe personnalisée
Date de création initiale: 20 janv. 2021
Publié: 20 janv. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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West
North
Central
East
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
121 $10 761 666 $0 $14 117 500 $-10 761 665 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance1 750 000 $$2M)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
897 500 $897 500 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but

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20 janv. 2021 à 20 h 37
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Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
@Cdn_bacon whos the new Vegas Gm?


Jai
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20 janv. 2021 à 20 h 40
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He better not trade Lankinen
20 janv. 2021 à 20 h 41
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I mean cmon Laf is clear cut better at the moment... his coach is just a moron


His play hasn’t impressed me yet but Quinn has a history of giving rookies few minutes.
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21 janv. 2021 à 15 h 42
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He better not trade Lankinen


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21 janv. 2021 à 16 h 8
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Yamamoto and Kaprizov elite


Quoting: mhockey91
Kap might be a surprise, but no way is Yamamoto elite


Quoting: Cdn_bacon
Yamamoto has 1st line potential, he's already a 2nd liner for sure. Elite is probably out of reach.


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It was more of an exaggeration because he’s arguably the best of the bunch right now


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Best of the bunch? He’s arguably one of the lowest ranked guys


I'm not sure what definition you guys use for "elite", but it's worth noting that since he broke into the league fulltime December 31, 2019, Yamamoto is tied for 6th in the league in 5v5 scoring with Patrick Kane. If that's not "elite" I don't know what is.

http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20202021&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=S&loc=B&toi=250&gpfilt=gpdate&fd=2019-12-31&td=2021-01-21&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL
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21 janv. 2021 à 16 h 19
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I'm not sure what definition you guys use for "elite", but it's worth noting that since he broke into the league fulltime December 31, 2019, Yamamoto is tied for 6th in the league in 5v5 scoring with Patrick Kane. If that's not "elite" I don't know what is.

http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20202021&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=S&loc=B&toi=250&gpfilt=gpdate&fd=2019-12-31&td=2021-01-21&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL


A lot of people said that we shouldn't trust his sky-high scoring rates from last year (3.16 P/60, 1st on the team), but he's actually stepped that up through the first 5 games this season, posting 3.60 P/60, good for #1 on the team. That's impressive - a supposedly complimentary winger outscoring his superstar center. Frankly I'm surprised, I starting to think he's better than I (and many others) have given him credit for.
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21 janv. 2021 à 16 h 32
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I'm not sure what definition you guys use for "elite", but it's worth noting that since he broke into the league fulltime December 31, 2019, Yamamoto is tied for 6th in the league in 5v5 scoring with Patrick Kane. If that's not "elite" I don't know what is.

http://naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20202021&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=S&loc=B&toi=250&gpfilt=gpdate&fd=2019-12-31&td=2021-01-21&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL


Look at his numbers in the AHL prior to get called up. He’s carried by Drai. He’s no elite player. He’s a fine complementary player
21 janv. 2021 à 17 h 7
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Look at his numbers in the AHL prior to get called up. He’s carried by Drai. He’s no elite player. He’s a fine complementary player

It's illogical to say Yamamoto is being "carried by Draisaitl" when he's actually outscoring Draisaitl.

2019-20 (from Dec 31 only)
KY: 3.16 P/60
LD: 3.01 P/60

2020-21
KY: 3.60 P/60
LD: 2.71 P/60

Like most elite players, they benefit from playing with each other.
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21 janv. 2021 à 17 h 10
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It's illogical to say Yamamoto is being "carried by Draisaitl" when he's actually outscoring Draisaitl.

2019-20 (from Dec 31 only)
KY: 3.16 P/60
LD: 3.01 P/60

2020-21
KY: 3.60 P/60
LD: 2.71 P/60

Like most elite players, they benefit from playing with each other.


You’re right that elite players feed off each other, but Yams definitely hasn’t proven to be elite. Sheary lead the league in 5v5 P/60 one season and no one was running around claiming he was elite. Let’s see how Yams does over a longer sample size
21 janv. 2021 à 17 h 18
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Look at his numbers in the AHL prior to get called up. He’s carried by Drai. He’s no elite player. He’s a fine complementary player


Draisaitl was not good in the AHL either, should we discount his back to back 100+ seasons just because of that?
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21 janv. 2021 à 17 h 25
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You’re right that elite players feed off each other, but Yams definitely hasn’t proven to be elite. Sheary lead the league in 5v5 P/60 one season and no one was running around claiming he was elite. Let’s see how Yams does over a longer sample size


I didn't say he was as I'm not sure the definition of the word. I simply pointed out that he's getting elite results and that he's full value for them. This isn't a guy riding someone else's coattails.

How long does a guy have to post elite results for you to call him elite? Do you consider Kaprizov elite? He has 4 NHL games under his belt. What about Lafreniere? 3 NHL games and zero points. Is Jack Hughes elite? Crap results in his 1st year, only 3 games this year with elite results. How about Suzuki? Terrible scoring rates at 5v5, his totals are driven by being gifted PP time, which Yamamoto isn't. Glass? 41 NHL games at below-replacement level scoring.

I bet you think a few of these guys are elite, and they haven't even earned it. Why the double standard?
21 janv. 2021 à 17 h 27
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I didn't say he was as I'm not sure the definition of the word. I simply pointed out that he's getting elite results and that he's full value for them. This isn't a guy riding someone else's coattails.

How long does a guy have to post elite results for you to call him elite? Do you consider Kaprizov elite? He has 4 NHL games under his belt. What about Lafreniere? 3 NHL games and zero points. Is Jack Hughes elite? Crap results in his 1st year, only 3 games this year with elite results. How about Suzuki? Terrible scoring rates at 5v5, his totals are driven by being gifted PP time, which Yamamoto isn't. Glass? 41 NHL games at below-replacement level scoring.

I bet you think a few of these guys are elite, and they haven't even earned it. Why the double standard?



I don’t consider any of those guys elite yet. I think some of them absolutely will be, but not yet. There is no double standard.
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21 janv. 2021 à 17 h 27
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Draisaitl was not good in the AHL either, should we discount his back to back 100+ seasons just because of that?


This isn’t even relevant. He played 6 games in the AHL and clearly proved he’s one of the best players in the NHL.
 
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