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Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 19 janv. 2021
Publié: 19 janv. 2021
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19 janv. 2021 à 21 h 16
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too much from the avs.
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19 janv. 2021 à 21 h 27
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too much from the avs.


That's a tad bit too much overpay
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19 janv. 2021 à 21 h 27
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too much from the avs.


Quoting: minionhypers
That's a tad bit too much overpay


If that’s an overpay Gibson is never being traded 😂😂😂
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19 janv. 2021 à 21 h 30
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There was a time I would have considered moving Byram in a trade like this. But not anymore.
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19 janv. 2021 à 21 h 32
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Quoting: Salzy
If that’s an overpay Gibson is never being traded 😂😂😂



I agree with you! People underrate him, probably because he’s on Anaheim.
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19 janv. 2021 à 21 h 38
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Massive overpay from the Avs.
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19 janv. 2021 à 21 h 45
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Quoting: TJTwolf
Massive overpay from the Avs.


That’s not even close to enough what are you talking about 😂
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19 janv. 2021 à 21 h 45
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just an awful move for the avs.

Lets stop this avs goalie nonsense that is being posted lately, last time I checked avs goalies have been good and its only game 2. Lets settle down
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19 janv. 2021 à 21 h 46
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Quoting: Salzy
That’s not even close to enough what are you talking about 😂


Exactly what I said, massive overpay.
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19 janv. 2021 à 21 h 47
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Quoting: TJTwolf
Exactly what I said, massive overpay.


A much worse goalie, two middle sixers (at best) a good prospect a nothing prospect and a 3rd is nothing close to fair let alone an overpay 😂
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19 janv. 2021 à 21 h 51
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Quoting: Salzy
A much worse goalie, two middle sixers (at best) a good prospect a nothing prospect and a 3rd is nothing close to fair let alone an overpay 😂


Your read of it, not mine. Massive overpay. Joe says no.
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19 janv. 2021 à 22 h 15
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If this is a so called “overpay” than Gibson won’t take one step outside of Anaheim lol
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19 janv. 2021 à 22 h 15
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Quoting: Salzy
A much worse goalie, two middle sixers (at best) a good prospect a nothing prospect and a 3rd is nothing close to fair let alone an overpay 😂


Almost identical goalie statistically. Marginal edge to Grubauer. Gibson advantage in age. Gibson much more expensive but tied up for longer. Add in two middle sixers as that is what they are, not 'at best', also bearing in mind Jost is still only 22, a STUD D prospect (former 4th overall pick...let's see.....who else was taken 4th overall Makar, Jones, Pietrangelo to name three), a former third round pick (so not a 'nothing prospect') and another third. Massive overpay. I'd give you at best Grubauer and Stienburg.

Gibson:
14/15 2.60 .914
15/16 2.07 .920
16/17 2.22 .924
17/18 2.43 .926
18/19 2.84 .917
19/20 3.00 .904
NHL Total 2.53 .918

Grubauer:
13/14 2.38 .925
15/16 2.32 .918
16/17 2.04 .926
17/18 2.35 .923
18/19 2.64 .917
19/20 2.63 .916
NHL Total 2.44 .920
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19 janv. 2021 à 22 h 19
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Quoting: Nhl_oilers
I agree with you! People underrate him, probably because he’s on Anaheim.


Looks like everyone is underrating Grubauer as well then (could have told you that anyway with the obsession with the Avalanche goalie situation on here) as statistically he's marginally better than Gibson!
19 janv. 2021 à 23 h 4
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Quoting: TJTwolf
Looks like everyone is underrating Grubauer as well then (could have told you that anyway with the obsession with the Avalanche goalie situation on here) as statistically he's marginally better than Gibson!


Better. Team.
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19 janv. 2021 à 23 h 6
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Better. Team.


The Avs were hardly a better team when he joined them, and stats run for a career.
19 janv. 2021 à 23 h 26
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Quoting: Salzy
That’s not even close to enough what are you talking about 😂


For better or for worse goalies seem to just not carry the value they should. While I agree in where I would value Gibson who imho is a top 4-5 goalie in the league signed at a fair to good contract through his prime, based on what goalies actually get in trade it's likely fair to more than you'd get.

But the market is dumb and I'm with you
19 janv. 2021 à 23 h 30
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Quoting: TJTwolf
Looks like everyone is underrating Grubauer as well then (could have told you that anyway with the obsession with the Avalanche goalie situation on here) as statistically he's marginally better than Gibson!


Grubauer is underrated but one big thing you are missing is he's never been a true starter. I don't think he's ever started 40 games let one 60
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20 janv. 2021 à 0 h 11
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Grubauer is underrated but one big thing you are missing is he's never been a true starter. I don't think he's ever started 40 games let one 60


That point I will give you, he's always tended to be in a tandem situation.
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20 janv. 2021 à 0 h 19
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That offer for Gibson is a joke. And anyone who thinks Grubauer is anywhere close to being in the same league as Gibson doesn't begin to understand hockey.
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20 janv. 2021 à 1 h 51
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Grubauer is underrated but one big thing you are missing is he's never been a true starter. I don't think he's ever started 40 games let one 60


Nobody is starting 60 anymore unless there are a ton of injuries or the team sucks. Gibson has done it once in his career ever.
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20 janv. 2021 à 7 h 13
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Nobody is starting 60 anymore unless there are a ton of injuries or the team sucks. Gibson has done it once in his career ever.


It happened 33 times in the last 3 full seasons
http://www.nhl.com/stats/goalies?aggregate=0&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20162017&seasonTo=20182019&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,60&sort=wins,savePct&page=0&pageSize=50

But the point stands even if one says 50 games
20 janv. 2021 à 11 h 7
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It happened 33 times in the last 3 full seasons
http://www.nhl.com/stats/goalies?aggregate=0&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20162017&seasonTo=20182019&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,60&sort=wins,savePct&page=0&pageSize=50

But the point stands even if one says 50 games


And not a one of them won a cup starting 60 in the season. Also of those 33 3 goalies Bob, Dubnyk and Jones represent 9 of those seasons, I don’t know about you but I’m not betting the farm on those 3. I understand where you are coming from but I think there is a fundamental philosophy change occurring with goal tending in the NHL.
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20 janv. 2021 à 13 h 26
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And not a one of them won a cup starting 60 in the season. Also of those 33 3 goalies Bob, Dubnyk and Jones represent 9 of those seasons, I don’t know about you but I’m not betting the farm on those 3. I understand where you are coming from but I think there is a fundamental philosophy change occurring with goal tending in the NHL.


Sure but go with 50 then. You're right that 60 was likely an exaggeration, but my point stands is he's never been a starter. To be honest I'm a big grubauer fan and think try to upgrade on him in most situations is just over tinkering because it's hard not to when you have such a good team and the playoffs are only once a year.

But it is true he has never really been a starter.

(The team in my opinion most guilty of this over tinkering because they can't accept that a good or even great team will sometimes just not win in the playoffs because only one team can in the end were the late 2000s capitals. They kept trying to overhaul that team when they didn't need to)
21 janv. 2021 à 9 h 30
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One more point. Only one of the two goalies has a cup ring!
 
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